posted July 22, 2015 09:15 PM            

how does the venus/mars midpoint owner feel? is the square difficult when it contacts midpoints?

thanks in advance I'm eager to know what your thoughts on this ! xxxxxxx

posted July 24, 2015 04:36 AM            

For example, my ex producing partner has his VENUS/MARS and EROS/PSYCHE conjunct at 18° Aquarius -- which is 0° conjunct my SNODE. But does it DO anything? In his case, kind of. Being that the MARS-PSYCHE were loosely conjunct my SNODE, and the same went for his VENUS/EROS, we could almost count them all as very wide conjunctions. Instead, the Midpoint energy was created: Union of VENUS and MARS with EROS and PSYCHE. And then you've got my SNODE there, 'flipping the switch' and activating the trigger point.

If we counted squares alone, I could say my CHIRON is square it by 1°. Though there may be some truth, again, given the fact that his VENUS is square my CHIRON. Since that VENUS is powerfully and energetically fused with MARS, then the Midpoint every may carry somewhat by sheer association. But not EROS/PSYCHE. Both are out of orb of making a true square, and I prefer to have something there on the Midpoint making aspects.

posted July 24, 2015 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well I find squares to midpoints surprisingly valid and strong. Even though theoretically I would think the direct midpoints are stronger, but I cannot deny the square`s impact. Maybe there is a difference in meaning, like it introduces more tension, but I am not sure yet.

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posted July 24, 2015 06:44 PM            

All in all, I'd say PRIAPUS square VE/MA would indicate sexual attraction for both people. Just keep in mind that you need more than that to be sure of it.

posted July 24, 2015 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
PRIAPUS is still only a hypothetical planet, after all.

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Actually he isn“t. Hairsplitting as it might be.
He`s a calculated point, the perigee of the Moon.

posted July 24, 2015 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually he isn“t. Hairsplitting as it might be.
He`s a calculated point, the perigee of the Moon.

apart from that I agree.

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Oh ! Sorry. That actually explains why he's always more or less opposite h13. Thanks for that, I had no idea.

posted July 24, 2015 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Oh ! Sorry. That actually explains why he's always more or less opposite h13. Thanks for that, I had no idea.

So, do you think that makes him more influential ?

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Ohhh, indeed. In fact, Ceri gave a wonderful explanation of PRIAPUS awhile back. I'll see if I can't link you, Pel. It really brought it all home for me.

posted July 24, 2015 11:30 PM            

I haven't actually heard of that theory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it proved true for the SUN/MOON midpoint -- it does seem very plausible. I'd be a little more sceptic with the other midpoints, though, as they all seem to carry a precise meaning which would be less easily connected to identity. I like to think that the midpoint owner's feelings are strongly activated and express the energies of his midpoint, rather than the other way round ; this tends to happen more with the conjunction. When using other hard aspects, there usually is an interaction felt between the planet and the midpoint, but spread out more evenly between the two partners.

Also, I believe you were asking about the seemingly incompatible squares in a synastry. Well, to be honest, I think I've pretty much let go the idea of considering squares and other hard aspects 'bad', 'unpleasant', and even 'dangerous'. Squares, to me, are only very significant aspects which always bring strong results along with them ; deciding upon whether they're 'bad' or not only depends on the aspect, its planets involved, and how they interact natally (afflicted, etc.). I don't completely disregard, however, the initial incompatible feeling of a square, but I'll tend to save that for planets rather than asteroids and midpoints.

So, yes, the MOON-MOON (and SUN-MOON ?) square(s) you mentioned could have very likely been the source of the emotional incomprehensions.in the relationship. Mind you, a square, even interacting between two vulnerable and important luminaries, doesn't mean that the relationship is doomed in whatever area the square's touching. The only difficulty there is that it simply needs to be worked upon, that's all.

posted July 24, 2015 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've always wondered what it means that I have Priapus on my sun/moon midpoint, along with Hekate and Asmodeus...seems a bit scary! It's opposed my Chiron.

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posted July 25, 2015 05:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Oh ! Sorry. That actually explains why he's always more or less opposite h13. Thanks for that, I had no idea.

So, do you think that makes him more influential ?

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WEll in fact Priapus, the natural perigee, is astronomically paired with Lilih the natural apogee (h22 or h21, I always forget which one), not the oscillating Black Moon, true Lilith. at least not astronomocially speaking.
BUT I noticed thta still this Priapus is so often opposing the true Lilith, it`s really intriguing.

Yes, I do think the Black Moon and Priapus are more important than we give them credit to; actually they are just a calculated axis (losing the term axis lightly as they are not exactly opposite per definition) as the nodal axis is.

If they are MORE important than something else? I don“t know. I have not made up my mind about hypothetical planets at all. Well Iused to completely reject them, cause of the theory behind them (since they are hypothetical, they never have been even observed, but just some people, okay possibly great astrologers, thought that there MUST BE something there. Not sure how much credit I give to such a line of thought.
Not much actually.
However Aubyanne swears they are important, and she is a pretty good astrologer, so I at least keep an eye on them, Cupido in particular, and maybe should do so in terms of Vulcanus as well, as he is opposing my Venus by 43 minutes, which isclose enough to warrant closer scrutiny I think. Apollo is conjunct my MC by 42 minutes. Cupido is conjunct my Union by 22 minutes and my Uranus by 1°53. Kronos conjuncting my SN by 3 minutes. So I guess I should keep an eye on them)

posted July 25, 2015 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:

Wow ! I wonder how sensitive it's been in your synastries ?

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posted July 25, 2015 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ohhh, indeed. In fact, Ceri gave a wonderful explanation of PRIAPUS awhile back. I'll see if I can't link you, Pel. It really brought it all home for me.

And I can tell you I certainly feel his BML conjunct my PRIAPUS (0ŗ), not to mention with tURA crossing it. Wow. What transformation in the area of all those 8H issues!

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auby, can you tell me your defintion of venus/eros midpoint? i was reading your earlier comment and wondered what venus/eros signifies?

posted July 25, 2015 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Angel,

I haven't actually heard of that theory, but I wouldn't be surprised if it proved true for the SUN/MOON midpoint -- it does seem very plausible. I'd be a little more sceptic with the other midpoints, though, as they all seem to carry a precise meaning which would be less easily connected to identity. I like to think that the midpoint owner's feelings are strongly activated and express the energies of his midpoint, rather than the other way round ; this tends to happen more with the conjunction. When using other hard aspects, there usually is an interaction felt between the planet and the midpoint, but spread out more evenly between the two partners.

Also, I believe you were asking about the seemingly incompatible squares in a synastry. Well, to be honest, I think I've pretty much let go the idea of considering squares and other hard aspects 'bad', 'unpleasant', and even 'dangerous'. Squares, to me, are only very significant aspects which always bring strong results along with them ; deciding upon whether they're 'bad' or not only depends on the aspect, its planets involved, and how they interact natally (afflicted, etc.). I don't completely disregard, however, the initial incompatible feeling of a square, but I'll tend to save that for planets rather than asteroids and midpoints.

So, yes, the MOON-MOON (and SUN-MOON ?) square(s) you mentioned could have very likely been the source of the emotional incomprehensions.in the relationship. Mind you, a square, even interacting between two vulnerable and important luminaries, doesn't mean that the relationship is doomed in whatever area the square's touching. The only difficulty there is that it simply needs to be worked upon, that's all.

Hope this helped. Good luck on your Priapus Personas !

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