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BeTrue77
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posted July 18, 2015 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that I have met my perfect match, in astrological terms. He is a coworker, who was hired to work at my company in April 2014, and we hit it off immediately and have become close friends. Alas, it appears that that is all that we will ever be since he is gay and is in a long-term relationship with another man, and I am a woman who is 14 years his senior. Regardless, there is a strong mutual emotional bond of some kind between us, and (on my part) sexual attraction. At a minimum, I know that he is a soulmate and a past-life connection of some kind.

Because he told me his birthdate awhile ago, I have known that our synastry was strong. Last week, I finally got up the nerve to ask him his birth time and place (kind of a weird question to ask a coworker, ha ha), and now that I know his ascendant, it is official that this is by far the best chemistry that I have ever experienced, and probably will ever experience in this particular lifetime. Sigh.

Even though it is ironic and bittersweet that I share this great synastry with someone who is not available for a romantic relationship with me, I am still enjoying the chemistry and the friendship for what it is (of course, I wish circumstances were different, but I accept reality).

I am going to post our synastry chart in another post, in case anyone has any thoughts, words of comfort, validation, guidance, etc. for me about how to approach this situation.

In the meantime, here is a list of some of the major aspects between our charts:

Less than one degree orb:

My Sun trine his Sun
My Sun square his Moon
My Descendant conjunct his Moon
My Mars opposite his Mars
My Venus opposite his Mars (= 1 degree orb)
My Moon opposite his Sun/Moon midpoint
My Moon conjunct his N Node
My Neptune conjunct his S Node
My Neptune conjunct his Sun/Moon midpoint
My Chiron opposite his Venus
My Moon Square his Mercury
My Saturn opposite his Saturn

Less than 2 degrees orb:

His Uranus opposite my Venus
My Ceres opposite his Venus

Less than 3 degrees orb:

My Venus trine his Venus
My Uranus conjunct his Venus
(the rulers of our descendants conjunct)
His Chiron conjunct my Venus
His Sun trine my Saturn
My Sun opposite his Saturn

Approx. 4 degree orb:

My Mars trine his Venus

House Overlays:

-- My Sun, Moon, Saturn, and Mercury in his 7th House
-- My Venus and Mars in his 8th House
-- His Moon conjunct my Descendant in 7th

Thanks in advance for any comments anyone has to offer. I will try to post the chart in a few minutes.

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BeTrue77
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posted July 18, 2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is our chart. I am the Taurus, and he is the Virgo.

Is the Universe torturing me, or what? :-)

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 19, 2015 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Mars Uranus opp your Mars/Venus shows the different orientation in this case But it's a well connected synastry, too bad he is "taken" Strong friendship aspects.

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starmoon
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posted July 19, 2015 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the synastry is very good. most people, at least on these forums, tend to equate great synastry with romance/attraction, but it can also lead - as in your case - to a wonderful friendship, working relationship, sibling/parent relationship, etc. and you will find that type of synastry again - it's not as rare as you think to come upon great charts with people in our lives. it's part of the reason we gravitate towards certain individuals.

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted July 19, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My condolences. His Chiron conjunct your Venus and Mars and your Chiron opposite his Venus speak for themselves.

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BeTrue77
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posted July 19, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your insightful responses, LeeLoo, starmoon, and Aunt Anomalia! It really helps to talk about this situation and to get feedback from people who understand astrology.

LeeLoo, I did not realize that our incongruent genders/orientations actually showed up in the synastry. That is very interesting!

Starmoon, thanks for the reassurance. Yes, one of my fears is that this is a very rare, "once-in-a-lifetime" synastry that I will not be able to find again. But, I do realize that it is up to the Universe, and all things are possible.

Aunt Anomalia, thank you for your sympathy and understanding! Believe it or not, when I met this particular guy, I was already in the throes of a connection with another guy where we had Venus conjunct Chiron double whammy as well as lots of other close aspects. I thought that that particular soul connection would be the best that I would ever encounter, when along came this other one. I am still in touch with Soul Connection (SC) #1, but he moved out of the country before the romance ever materialized. SC #1 caused a lot of pain, then along came SC #2 (my coworker) and his energy actually helped to heal my heartbreak from SC #1, without inflicting similar pain. So, I am very grateful to him for that (perhaps one day I will have the opportunity to share that information with him). But I hope that I am done with chiron/venus for this lifetime, as it has been brutal, ha ha!

Yes, I will continue to appreciate the friendship and the loving energy between us for what they are. In a way, the orientation issue makes it easier to detach because it leaves no room for me to hope for a romance in the future. My romantic karma in this lifetime has been rough and heartbreaking, but also very useful for accelerating my spiritual path. Lots of strong connections with unavailable men. But, on the positive side, I do have lots of love in my life in other forms, and I am an autonomous person who enjoys my own company and living alone (with pets).

Thanks again!

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astra7
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posted July 21, 2015 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just found out that it's common for gay guys to have fake 'girlfriend/wife'. So you could be one without sex of course.
I think even gay guys appreciate female company especially they can exchange make-up tips etc. lol

Amazing synastry indeed!

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Lotis White
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posted July 21, 2015 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't worry that you'll never find synastry that good again. Excellent synastry is not as uncommon as you think... There are literally thousands of different ways a person could connect with your chart in a positive way. In every single year within a 10 year radius of your birthday I bet you could find at least 3 or 4 'excellent' matches.

Also, the synastry with this guy is not bad, but I wouldn't say it's the best I've ever seen. You activate his 7th and 8th houses of partnership and intimacy, but don't really touch his 5th house of romance. From your side he does active you 5th and 7th houses, but his Virgo Sun and Mercury are not really apart of your attraction pattern. Right now you are enamored with his Aquarius Moon, Sag Mars/Uranus/Neptune, and Libra Venus/Pluto. But if you were with him eventually you'd see his is not completely your type.

Another point I'd like to make... I'm one of those who believes that great synastry is made of a mixture of soft and hard aspects. Only there are some hard aspects that are very difficult to handle over long periods of time. Saturn opp Saturn can be a problem because your orientations towards responsibility contradict each other, and with both Saturns in fixed signs this could lead to long stand offs where neither wishes to compromise their practical priorities. Another hard aspect which can be difficult is Mars opp Mars conj Uranus. By itself Mars opp Mars might be manageable, but with Uranus on his end as part of it things could get very volatile, and he might have a tendency to rebel against your wishes. Your Venus is also part of this opposition, and that is why you're attracted, because on a surface level Venus/Mars/Uranus combos provide great chemistry... Up close and personal though, clashes would become much more evident with that electrified Mars/Mars/Uranus combo. As Leeloo pointed out I can see how this aspect literally shows your opposite orientations, you'll passionately want opposite things.

Okay, so there are positive things about this synastry too. His Venus in Libra trine your Venus/Mars in Gemini is very nice, and would help clashes to be mitigated with diplomacy and basic liking. It probably also shows again why you are attracted, and why he likes you in general. But underneath the veneer of politeness the clashes are still there. When the polite surface is ripped away from the relationship things could get angry and volatile.

I did focus a tad more on the negative side in this reading, but only to point out that this synastry is not perfect, nor is he the only man that you could feel this way about. I bet you it's possible to find a better match somewhere, somehow. I wish you the best in finding the right guy for you.

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BeTrue77
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posted July 21, 2015 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that creative perspective, astra7. Yeah, sometimes the way we interact does feel as though we are boyfriend/girlfriend, and a stranger did once mistake us for being a couple. In fact, the other day, I was standing next to him and his boyfriend at Happy Hour, when he introduced his boyfriend to our colleague as his "better . . . [quick glance at me] . . .third." (perhaps I am reading too much into this off-hand joke, but it does kind of seem to fit the suggestion you made about being a platonic girlfriend of sorts). But I do appreciate your point that we can still be special to each other in some way without actually pursuing a sexual relationship.

And thank you so much for your thorough, thoughtful analysis, Lotis White! I appreciate you reminding me about the downside of some of our aspects.
My natal Moon/Neptune opposition gets me into trouble sometimes with romantic fantasy and delusion, so it is good to be reminded of reality. Even if he were straight and single, our relationship would still not be perfect (age difference, among other things).

Uranus and Saturn are definitely spoilers here, as you pointed out, and I would have to add Chiron to the mix as well. Yes, I have already had glimpses of the volatile, rebellious dynamic that you mentioned. But above all else, there is just so much intense energy and electricity between us, it can certainly be difficult to handle for any length of time. So, perhaps that is another downside of a synastry with too many close aspects (esp. where certain planets are involved) -- it can be overstimulating to be around each other, sometimes to the point of exhaustion. I can tell that the energetic connection between us really has him feeling very confused and bewildered sometimes as well.

But I have to admit that I am surprised that you stated that his Virgo Sun is not a part of my attraction pattern because I adore Virgos! Virgo Suns and Moons seem to consistently magnetize me more often than any other placement! Huh. I suppose you are referring to where Virgo falls in terms of my house placements.

I also recently realized that transiting Pluto in Cap is currently forming a Grand Trine with both of our natal Suns (mine at 15 degrees Taurus and his at 15 degrees Virgo), so perhaps Pluto is making our connection feel more potent right now, and hopefully the intensity will eventually subside once Pluto moves further along?

But I do hear what you are saying about the possibility of other men being more compatible with me astrologically speaking. That is good to know. Hopeless romantic that I am, I believe that we meet those whom we are destined to meet, and that Destiny is the ultimate matchmaker, so I am certainly open to meeting someone new. Thanks again!

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