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malicefey
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posted July 21, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for malicefey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I haven't been to LL for a long time. I just want to say that I haven't really been keeping up with astrology much. I do want to point out that transiting uranus is the real deal. I married the love of my life (and I was his too) about a year ago. Now we recently had a huge problem and he ultimately want to separate. Our problems have always been brushed aside without ever taking time to sit down and worked through. This is our one big problem. We never said anything about divorce yet, but as of right now, it seems like a separation. He could not say break up, or that he doesnt love me anymore or that he doesnt want to be with me anymore..just that he is very deeply hurt by the things I have been saying and throwing his way and ultimately he is afraid of everything happening again even if we continued to be together.

I offered the solution to actually sit down and talk and learn to work through problems. I don't think at this moment he is going to wanna hear anything. He has already pre-determined that he doesnt want us to be together anymore because it wouldn't be fair to the both of us.

I want to just show everyone our synastry chart. Also, transiting uranus is going through his 7th house where he has his moon (he is on the outside). So...whatever happens time will tell with us. I just wanted to point out that Uranus going through anyone's 7th house is no joke.

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Randall
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posted July 22, 2015 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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GypseeWind
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posted July 22, 2015 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guy has tr Uranus to his 7th right now.
It was there when we met 7 mos ago. I've heard this transit can also show meeting someone and falling in love at first sight. Usually someone very different than your usual type.

Pluto to 7th brought me the biggest heartbreak of my life, so that one's no fun either. My ex currently has pluto tr HIS 7th, and I suspect that we'll divorce during its stay there.

Uranus can be short lived. I hope in your case it's just a temporary glitch.

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malicefey
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posted July 23, 2015 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for malicefey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your feedback. I am also looking for other people's feedback.

I will post his natal chart and a better version of our synastry / composite.

His birth chart:

Our Synastry:

Our Composite:

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malicefey
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posted July 23, 2015 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for malicefey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He left yesterday packed all his stuff, and threw out stuff he isnt going to need or use. He said he will leave his computer, and that I can do whatever I want with it -- give it someone or whatever. He left the keys to our place here too. He asked to separate our joint phone account. I did. He wanted to take back the money he had put in our joint bank account. I let him. He still did not bring up divorce or mention that word.

I had a feeling in the back of my mind that this is it. We have been together for 8 years total. I broke up with him once for someone that I unusually liked. He was heartbroken and after a year I came to my senses and he took me back. I told him "This feels like deja vu. I feel like now..the tables have turned." He only said "perhaps."

I had said whatever I could to him. Expressed how he is the love of my life and my one and only. Always have been, regardless of all the **** we went through. And he even said we went through alot of **** . The bad and the good too. He said that he came to this ultimate decision himself. He said of course he will miss me, he always will. He said he will be there for me, just not as a partner. He said I deserve someone who will be there for me, have patience, and will have the time. And same for him too. He said that ya, sure, maybe in a few months, a year or two, who knows what happens, but he can't be with me. He loves me as a person. He said he won't be cold to me like the first time we broke up..he said he will of course still keep in contact..just not everyday, but he will check in when he has time. He said he doesn't want to live like this and that a relationship should not be this way.

He thought about the future too. He knows I want kids soon, maybe not right away but it's something he knows I ultimately want. He said "what if in 5 years I am still traveling so much like I am now? I don't want the kid to grow up with only 1 parent in their life. I know i don't think about the future much but now I have."

I know him. His mind is set. He is not the type to really make quick rash decision, even though this break up was very abrupt, quick and over an argument that was small and could be fixed if we sat down and worked towards solutions.

I said I will never give up on him, and I hope he the same. He said "you and i both know that we should not be sitting around hoping and waiting. Yea it might take a few months or so for us to start seeing other people, but we need to find someone who will make us happy. I cannot make you happy, I have tried so hard, I really have. And I just cannot be with you."

I said I have solutions, we can work things out, every relationship goes through **** and ppl need to put in effort to sit down and work things out. That's what adults do. I said look me in the eye and tell me that you don't love me and that you don't want to be with me. Then all of this..will not matter anymore, and I will shut up.

He cried. He just kept shaking his head crying, and said "I can't...this feeling, I just gotta shake it off. I just gotta get over this feeling in me..."

I know he is very heartbroken. To be honest, none of our friends and family expected this to happen, and although I told everyone we had a problem, everyone thought that all will be fine and he will take me back and we will work toward a solution. So all of this...is very sudden, abrupt, and not like him.

Please, any help in terms of what is in our charts..I would greatly appreciate. Thanks all.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 23, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, based on what you have laid out, I don't think going over the composite astrology (or his) will do you much if any good. Astrology only sets up choices in life and how we orient ourselves based on our starting place. He's made a choice, and as painful as it is for both of you, it did not come out of the blue. It has been building for a while.

When Uranus transits like this conjunct Jupiter in the 7th house a person almost certainly will take new freedoms in relation to others, but will generally only break free of a relationship if they feel it has truly been imprisoning them in some way.

However, there are more transits at work in this timing than just Uranus. Don't think that this transit alone somehow magically turned your partnership inside out. Taking the Asc of the chart you show for him as basically accurate, we see Pluto is in transit square to it, in its last retrograde towards exact aspect to it. Uranus transits square the IC/MC axis of that chart.

These are very difficult transits for a relationship to endure that has rocky history.

You have acknowledged his pain. Find out what it takes to learn from the experience and heal, so that you can grow from it.

What matters now in terms of astrology is actually your chart and what you can learn about yourself. And its a good lesson, if I may say so, in keeping up with your own astrology as part of a personal growth and awareness process so that there is far less likelihood of going through such disappointing experiences. Think of it as a loving act to your future self. I see three charts here, none of which is yours.

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malicefey
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posted July 23, 2015 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for malicefey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your feedback. I think that helps me put some things in perspective. Yes. I guess he has finally broken free. I know it is overpowering for him because he did endure alot being with me. Alot of pain, anger, resentment, love, and all inbetween. Now, he can move on. He can experience and live a world without me, and truly become who he is meant to be. He will grow, and he will ultimately find what he is looking for in life.

You are right. I did not upload my own chart. However, I will now and in hopes to find and understand myself better.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 23, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
malicefey,

Looking at your chart, I see in the declinations that Saturn [17S50] is now transiting parallel your natal Mercury [18S14]. This, just as with the conjunction, often marks a time in which accumulated difficulties in communication or thought patterns have to be either brought to a head or ended. Often this is a transit of 'saying goodbye.' Robert Hand emphasizes this in his classic work Planets in Transit. This is a process, of course, not necessarily limited just to the time frame of the duration of this transit alone.

That transit and the progression of your Moon parallel natal Mars on July 22 roughly times the experience you have described. (I can't get any more specific than that as there are indicators your Asc is at least 3 degrees of if not more).

I can see transit and progression factors that strongly suggest that there is freedom, relief inherent in this breakup. So as hard as it may be, try to hold some thought of that.

I would like you to read both the descriptions of Libra rising and Scorpio rising here when you feel like it, so that we can see if your cuspy Asc needs adjusting:
https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#libra

In terms of your natal chart, I think the actual place to focus on in terms of learning about yourself are Moon in Virgo, Moon conjunct Pluto (because you have Moon parallel Pluto, same). Also Venus conjunct Pluto, and Mercury conjunct Pluto. Also, Moon square Neptune.

There are lots of good sources for interpretation online by searching using these terms. I think a good natal reading would be great, but I'm not going to use this opportunity while you are in emotional turmoil to promote myself.

I wish you well, and want you to know that there is healing for everyone who sets their mind to it. Life is made of different phases and it is okay to focus on healing yourself for a while. After all, only we are responsible ultimately for our own inner well being.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 23, 2015 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also want to add that there are helps to healing that I have personally experienced. About 8 years ago I had yet another situation of unrequited love and when it became obvious that no relationship could develop from it, I knew I had to heal. It was painful and difficult, but once I discovered Larimar I was able to use it in meditative exercises to release and move on. It allowed me to enter a state of profound meditation after 10-15 minutes of holding it on my chest in a relaxed position. I experienced myself as expanded beyond the boundaries of my body, yet this was a very ordinary sensation.

Larimar is an example of a healing stone especially effective for those who feel they didn't get enough love or mother nurturing. I mention it since your chart has Moon in Virgo parallel Pluto, which can sometimes indicate similar experiences.

If not this stone, there may be another that could work equally well for you. The information I used to make my choice was found in The Crystal Bible.

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