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hypatia238
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posted July 19, 2015 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/religion-and-spirituality-eternity-life-after -death/1891.aspx

Gilgamesh (1812) and Aisha (3584) are linked to ancient stories about the quest for eternal life and immortality but if we apply it to synastry and composites what would this energy imply in this context?

Could it represent that desire for eternal love that doesn't die, that unbreakable love that transcends time and space or the presence of that type of love in a relationship?

Is it present in the synastries or composites of those loves that never die even though the relationship has ended?
That unforgettable love that lives on in your soul and spirit that you cannot help but feel that one day you two will reunite in another life.

Maybe is present in marriages were you have a strong feeling that you will love that person always no matter the outcome of the relationship.

I have the following aspects with someone that fits the above criteria:
1.
His Gilgamesh in Capricorn 28d37
His Kaali in Capricorn 27d09
My Sun in Virgo 28d08
My Alma in Taurus 28d11
Grand Trine between Gilgamesh-Kaali/my sun/my alma
2.
My Aisha in Virgo at 7degrees
My Priapus in Virgo at 7degrees
His Ishtar in Virgo at 7degrees
His Isis in Virgo at 7degrees
His Osiris in Virgo at 2degrees
My Pallas in Capricorn at 7 degrees
My Juno in Taurus at 5degrees
Grand Trine bt Aisha-Priapus-Ishtar-Isis-Osiris + Pallas + Juno
3.
Composite Gilgamesh in the first opposes exact C-Chiron in the 7th and both square C-Amor/Harmonia by 2 degrees forming a tsquare (my natal venu-mars conjunction would turn this into a grand cross. Composite Gilgamesh in the first conjuncts my natal Psyche and his natal Sun exact, Composite Aisha conjuncts composite AC).
4.
Davison Composite Kite:
C-Adonis in Cancer 24d53
C-Innanen in Pisces 24d18
C-Siva in Scorpio 24d43
C-Stellium: AC in Taurus 26d39, C-Amor in Taurus 27d14, Kaali in Taurus 28d34, C-Chiron in Taurus 21d06 and C-Gilgamesh in Taurus 20d14

*Natally Gilgamesh oppposes exact my moon and both square my Southnode forming a tsquare which I feel illustrates a strong longing for that eternal love; my southnode conjuncts by 1 degree his Psyche.

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posted July 19, 2015 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With current relationship:

He has Gilgamesh conjunct Amor at the apex of natal Yod inconjunct his psyche on one leg and his northnode on the other. My Northnode conjuncts his psyche and my Valentine and Vertex conjunct his Northnode:

His Gilgamesh is in capricorn at 18d42
His Amor is in capricorn at 19d30
His Psyche is in gemini at 19d51
His Northnode is in Leo at 19d03
My Northnode is in Gemini at 19d41
My Valentine is in Leo at 18d44
My vertex is in Leo at 20d30


Between my father and mother I always felt my dad loves me unconditionally as I am:

His Gilgamesh in pisces 1d12 forms a grand trine with my Adonis and my Innanen.

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posted July 19, 2015 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh a new one. BTW Gilgamesh is 1812


My Gilgamesh is 00 Cap conj. my Vesta. (
Aisha is a new one for me, on 27 Sagittarius, she is in good company there, as I have some other asteroids on 27 Sag. on that very degree, including
Sekhmet, Circe, Reiki,

Needless to say, Gilgamesh and Aisha are loosely conjunct (3°22)

They do seem to like being close to each other, have found that in many other charts as well, even if not technically conjunct, one of these paired ateroids, who move in step (like Santorini and Spirit, or Echnaton and Horus for example).

AISHA is also conjunct my Sun on 25°56 Sag

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posted July 19, 2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

AISHA is also conjunct my Sun on 25°56 Sag


Well any asteroid that conjuncts the Sun is suppose to be very powerful natally or in synastry.

Aisha \a(i)-sha\ as a girls' name is pronounced ah-EE-shah, AY-shah. It is of Arabic origin, and the meaning of Aisha is "alive and well". Also possibly means "life" in Swahili. Aisha was a wife of the prophet Muhammad. The name is also linked to the moon goddess. Use in the English-speaking world is recent and many variants have been created from this name due to its pleasing sounds.

Where does your Sun land and what does it rule? I know you have a thirst for knowledge specially about ancient civilizations and mythology. I also know your career is in academia so am thinking that perhaps Aisha conjunct Sun in Sag means that knowledge makes you feel Alive and well and is your key to achieving immortality. I think of just how much you have contributed to Lindaland and how much people read your posts and benefit from it and if lindaland never goes down the knowledge you acquire and share/teach others becomes immortal and in a sense you as well.


Do you think this fits? or what is your interpretation?

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posted July 19, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting..

in my synastry we only have them in sextilles and such, also they are about 12-15 degree away from each other in each natal chart, but they are exactly conjunct in our Composite chart...

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posted July 19, 2015 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia,

thanks for your nice words on my contribution to LL, and yes I can see that interpretation, too. Sun rules my 9th house btw.

Orange,

the conjunction in composite has to happen (could have been opposite), because you have the same distance between them in your natals, just one waxin, one waning (the order of Gilgamesh-Aysha) is probabl reversed in your respective natal charts.

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posted July 19, 2015 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natally we both have Aisha conjunct Mercury (DESC-ruler for both of us).

Synastrically:

my Gilgamesh conj. his Sun 3.46
my Gilgamesh conj. his Moon 2°05
my Gilgamesh conj. his MC 2°25
my Gilgamesh trine his NN 0°39


my Aisha conj. his Sun 0°24
my Aisha conj. his Moon 1°17
my Aisha square his Saturn 0°39
my Aisha conj. his MC 0°57


his Gilgamesh just out of conj. my Sun 4°45
his Gilgamesh widely conj. my Mercury 3°52
his Gilgamesh quintile my Pluto 0°06
his Gilgamesh trine my Chiron 1°06

his Aisha conj. my Neptune 0°02
his Aisha conj. my NN 0°11
his Aisha conj. my ASC 2°58

composite
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Gilgamesh Sag 11th house
conjunct Sun, r7, 0°30


Aisha Sag 11th house
conj. Mercury, r5+r8, 1°27
conj. Neptune, r2, 3°28

Davison
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Gilgamesh conj. Aisha Gemini 6th 1°14

conj. Sun in 6th, r7 0°40, 1°56


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posted July 19, 2015 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
interesting..

in my synastry we only have them in sextilles and such, also they are about 12-15 degree away from each other in each natal chart, but they are exactly conjunct in our Composite chart...


I am not looking so much for aspects between the two but more to see if either of these two aspect any love asteroids/objects, the luminaries, the angles or venus etc...

However, if they are conjuncting each other in composite it would be very interesting to see if that conjunction aspects a composite love object or your natal or partner's natal chart in any way . Do share if you find anything else, thanks.

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posted July 19, 2015 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!! The one and only person I have ever loved with all my heart and the love never dies no matter how long it's been or how infrequently we see each other...

Our-
Comp Sun aqua@19.03
Comp Gilgamesh aqua@18.24
Comp Aisha aqua@19.22
Comp Uranus libra@20.11
Comp Mars gem@16.36
Comp Juno gem@19.24
Comp Vertex gem@21.17
Comp Saturn gem@21.55

My Venus libra@19.05
His Sun/Moon midpoint aqua@19.07
His Vertex leo@21.12
My Vertex aries@21.23
His Psyche aries@20.09
My Psyche gem@15.56

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posted July 19, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow!! The one and only person I have ever loved with all my heart and the love never dies no matter how long it's been or how infrequently we see each other...

Our-
Comp Sun aqua@19.03
Comp Gilgamesh aqua@18.24
Comp Aisha aqua@19.22
Comp Uranus libra@20.11
Comp Mars gem@16.36
Comp Juno gem@19.24
Comp Vertex gem@21.17
Comp Saturn gem@21.55

My Venus libra@19.05
His Sun/Moon midpoint aqua@19.07
His Vertex leo@21.12
My Vertex aries@21.23
His Psyche aries@20.09
My Psyche gem@15.56


WOW Very nice Grand Trine Gabby!!!!!! and how each of your natals are connected to the grand trine its great. Thank you very much for sharing

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posted July 19, 2015 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Gilgamesh conjuncts his Sun.
His Gilgamesh conjuncts my venus.

His Aisha conjuncts my Juno.

My Draconic Gilgamesh interestingly conjuncts my sun exact and my natal Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Newrise:
My Gilgamesh conjuncts his Sun.
His Gilgamesh conjuncts my venus.

His Aisha conjuncts my Juno.

My Draconic Gilgamesh interestingly conjuncts my sun exact and my natal Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun.


Very Nice, really like the aspects to venus and juno....Do you feel one of you holds onto this idea of eternal love for the other more than the other? If you happen to know that is.

Also do you have any midpoint composite aspects or Davison composite aspects?

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posted July 20, 2015 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aha! Bullseye, H.

GILGAMESH conjunct AISHA on ASC-DESTINN opposite VERTEX-CHIRON (on DSC) sextile SUN trine NNODE in composite. (Everything 0°-2°30).

My AISHA is square my SUN-PLUTO (0°). His AISHA is 3° conjunct his KARMA, sextile his VALENTINE-ANTEROS (1°) and my PSYCHE (2°) and 0° conjunct my NNODE. My GILGAMESH is natally conjunct my AMOR, too (2°) sextile my KARMA (0°) and trine his NNODE (0°). His GILGAMESH is also 3° conjunct his NYMPHE and my SAPPHO (0°).

This actually explains a LOT. I was looking for something like this today; some mythological 'couple' that relates to timeless, ageless, unconditional love.

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posted July 20, 2015 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A,

Gilgamesh and Aisha are not a couple, they are both myths about trying to obtain immortality and Gilgamesh actually worked to obtain it and did but then it was stolen from him. I did not intend for them to be seeing as a couple but Gilgamesh is a him and Aisha a she so I suppose that may work!

I just feel that either in connection with love objects natally, in synastry or composite can symbolize eternal love.

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posted July 20, 2015 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia...I found this interesting...it's taken from your link

"GILGAMESH, GARDENS AND GREEKS

It’s interesting that the Mesopotamian region, between the great Euphrates and Tigris rivers (the biblical setting of the Garden of Eden), is rich in myths about man’s deep regret at not attaining immortality."


Mesopotamian(56000)
Adam(1996)
Eva(164)
Paradise(2791)
Aeternitas (446)
Porta Coeli (3276) "heavens gate"
Hyperborea (1309)
According to certain esoteric systems and spiritual traditions, Hyperborea was the terrestrial and celestial beginning of civilisation. The home of original Man. Some theories postulate Hyperborea was the original Garden of Eden, the point where the earthly and heavenly planes meet. And it is said Man transgressed Divine Law in this Golden Age civilisation, the ultimate price being his banishment to the outside world. Man ventured into other regions of Earth, establishing new civilisations, bringing to an end this great and glorious Golden Age.


Comp Paradise cap@7.27
My IC cap@7.56
My Eros cap@9.00
His Valentine cap@9.24
My Valentine cap@9.59
Comp Valentine cap@9.41
Comp Porta Coeli cap@11.09
My Mesopotamian cap@12.17
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Comp MC virgo@8.14
My Aeternitas virgo@8.30
My Juno virgo@12.20
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His IC taurus@8.31
His Saturn taurus@11.00
My Hera taurus@12.20
--
His NN pisces@10.25
My Paradise pisces@10.15
My Osiris pisces@10.36
His Spirit cancer@10.34

His AC cap@13.53
My Lust cap@14.05
Comp Eros cap@14.47
Comp Karma cancer@15.30
Comp NN cap@16.04
Comp Hyperborea cap@16.22
--
Comp Psyche taurus@16.56
My Isis taurus@15.10
--
Comp Amor pisces@14.50
Comp Eva pisces@13.31
--
His DC cancer@13.53


Comp Mesopotamian aries@7.51
My DC aries@7.05
His Chiron aries@7.53
Comp Venus leo@7.19
Comp Adams leo@4.41
His Aeternitas gemini@8.06
My Eva gemini@8.05
His Isis libra@5.59
My Sun saggy@4.28
His Moon saggy@5.05

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posted July 20, 2015 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2015 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2015 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Very Nice, really like the aspects to venus and juno....Do you feel one of you holds onto this idea of eternal love for the other more than the other? If you happen to know that is.

Also do you have any midpoint composite aspects or Davison composite aspects?


Thanks: )


I do believe in eternal love but in our relationship it is him who holds it for us.
I personally certainly hope for it to be

Davison Gilgamesh trines Venus 1 degree and conjuncts the composite Venus. Composite Gilgamesh loosely conjunct composite Venus so they loosely conjunct each other.

Composite Aisha conjuncts my draconic sun and composite Gilgamesh conjuncts my Venus.

I do doubt my decision sometimes in this relationship but maybe this is one of the things that has gotten me deep in this?

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posted July 20, 2015 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gabby,

We also have AETERNITAS-HYPERBOREA conjunct VALENTINE-JUNO in our composite.

I think that's fascinating with GILGA-AISHA rising.

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posted July 20, 2015 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Gabby,

We also have AETERNITAS-HYPERBOREA conjunct VALENTINE-JUNO in our composite.

I think that's fascinating with GILGA-AISHA rising.


That's awesome and beautiful aspect!
It's so interesting we are finding these asteroids making such important aspects in our charts. I guess it supports the whole eternal love/bond.
I thought I'd given up on searching for this kind of bond and here I am again, getting excited! Puke...Ugh! Lol

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posted July 22, 2015 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Hypatia...I found this interesting...it's taken from your link

"GILGAMESH, GARDENS AND GREEKS

It’s interesting that the Mesopotamian region, between the great Euphrates and Tigris rivers (the biblical setting of the Garden of Eden), is rich in myths about man’s deep regret at not attaining immortality."


Mesopotamian(56000)
Adam(1996)
Eva(164)
Paradise(2791)
Aeternitas (446)
Porta Coeli (3276) "heavens gate"
Hyperborea (1309)
According to certain esoteric systems and spiritual traditions, Hyperborea was the terrestrial and celestial beginning of civilisation. The home of original Man. Some theories postulate Hyperborea was the original Garden of Eden, the point where the earthly and heavenly planes meet. And it is said Man transgressed Divine Law in this Golden Age civilisation, the ultimate price being his banishment to the outside world. Man ventured into other regions of Earth, establishing new civilisations, bringing to an end this great and glorious Golden Age.


Comp Paradise cap@7.27
My IC cap@7.56
My Eros cap@9.00
His Valentine cap@9.24
My Valentine cap@9.59
Comp Valentine cap@9.41
Comp Porta Coeli cap@11.09
My Mesopotamian cap@12.17
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Comp MC virgo@8.14
My Aeternitas virgo@8.30
My Juno virgo@12.20
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His IC taurus@8.31
His Saturn taurus@11.00
My Hera taurus@12.20
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His NN pisces@10.25
My Paradise pisces@10.15
My Osiris pisces@10.36

His AC cap@13.53
My Lust cap@14.05
Comp Eros cap@14.47
Comp NN cap@16.04
Comp Hyperborea cap@16.22
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Comp Psyche taurus@16.56
My Isis taurus@15.10
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Comp Amor pisces@14.50
Comp Eva pisces@13.31
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His DC cancer@13.53


Comp Mesopotamian aries@7.51
My DC aries@7.05
His Chiron aries@7.53
Comp Venus leo@7.19
Comp Adams leo@4.41
His Aeternitas gemini@8.06
My Eva gemini@8.05
His Isis libra@5.59
My Sun saggy@4.28
His Moon saggy@5.05


Thanks for sharing your findings and your input.

I actually did find some interesting aspects in Midpoint composite with my ex:

Paradise in Cancer @ 28d08
Juno in Cancer @ 26d20
Aeternitas in Cancer @ 25d50
Vertex in Cancer @ 17d
Northnode in Cancer @ 17d

Eros in Libra @4d05
Porta Coeli in Libra @3d17
Saturn in Libra @19d
Adam in Libra @21d
Pluto in Libra @25d
Mars in Libra @25d
Valentine in Libra @23
Sun in Libra @26d
Eva in Libra @27d

(Eros conjunct Porta Coeli, nice and it really makes sense actually + Adam and Eva conjunct widely and are part of a stellium involving the Sun).

Mesapotamia is in Aries @ 21d and Trines the stellium.

Kaali in Sag @22, Lilith in Sag @23d, Neptune in Sag@23 and Spirit in Sag @24d sextile stellium in Libra and are at the apex of a tsquare between venus opposite moon.

Amor in Aqua @22d34
Harmonia in Aqua @22d34
Hyperborea in Aqua @26d17
Pallas in Aqua @28d20


In Davison Composite we have:
Porta Coeli @17d03 in Pisces
Moon @16d22 in Pisces
Venus @14d39 in Pisces

It explains a lot...Thanks. I find it interesting we all 3 share:

*******Aeternitas conjunct Juno!*******

We both have Amor aspect Hyperborea.


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posted July 22, 2015 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thanks for sharing your findings and your input.

I actually did find some interesting aspects in Midpoint composite with my ex:

Paradise in Cancer @ 28d08
Juno in Cancer @ 26d20
Aeternitas in Cancer @ 25d50
Vertex in Cancer @ 17d
Northnode in Cancer @ 17d

Eros in Libra @4d05
Porta Coeli in Libra @3d17
Saturn in Libra @19d
Adam in Libra @21d
Pluto in Libra @25d
Mars in Libra @25d
Valentine in Libra @23
Sun in Libra @26d
Eva in Libra @27d

(Eros conjunct Porta Coeli, nice and it really makes sense actually + Adam and Eva conjunct widely and are part of a stellium involving the Sun).

Mesapotamia is in Aries @ 21d and Trines the stellium.

Kaali in Sag @22, Lilith in Sag @23d, Neptune in Sag@23 and Spirit in Sag @24d sextile stellium in Libra and are at the apex of a tsquare between venus opposite moon.

Amor in Aqua @22d34
Harmonia in Aqua @22d34
Hyperborea in Aqua @26d17
Pallas in Aqua @28d20


In Davison Composite we have:
Porta Coeli @17d03 in Pisces
Moon @16d22 in Pisces
Venus @14d39 in Pisces

It explains a lot...Thanks. I find it interesting we all 3 share:

*******Aeternitas conjunct Juno!*******

We both have Amor aspect Hyperborea.


Wow, very interesting findings! I love we are all finding so much giving support to your original theory of eternal love. I'm not finding these type of aspects with any other guys or relationships I've been in.

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You made me look up PARADISE:

Seemed fitting after all, I was watching the musical "Paradise of Pain" just on tuesday and wednesday.


TR PARADISE was exact on my OSIRIS on the day of the performance
One degree off my ISIS, FELICITAS and Venus. LOL


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so my natal chart
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12th house:
Mesopotamia 26 Scorpio
Valentine 27 Scorpio
Hyperborea 29 Scorpio
Porta Coeli 29 Scorpio


1st house
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Aisha 27 Sag
Circe 27 Sag
Reiki 27 Sag
Sun 26 Sag
Mercury 25 Sag


Gilgamesh 00 Cap
Eva 01 Cap
Boda 03 Cap


2nd house
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Paradise 23 Cap
Don Quixote 23 Cap
Arthur 21 Cap
Antivertex 21 Cap
Destinn 23 Cancer
eros 21 Cancer


8th house
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Adams 9 Leo
I think Parzifal is near ther


7th house
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Aeternitas 16 Gemini
Karma 16 Gemini

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posted July 24, 2015 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
That's awesome and beautiful aspect!
It's so interesting we are finding these asteroids making such important aspects in our charts. I guess it supports the whole eternal love/bond.
I thought I'd given up on searching for this kind of bond and here I am again, getting excited! Puke...Ugh! Lol

It finds us; kinda like the teacher appearing when the student is ready. It's funny, but this old song I've always loved -- from Jeff Lynne performed by Olivia Newton-John in 'Xanadu' called 'Magic' has been stuck in my head on this subject.

You have to believe we are magic;
Nothing can stand in our way.
You have to believe we are magic;
Don't let your aim ever stray.
And if all your hopes survive,
Your destiny will arrive;
I'll bring all your dreams alive ...
For you.
From where I stand,
You are home free;
The planets align so rare.
There's promise in the air,
And I'm guiding you.

Sometimes I feel like we're muses who stumbled into falling in love with each other; it was almost purely accidental. We just enjoyed each other's energy and spirit too much to part ways, despite (at least one of us) having some other 'artists in her care'.

Heh. My name asteroid is MELETE, after all, which he has conjunct VALENTINE-ANTEROS. Even if my personality is more akin to Melpomene, I'm descended from that original Greek origin who prayed in temples to Melete. My actual, full birth name translates to 'noble, contemplative, and favoured by God' or simply 'gracious and noble contemplator'.

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