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Plut0nian2
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posted June 15, 2015 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really need you to tell me your experiences with this one!!
Please also tell me if you are the Moon peron or the Saturn one.. how tight the orb is..
and how you felt this aspect

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posted June 15, 2015 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to worry. You could still marry this person. It all depends on what the rest of the chart says.

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posted June 16, 2015 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astra7
thank you
but all say this is a relly bad aspect.
And it's really tight under an orb

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posted June 16, 2015 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the DW with my ex-wife... And her Saturn completes a grand cross for me. Orb <2° each way. There are other parts to our synastry as well, of course...

It's super glue. We've been married, divorced, got back together for 5 years, broke up for 10, back together for 7, broke up... I have said in the past, she's been the best ex a man could want... After all that over 30+ years, we're still friends. No... we're still family, just not romantically any more.

Moon opposite Saturn bruises easily (emotionally). You "bump" into each others feelings without meaning to. But it teaches you how to not bruise each other eventually. You learn how to make it safe for the other to let their feelings out. That's part of the glue.

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posted June 16, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I concur on SATURN.

I've got SATURN conjunct MOON (1º) with a man whom the universe has clearly said, 'get used to it; you've got things to do, and you'll be in your lives forever in some way.'

Very complicated. Damned frustrating at times.

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I have this aspect with my mother along with Saturn opposite Venus.

She Saturn, I'm Moon and Venus.

We argue incessantly, but it's based off of insecurity.

But our moons are also in opposition by sign so this wilk probably modify my experience with the Saturn aspects.

Even with our constant bickering and disagreements, I wouldn't trade her for the world.

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posted June 16, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice!!

Gemini Blues very interesting

I've read about the on-off thing you are talking about.

How did you feel As the Moon person?


I am the Saturn person and I am interested in knowing how the Moon person is feeling

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posted June 16, 2015 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
astra7
thank you
but all say this is a relly bad aspect.
And it's really tight under an orb


I had Saturn-Venus DW hard aspects and we got married. We are now divorced but sweet.

Yes, it's super glue. lol
My ex-husband says, he'd marry again. How sweet of him!

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posted June 16, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
How did you feel As the Moon person?

I am the Saturn person and I am interested in knowing how the Moon person is feeling


Like I go from being a source of fascination to a burden. He's at once appreciative and then absolutely cruel. I then have to institute distance, to which he responds with sarcasm and biting wit. He'd never admit to how much it hurts him, so he lashes out instead.

Granted, it's a conjunction -- and in Scorpio. So, the opposition might offer a bit of breathing room.

I swear, it's the classic game of 'who can care less'.

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posted June 16, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've no clue why, but this song, 'Tennis Court' by Lorde (but only covered by The Kite String Tangle, has always reminded me of that complicated, troublesome facet of our relationship.

Must be the 'baby, be the class clown; I'll be the beauty queen in tears. It's a new art form: showing people how little we care. We're so happy; even when we're smiling out of fear.' Not to mention:

I fall apart with all my heart, and you can watch from your window ...

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posted June 16, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Nice!!

Gemini Blues very interesting

I've read about the on-off thing you are talking about.

How did you feel As the Moon person?


I am the Saturn person and I am interested in knowing how the Moon person is feeling


I'm not entirely sure I can answer. We were both the moon, we were both Saturn.

I think the moon feels a little unsure, insecure at times, perhaps looking for approval. Saturn wants to give foundation, stability, but sometimes comes off critical.

Here, maybe this will help

Me: Where would you like to eat?
Her: I don't care, you pick
Me: I pick "blah" (A place she likes)
Her: You don't like "blah"
Me: Yeah, but I'm hungry for "blah blah"
Later
Me: I know why you didn't pick tonight.
Her: Why?
Me: Because when you feel bad like you were tonight, you think you don't deserve to have what you want...

30+ years does give at least a little insight...

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posted June 17, 2015 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne

"Who cares less" game
Hhaha you really hit the spot..

But I do think that both do care and suffer when pretending they do not.
But I am a bit confused.
I have Saturn opposing his Moon in less than an orb and I also have Saturn square his Mars more than 3 orbs.

So I don't know where the " Who cares less" game is coming

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posted June 17, 2015 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Blues

I forgot you havd DW
The dialogue you wrote as an example seems too mature and calm.. Maybe the DW helpsyou both understanding each other better..

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posted June 17, 2015 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
30 years together will do that. Saturn romances have a way of becoming mature as well. Mars in your synastry might be kicking up more friction.

This might explain some too:

Her Chiron conjunct my Saturn, her Moon/Chiron/Venus T completed by my Saturn/Uranus/Mercury T for the Grand mutable cross, her Venus conjunct my aVx

That all said, remember the theme of Saturn. He's like that favorite teacher you hated as a kid but love as an adult. He made you learn. No shortcuts. Do the homework, and he'll make you smarter.

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posted June 17, 2015 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Aubyanne

"Who cares less" game
Hhaha you really hit the spot..

But I do think that both do care and suffer when pretending they do not.
But I am a bit confused.
I have Saturn opposing his Moon in less than an orb and I also have Saturn square his Mars more than 3 orbs.

So I don't know where the " Who cares less" game is coming


Good point. We have SATURN conjunct MARS, too. I'm MARS. ... Yaaaay. :: waving pennant sarcastically ::

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posted June 18, 2015 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne

Woww you are the best help
You are Moon and Mars like the guy I am interested in. So when he said I am cruel to him.. he meant it.. I thought he was kind of joking and teasing me :P
Sometimes I feel like he felt critised without any reason.. :/

If you want tell me.more how you feel as the Moon & Mars in aspect to his Saturn

Gemini Blues

I am not that good in synastries.. K find them complicated..
But thank you for your help.
Saturn opposite Moon DW was an on-off thing and like a glue for you too..

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posted June 18, 2015 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
30 years together will do that. Saturn romances have a way of becoming mature as well. Mars in your synastry might be kicking up more friction.

This might explain some too:

Her Chiron conjunct my Saturn, her Moon/Chiron/Venus T completed by my Saturn/Uranus/Mercury T for the Grand mutable cross, her Venus conjunct my aVx

That all said, remember the theme of Saturn. He's like that favorite teacher you hated as a kid but love as an adult. He made you learn. No shortcuts. Do the homework, and he'll make you smarter.


BINGO! Saturn is the task master and he makes you learn. Remember the movie, "License to Wed "Robin Williams" he was playing Saturn. So, when he is teaching learn the lessons and you will get the rewards later!

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posted September 17, 2018 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumpy bumpy.. any takers?

Does Saturn stick by Moon? How does it feel? Any long term happy and functioning success?

Or is it just very rough?

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posted September 17, 2018 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Bumpy bumpy.. any takers?

Does Saturn stick by Moon? How does it feel? Any long term happy and functioning success?

Or is it just very rough?


I'm sure there will be long term relationships with any aspect actually. It depends on each person's natal chart.
In my case it didn't work (although it's never just one's aspect "fault") because as the Saturn person I found him immature, actually it feels like he was too happy go lucky for my liking it kind of made him look silly in my eyes. In the beginning he was more serious although even at some point I kind of felt it and it's like it was bothering me but not to a point I couldn't stand it. It is like the more I got to know him the more it bothered me. I can assure you it is due to this aspect 100%.

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posted September 17, 2018 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been the moon. The Saturn person felt quite critical at times, measuring measuring measuring like a wooden ruler, though I could feel they felt tremendous amount of responsibility towards me. Perhaps they were a bit crushed by the sense of responsibility and couldn't always process this right

Would love to hear from more Saturns in this position. Was it like you belted brutes juuuust couldn't help but criticize?

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posted September 17, 2018 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha..

Yes, they say that, it's a real issue when it is the Moon because there is too much of a gap to bridge.

The Moon is supposed to be random, unstructured and intuitive. Saturn is the opposite.

And also that the Moon is not equipped in it's raw nature to find compromise with Saturn. In contrast, the Sun can can stand up and hold it's ground with Saturn. So can Mars.. but the Moon is too raw and unstructured to find that ground to support itself.

Additionally why they are at odds, is that it cannot cope well because (like Venus) it's nature is to bond. But Saturn's nature is to stand alone.

Off topic, but I am eager to take these singled-out aspects up a level to where they are in a combined aspect. What happens if a difficult aspect like this is entwined with other aspects? For example, say that Moon is part of an opposition or square with the other person's natal chart? Like, sitting in a square or opposition between Saturn and Mars (or anything else)? In this manner the Moon would be conjunct one end of that person's natal aspect and challenged by the other end.

I suppose this would add a pulling/pushing hot/cold element to the relationship.

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posted September 18, 2018 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. so in this case (I mean with this guy) he was the only one that I had my natal Saturn opposite his Moon and square his Mars at the same time. I had my natal Saturn square Mars with others a few times and all it did was blocking sex. It is the first time I found someone being silly, it was a turn off for me (the fact that his Moon was in Leo was making this much worse because of the sign).
It was an on off communication from his side, he told me a few times that he feels like I didn't want him and that I am seeing people as numbers because I was logically thinking. Even though I was the one who would always reply to him and be the stable one, I asked him how the hell he feels like that when to me it seems like I am the one interested the most, he told me that he didn't know himself why he was feeling like that but he felt I am cold towards him which caught me by surprise since I was being too sweet and I never critisized him tbh ecause I just feel that when someone is one way you won't be able to change it because it is who they are as you aren't able to change yourself and stop being bothered by it. I hate puting any kind of pressure on others (Uranus) plus my Saturn is in Aqua so it may explain my attitude.
At some point when I lost interest he told me about a girl he liked etc (we had an on off communication which means we would talk for a week and then we wouldn't for a month, it started to become more and more difficult and I found myself wanting less and less to talk with him) and I was like ok she seems nice (I indeed liked her) so be careful I told him and treat her well, but he lied to me in order to make me jealous and see myreaction which he never told me. (I learned it completely radomly, she was his cousin). I mean isn't that stupid? lol he could tell me that he was joking or smth.

Anyway I had the exact same synastry aspects (including Mars square Saturn) with a few others (the only exception being Moon-Saturn) because everyone I liked was born same year same month with one or two days difference. I never had this on off problem and never found them immature like him (they all have Venus in Capricorn conjuct Saturn btw)
Saturn opposite Moon and square Mars had nothing to do with each other though. They manifested like two different aspects tbh.

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posted September 18, 2018 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crystal_clear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had it with one person, I was Saturn, he was Moon.

His Moon in Taurus was very sweet but extremely shy and reserved. I felt a lot of sympathy for him and I really wanted to just hold him close. Of course he was too shy for my liking.

We never developed anything deeper but I still adore him with all my heart.

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posted September 18, 2018 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never had a pure moon/saturn aspect with someone, there was always other planets also involved
first there was this guy who had sun conjunct jupiter and saturn in virgo and this conjunction opposed my moon in pisces...we had a lot of fun and he was a bit older than me too and if there were times that he acted more mature, I always liked and appreciated that

* why I broke up with him: his venus which was on my AC was square his mars in scorpio...I don't like mars in scorpio...it was from my experience with this guy that I learned that about myself


now there is this Aries sun guy..his moon is on my AC and jupiter, and opposite my saturn in Aqua...we have fun together probably because of the jupiter influence (my sun is also sextile his jupiter)...but he has expressed that I act cold toward him!...I was not surprised because I mostly see myself as a cold person...detached and escapist in relationships (Aqa DC and pisces moon)...I can come off cruel too, with sun opposite pluto (which he also has), and moon trine and mars trine pluto...he himself has moon square pluto... I'm not sure yet how exactly I feel about him!...if his moon wasn't on my AC/jupiter I would most probably not even be friends with him because we can get too intense around each other with sun opposite pluto in composite!...his sun/NN is also conjunct my mercury and MC!

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