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Topic: Gilgamesh and Aisha in Composite and Synastry
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 04:53 AM
http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/religion-and-spirituality-eternity-life-after -death/1891.aspx Gilgamesh (1812) and Aisha (3584) are linked to ancient stories about the quest for eternal life and immortality but if we apply it to synastry and composites what would this energy imply in this context? Could it represent that desire for eternal love that doesn't die, that unbreakable love that transcends time and space or the presence of that type of love in a relationship? Is it present in the synastries or composites of those loves that never die even though the relationship has ended? That unforgettable love that lives on in your soul and spirit that you cannot help but feel that one day you two will reunite in another life. Maybe is present in marriages were you have a strong feeling that you will love that person always no matter the outcome of the relationship. I have the following aspects with someone that fits the above criteria: 1. His Gilgamesh in Capricorn 28d37 His Kaali in Capricorn 27d09 My Sun in Virgo 28d08 My Alma in Taurus 28d11 Grand Trine between Gilgamesh-Kaali/my sun/my alma 2. My Aisha in Virgo at 7degrees My Priapus in Virgo at 7degrees His Ishtar in Virgo at 7degrees His Isis in Virgo at 7degrees His Osiris in Virgo at 2degrees My Pallas in Capricorn at 7 degrees My Juno in Taurus at 5degrees Grand Trine bt Aisha-Priapus-Ishtar-Isis-Osiris + Pallas + Juno 3. Composite Gilgamesh in the first opposes exact C-Chiron in the 7th and both square C-Amor/Harmonia by 2 degrees forming a tsquare (my natal venu-mars conjunction would turn this into a grand cross. Composite Gilgamesh in the first conjuncts my natal Psyche and his natal Sun exact, Composite Aisha conjuncts composite AC). 4. Davison Composite Kite: C-Adonis in Cancer 24d53 C-Innanen in Pisces 24d18 C-Siva in Scorpio 24d43 C-Stellium: AC in Taurus 26d39, C-Amor in Taurus 27d14, Kaali in Taurus 28d34, C-Chiron in Taurus 21d06 and C-Gilgamesh in Taurus 20d14 *Natally Gilgamesh oppposes exact my moon and both square my Southnode forming a tsquare which I feel illustrates a strong longing for that eternal love; my southnode conjuncts by 1 degree his Psyche. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 05:12 AM
With current relationship:He has Gilgamesh conjunct Amor at the apex of natal Yod inconjunct his psyche on one leg and his northnode on the other. My Northnode conjuncts his psyche and my Valentine and Vertex conjunct his Northnode: His Gilgamesh is in capricorn at 18d42 His Amor is in capricorn at 19d30 His Psyche is in gemini at 19d51 His Northnode is in Leo at 19d03 My Northnode is in Gemini at 19d41 My Valentine is in Leo at 18d44 My vertex is in Leo at 20d30 Between my father and mother I always felt my dad loves me unconditionally as I am:
His Gilgamesh in pisces 1d12 forms a grand trine with my Adonis and my Innanen. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20716 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 06:30 AM
oh a new one. BTW Gilgamesh is 1812 My Gilgamesh is 00 Cap conj. my Vesta. ( Aisha is a new one for me, on 27 Sagittarius, she is in good company there, as I have some other asteroids on 27 Sag. on that very degree, including Sekhmet, Circe, Reiki,
Needless to say, Gilgamesh and Aisha are loosely conjunct (3°22) They do seem to like being close to each other, have found that in many other charts as well, even if not technically conjunct, one of these paired ateroids, who move in step (like Santorini and Spirit, or Echnaton and Horus for example). AISHA is also conjunct my Sun on 25°56 Sag IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
AISHA is also conjunct my Sun on 25°56 Sag
Well any asteroid that conjuncts the Sun is suppose to be very powerful natally or in synastry. Aisha \a(i)-sha\ as a girls' name is pronounced ah-EE-shah, AY-shah. It is of Arabic origin, and the meaning of Aisha is "alive and well". Also possibly means "life" in Swahili. Aisha was a wife of the prophet Muhammad. The name is also linked to the moon goddess. Use in the English-speaking world is recent and many variants have been created from this name due to its pleasing sounds. Where does your Sun land and what does it rule? I know you have a thirst for knowledge specially about ancient civilizations and mythology. I also know your career is in academia so am thinking that perhaps Aisha conjunct Sun in Sag means that knowledge makes you feel Alive and well and is your key to achieving immortality. I think of just how much you have contributed to Lindaland and how much people read your posts and benefit from it and if lindaland never goes down the knowledge you acquire and share/teach others becomes immortal and in a sense you as well. Do you think this fits? or what is your interpretation?
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 2539 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted July 19, 2015 01:58 PM
interesting..in my synastry we only have them in sextilles and such, also they are about 12-15 degree away from each other in each natal chart, but they are exactly conjunct in our Composite chart... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20716 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 02:05 PM
Hypatia, thanks for your nice words on my contribution to LL, and yes I can see that interpretation, too. Sun rules my 9th house btw. Orange, the conjunction in composite has to happen (could have been opposite), because you have the same distance between them in your natals, just one waxin, one waning (the order of Gilgamesh-Aysha) is probabl reversed in your respective natal charts. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20716 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2015 02:16 PM
Natally we both have Aisha conjunct Mercury (DESC-ruler for both of us). Synastrically: my Gilgamesh conj. his Sun 3.46 my Gilgamesh conj. his Moon 2°05 my Gilgamesh conj. his MC 2°25 my Gilgamesh trine his NN 0°39 my Aisha conj. his Sun 0°24 my Aisha conj. his Moon 1°17 my Aisha square his Saturn 0°39 my Aisha conj. his MC 0°57
his Gilgamesh just out of conj. my Sun 4°45 his Gilgamesh widely conj. my Mercury 3°52 his Gilgamesh quintile my Pluto 0°06 his Gilgamesh trine my Chiron 1°06
his Aisha conj. my Neptune 0°02 his Aisha conj. my NN 0°11 his Aisha conj. my ASC 2°58 composite ---------- Gilgamesh Sag 11th house conjunct Sun, r7, 0°30 Aisha Sag 11th house conj. Mercury, r5+r8, 1°27 conj. Neptune, r2, 3°28
Davison ---------- Gilgamesh conj. Aisha Gemini 6th 1°14 conj. Sun in 6th, r7 0°40, 1°56
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 02:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: interesting..in my synastry we only have them in sextilles and such, also they are about 12-15 degree away from each other in each natal chart, but they are exactly conjunct in our Composite chart...
I am not looking so much for aspects between the two but more to see if either of these two aspect any love asteroids/objects, the luminaries, the angles or venus etc... However, if they are conjuncting each other in composite it would be very interesting to see if that conjunction aspects a composite love object or your natal or partner's natal chart in any way . Do share if you find anything else, thanks. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6879 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 19, 2015 04:18 PM
Wow!! The one and only person I have ever loved with all my heart and the love never dies no matter how long it's been or how infrequently we see each other...Our- Comp Sun aqua@19.03 Comp Gilgamesh aqua@18.24 Comp Aisha aqua@19.22 Comp Uranus libra@20.11 Comp Mars gem@16.36 Comp Juno gem@19.24 Comp Vertex gem@21.17 Comp Saturn gem@21.55 My Venus libra@19.05 His Sun/Moon midpoint aqua@19.07 His Vertex leo@21.12 My Vertex aries@21.23 His Psyche aries@20.09 My Psyche gem@15.56 IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Wow!! The one and only person I have ever loved with all my heart and the love never dies no matter how long it's been or how infrequently we see each other...Our- Comp Sun aqua@19.03 Comp Gilgamesh aqua@18.24 Comp Aisha aqua@19.22 Comp Uranus libra@20.11 Comp Mars gem@16.36 Comp Juno gem@19.24 Comp Vertex gem@21.17 Comp Saturn gem@21.55 My Venus libra@19.05 His Sun/Moon midpoint aqua@19.07 His Vertex leo@21.12 My Vertex aries@21.23 His Psyche aries@20.09 My Psyche gem@15.56
WOW Very nice Grand Trine Gabby!!!!!! and how each of your natals are connected to the grand trine its great. Thank you very much for sharing IP: Logged |
Newrise Knowflake Posts: 647 From: Los angeles Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 19, 2015 07:50 PM
My Gilgamesh conjuncts his Sun. His Gilgamesh conjuncts my venus.His Aisha conjuncts my Juno. My Draconic Gilgamesh interestingly conjuncts my sun exact and my natal Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 12:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Newrise: My Gilgamesh conjuncts his Sun. His Gilgamesh conjuncts my venus.His Aisha conjuncts my Juno. My Draconic Gilgamesh interestingly conjuncts my sun exact and my natal Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun.
Very Nice, really like the aspects to venus and juno....Do you feel one of you holds onto this idea of eternal love for the other more than the other? If you happen to know that is. Also do you have any midpoint composite aspects or Davison composite aspects? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 03:09 AM
Aha! Bullseye, H. GILGAMESH conjunct AISHA on ASC-DESTINN opposite VERTEX-CHIRON (on DSC) sextile SUN trine NNODE in composite. (Everything 0°-2°30). My AISHA is square my SUN-PLUTO (0°). His AISHA is 3° conjunct his KARMA, sextile his VALENTINE-ANTEROS (1°) and my PSYCHE (2°) and 0° conjunct my NNODE. My GILGAMESH is natally conjunct my AMOR, too (2°) sextile my KARMA (0°) and trine his NNODE (0°). His GILGAMESH is also 3° conjunct his NYMPHE and my SAPPHO (0°). This actually explains a LOT. I was looking for something like this today; some mythological 'couple' that relates to timeless, ageless, unconditional love. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 03:31 AM
A,Gilgamesh and Aisha are not a couple, they are both myths about trying to obtain immortality and Gilgamesh actually worked to obtain it and did but then it was stolen from him. I did not intend for them to be seeing as a couple but Gilgamesh is a him and Aisha a she so I suppose that may work! I just feel that either in connection with love objects natally, in synastry or composite can symbolize eternal love. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6879 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 04:15 AM
Hypatia...I found this interesting...it's taken from your link"GILGAMESH, GARDENS AND GREEKS It’s interesting that the Mesopotamian region, between the great Euphrates and Tigris rivers (the biblical setting of the Garden of Eden), is rich in myths about man’s deep regret at not attaining immortality." Mesopotamian(56000) Adam(1996) Eva(164) Paradise(2791) Aeternitas (446) Porta Coeli (3276) "heavens gate" Hyperborea (1309) According to certain esoteric systems and spiritual traditions, Hyperborea was the terrestrial and celestial beginning of civilisation. The home of original Man. Some theories postulate Hyperborea was the original Garden of Eden, the point where the earthly and heavenly planes meet. And it is said Man transgressed Divine Law in this Golden Age civilisation, the ultimate price being his banishment to the outside world. Man ventured into other regions of Earth, establishing new civilisations, bringing to an end this great and glorious Golden Age.
Comp Paradise cap@7.27 My IC cap@7.56 My Eros cap@9.00 His Valentine cap@9.24 My Valentine cap@9.59 Comp Valentine cap@9.41 Comp Porta Coeli cap@11.09 My Mesopotamian cap@12.17 -- Comp MC virgo@8.14 My Aeternitas virgo@8.30 My Juno virgo@12.20 -- His IC taurus@8.31 His Saturn taurus@11.00 My Hera taurus@12.20 -- His NN pisces@10.25 My Paradise pisces@10.15 My Osiris pisces@10.36 His Spirit cancer@10.34
His AC cap@13.53 My Lust cap@14.05 Comp Eros cap@14.47 Comp Karma cancer@15.30 Comp NN cap@16.04 Comp Hyperborea cap@16.22 -- Comp Psyche taurus@16.56 My Isis taurus@15.10 -- Comp Amor pisces@14.50 Comp Eva pisces@13.31 -- His DC cancer@13.53 Comp Mesopotamian aries@7.51 My DC aries@7.05 His Chiron aries@7.53 Comp Venus leo@7.19 Comp Adams leo@4.41 His Aeternitas gemini@8.06 My Eva gemini@8.05 His Isis libra@5.59 My Sun saggy@4.28 His Moon saggy@5.05
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6879 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 04:54 AM
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Newrise Knowflake Posts: 647 From: Los angeles Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 10:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Very Nice, really like the aspects to venus and juno....Do you feel one of you holds onto this idea of eternal love for the other more than the other? If you happen to know that is.Also do you have any midpoint composite aspects or Davison composite aspects?
Thanks: ) I do believe in eternal love but in our relationship it is him who holds it for us. I personally certainly hope for it to be
Davison Gilgamesh trines Venus 1 degree and conjuncts the composite Venus. Composite Gilgamesh loosely conjunct composite Venus so they loosely conjunct each other. Composite Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun and composite Gilgamesh conjuncts my Venus. I do doubt my decision sometimes in this relationship but maybe this is one of the things that has gotten me deep in this? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 11:02 AM
Gabby,We also have AETERNITAS-HYPERBOREA conjunct VALENTINE-JUNO in our composite. I think that's fascinating with GILGA-AISHA rising. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6879 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Gabby,We also have AETERNITAS-HYPERBOREA conjunct VALENTINE-JUNO in our composite. I think that's fascinating with GILGA-AISHA rising.
That's awesome and beautiful aspect! It's so interesting we are finding these asteroids making such important aspects in our charts. I guess it supports the whole eternal love/bond. I thought I'd given up on searching for this kind of bond and here I am again, getting excited! Puke...Ugh! Lol IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1186 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 22, 2015 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Hypatia...I found this interesting...it's taken from your link"GILGAMESH, GARDENS AND GREEKS It’s interesting that the Mesopotamian region, between the great Euphrates and Tigris rivers (the biblical setting of the Garden of Eden), is rich in myths about man’s deep regret at not attaining immortality." Mesopotamian(56000) Adam(1996) Eva(164) Paradise(2791) Aeternitas (446) Porta Coeli (3276) "heavens gate" Hyperborea (1309) According to certain esoteric systems and spiritual traditions, Hyperborea was the terrestrial and celestial beginning of civilisation. The home of original Man. Some theories postulate Hyperborea was the original Garden of Eden, the point where the earthly and heavenly planes meet. And it is said Man transgressed Divine Law in this Golden Age civilisation, the ultimate price being his banishment to the outside world. Man ventured into other regions of Earth, establishing new civilisations, bringing to an end this great and glorious Golden Age.
Comp Paradise cap@7.27 My IC cap@7.56 My Eros cap@9.00 His Valentine cap@9.24 My Valentine cap@9.59 Comp Valentine cap@9.41 Comp Porta Coeli cap@11.09 My Mesopotamian cap@12.17 -- Comp MC virgo@8.14 My Aeternitas virgo@8.30 My Juno virgo@12.20 -- His IC taurus@8.31 His Saturn taurus@11.00 My Hera taurus@12.20 -- His NN pisces@10.25 My Paradise pisces@10.15 My Osiris pisces@10.36
His AC cap@13.53 My Lust cap@14.05 Comp Eros cap@14.47 Comp NN cap@16.04 Comp Hyperborea cap@16.22 -- Comp Psyche taurus@16.56 My Isis taurus@15.10 -- Comp Amor pisces@14.50 Comp Eva pisces@13.31 -- His DC cancer@13.53 Comp Mesopotamian aries@7.51 My DC aries@7.05 His Chiron aries@7.53 Comp Venus leo@7.19 Comp Adams leo@4.41 His Aeternitas gemini@8.06 My Eva gemini@8.05 His Isis libra@5.59 My Sun saggy@4.28 His Moon saggy@5.05
Thanks for sharing your findings and your input. I actually did find some interesting aspects in Midpoint composite with my ex: Paradise in Cancer @ 28d08 Juno in Cancer @ 26d20 Aeternitas in Cancer @ 25d50 Vertex in Cancer @ 17d Northnode in Cancer @ 17d Eros in Libra @4d05 Porta Coeli in Libra @3d17 Saturn in Libra @19d Adam in Libra @21d Pluto in Libra @25d Mars in Libra @25d Valentine in Libra @23 Sun in Libra @26d Eva in Libra @27d (Eros conjunct Porta Coeli, nice and it really makes sense actually + Adam and Eva conjunct widely and are part of a stellium involving the Sun). Mesapotamia is in Aries @ 21d and Trines the stellium. Kaali in Sag @22, Lilith in Sag @23d, Neptune in Sag@23 and Spirit in Sag @24d sextile stellium in Libra and are at the apex of a tsquare between venus opposite moon. Amor in Aqua @22d34 Harmonia in Aqua @22d34 Hyperborea in Aqua @26d17 Pallas in Aqua @28d20 In Davison Composite we have: Porta Coeli @17d03 in Pisces Moon @16d22 in Pisces Venus @14d39 in Pisces
It explains a lot...Thanks. I find it interesting we all 3 share: *******Aeternitas conjunct Juno!******* We both have Amor aspect Hyperborea.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6879 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 22, 2015 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Thanks for sharing your findings and your input.I actually did find some interesting aspects in Midpoint composite with my ex: Paradise in Cancer @ 28d08 Juno in Cancer @ 26d20 Aeternitas in Cancer @ 25d50 Vertex in Cancer @ 17d Northnode in Cancer @ 17d Eros in Libra @4d05 Porta Coeli in Libra @3d17 Saturn in Libra @19d Adam in Libra @21d Pluto in Libra @25d Mars in Libra @25d Valentine in Libra @23 Sun in Libra @26d Eva in Libra @27d (Eros conjunct Porta Coeli, nice and it really makes sense actually + Adam and Eva conjunct widely and are part of a stellium involving the Sun). Mesapotamia is in Aries @ 21d and Trines the stellium. Kaali in Sag @22, Lilith in Sag @23d, Neptune in Sag@23 and Spirit in Sag @24d sextile stellium in Libra and are at the apex of a tsquare between venus opposite moon. Amor in Aqua @22d34 Harmonia in Aqua @22d34 Hyperborea in Aqua @26d17 Pallas in Aqua @28d20 In Davison Composite we have: Porta Coeli @17d03 in Pisces Moon @16d22 in Pisces Venus @14d39 in Pisces
It explains a lot...Thanks. I find it interesting we all 3 share: *******Aeternitas conjunct Juno!******* We both have Amor aspect Hyperborea.
Wow, very interesting findings! I love we are all finding so much giving support to your original theory of eternal love. I'm not finding these type of aspects with any other guys or relationships I've been in. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20716 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2015 04:20 PM
You made me look up PARADISE: Seemed fitting after all, I was watching the musical "Paradise of Pain" just on tuesday and wednesday. TR PARADISE was exact on my OSIRIS on the day of the performance One degree off my ISIS, FELICITAS and Venus. LOL
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20716 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2015 04:28 PM
so my natal chart --------------------- 12th house: Mesopotamia 26 Scorpio Valentine 27 Scorpio Hyperborea 29 Scorpio Porta Coeli 29 Scorpio 1st house ------------ Aisha 27 Sag Circe 27 Sag Reiki 27 Sag Sun 26 Sag Mercury 25 Sag
Gilgamesh 00 Cap Eva 01 Cap Boda 03 Cap
2nd house ------------ Paradise 23 Cap Don Quixote 23 Cap Arthur 21 Cap Antivertex 21 Cap Destinn 23 Cancer eros 21 Cancer
8th house ---------- Adams 9 Leo I think Parzifal is near ther
7th house -------------- Aeternitas 16 Gemini Karma 16 Gemini
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2015 04:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: That's awesome and beautiful aspect! It's so interesting we are finding these asteroids making such important aspects in our charts. I guess it supports the whole eternal love/bond. I thought I'd given up on searching for this kind of bond and here I am again, getting excited! Puke...Ugh! Lol
It finds us; kinda like the teacher appearing when the student is ready. It's funny, but this old song I've always loved -- from Jeff Lynne performed by Olivia Newton-John in 'Xanadu' called 'Magic' has been stuck in my head on this subject. You have to believe we are magic; Nothing can stand in our way. You have to believe we are magic; Don't let your aim ever stray. And if all your hopes survive, Your destiny will arrive; I'll bring all your dreams alive ... For you. From where I stand, You are home free; The planets align so rare. There's promise in the air, And I'm guiding you. Sometimes I feel like we're muses who stumbled into falling in love with each other; it was almost purely accidental. We just enjoyed each other's energy and spirit too much to part ways, despite (at least one of us) having some other 'artists in her care'. Heh. My name asteroid is MELETE, after all, which he has conjunct VALENTINE-ANTEROS. Even if my personality is more akin to Melpomene, I'm descended from that original Greek origin who prayed in temples to Melete. My actual, full birth name translates to 'noble, contemplative, and favoured by God' or simply 'gracious and noble contemplator'. IP: Logged |