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Topic: Conjunctions on conjunctions in synastry
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polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Washington, DC Registered: Feb 2015
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posted June 24, 2015 06:24 AM
Would somebody who has a Sun conjunct Pluto natally feel it when someone else's Pluto conjuncts their Sun-Pluto conjunction? I guess this question can apply to any conjunction on conjunction. If you're totally confused, here's a pretty picture to help explain my ramblings: IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 24, 2015 07:22 AM
If the orbs are under 3 degrees I can feel it almost as if it's a new energy being added to the mix. & I have a Scorpio stellium as well.The Pluto person always has the upper hand in my experience. Pluto controls the relationship because Pluto has the power. I've always been the Sun with Sun-Pluto aspects and once Pluto. When I was Pluto, I felt the intensity from my end too, but me and that particular guy had a lot of Taurus-Scorpio oppositios all 4 degrees or less, applying so the intensity was overpowered by all those other aspects. The Pluto person in the synastry always had the opportunity to manipulate and control the Sun person. If you do things that affect the Sun person's ego, you gajn control. But this is speaking strictly from my own experience. IP: Logged |
Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 400 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 24, 2015 08:39 AM
I think it depends on other factors, like house placements and the overall natal placements of both people. Pluto is slow moving so the Sun/Pluto person has that with anyone close to their age. I don't think that just Pluto on that conjunction is going to be felt much by the Sun/Pluto person, but the other person will probably feel the Sun/Pluto on their Pluto very powerfully. I see that there are other aspects to that conjunction, so those will factor in too.That being said...I have Moon conjunct Pluto by 1 degree in the 8th house, plus I'm a Scorpio Sun with an 8th house stellium. I am feeling obsessed with a guy that has his Pluto right between my Moon and Pluto. I have this conjunction with a lot of people my age, although in this case the orb is very close. However, he also has a Scorpio Moon conjunct my Sun, plus we have Venus square Mars double whammy, and Sun trine Mars double whammy, to name a few. Those other attraction aspects are intensifying the Pluto conjunction, which I probably wouldn't even feel otherwise. He would feel it though, because my Moon 0 degrees on his Pluto is not an energy that he would be used to having with very many people. As a Moon/Pluto person with a lot of Scorpio and 8th house in my chart, I've attracted a lot of obsessed people in my age group. I rarely feel the same unless there are other factors involved, because it's an energy I'm used to having with a lot of people. In your case, the Scorpio Sun, Pluto, and Venus person will have a tendency to get very possessive and intense in relationships. I think that they will have the upper hand and the control in that situation because it's in their natal, but if they feel that power slipping it might bring out their crazy side to maintain control. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3942 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 24, 2015 02:57 PM
My first monster had his PLUTO 0º00 conjunct my SUN. I have SUN conjunct PLUTO (2º) natally.IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Washington, DC Registered: Feb 2015
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posted June 24, 2015 05:37 PM
So it seems situational?? I know that I have a Sun, Mercury, and Mars trine Pluto pretty closely in my own chart. And that same stellium usually trines other people's Pluto who I date. But I don't think I really feel that. I wonder if a conjunction is felt differently though, because conjunctions are usually stronger than trines?IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3942 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 25, 2015 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: So it seems situational?? I know that I have a Sun, Mercury, and Mars trine Pluto pretty closely in my own chart. And that same stellium usually trines other people's Pluto who I date. But I don't think I really feel that. I wonder if a conjunction is felt differently though, because conjunctions are usually stronger than trines?
I'd say that he's had one of the biggest impacts upon my life, period. Being a natal PLUTO-SUN, I don't get affected much by PLUTO hits to it. Oddly, another PLUTO conjunct SUN in tight orb can feel like an absolute soul-sibling -- and that's not always a good thing, with PLUTO involved. I'm always a bit blown away by the fact it's a 0º00 conjunction. And, indeed, this man was like being hit by a truck. Or, as a clever writer once said, it 'was like having a loaded pistol in one's mouth and liking the taste of metal.' That about nailed the sense of it. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2106 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 26, 2015 08:02 AM
I have sun square Pluto natally and the people whose Pluto square my sun don't affect me much. I'm a 7th Pluto so maybe that's why. I'm very quick to read between the line and I have sun-Saturn conjunction so I don't put up with their games. I met a person whom I had sun square Pluto DW and it definitely felt like I've met my own self in him. He doesn't play games either. So I don't think the whole having the upper hand works in this case. If a person with the conjunction natally is very in tune with the energy, it's they are not gonna feel too manipulated imo IP: Logged |
davysong Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Shanghai,Shanghai,China Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 08, 2015 02:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: I have sun square Pluto natally and the people whose Pluto square my sun don't affect me much. I'm a 7th Pluto so maybe that's why. I'm very quick to read between the line and I have sun-Saturn conjunction so I don't put up with their games. I met a person whom I had sun square Pluto DW and it definitely felt like I've met my own self in him. He doesn't play games either. So I don't think the whole having the upper hand works in this case. If a person with the conjunction natally is very in tune with the energy, it's they are not gonna feel too manipulated imo
I completely agree with you dear. I,myself have natally a stellium of Pluto,Venus and Mercury in Scorpio in 2nd House,plus all three all conjunct to each other. I had an horrible relationship with a guy,his Pluto conjunct to my Venus,and opposed my Mercury. At first,i felt his power and felt manipulated,then I recognized his power into myself. Lucky me,I was ready astrology during dating him,so I understood a lot about Pluto power. Since I've already got it myself,after a while,it felt natural,I could easily read him,wound him with my words and actions and "control" the situation. Can you believe that? Him telling me that he was afraid of me? And even after a year of a bad break-up,despite his huge (misplaced) ego,he can't refrain himself from texting me on social medias. LOL I believe that if you have it natally already,as long as you know and understand yourself,and know how to use it (for good and for evil,let's be honest here) you won't feel it like a burden or anything scary for that matter,it'll be like a mirror. I had other males friend Pluto conjunct to my Venus and my Mercury,but when I look at the relationship we are having,I am the one with more impact on them and the upper hand,than the opposite! If I disappear for a while,focus on my life and my goals,they look for me everywhere,then accuse me of abandoning them (some are even scorpios,or scorpio rising or have 8th house planets). So funny! I am a Sun,Mars and Rising Libra girl. LOL
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