posted August 02, 2015 06:54 AM            

ERIS - Eris (/ˈɪərɪs, ˈɛrɪs/; Greek: Ἔρις, "Strife")[1] is the Greek goddess of chaos, strife and discord. Her name is the equivalent of Latin Discordia, which means "discord". Eris' Greek opposite is Harmonia, whose Latin counterpart is Concordia. Homer equated her with the war-goddess Enyo. Enyo (/ɨˈnaɪoʊ/; Greek: Ἐνυώ was a goddess of war and destruction in Greek mythology, the companion and lover of the war god Ares. She is also identified as his sister Eris, and daughter of Zeus and Hera,[1] in a role closely resembling that of Eris; with Homer in particular representing the two as the same goddess. She is also accredited as the mother of the war god Enyalius, by Ares.[2] However, the name Enyalius or Enyalios can also be used as a title for Ares himself.[3]

As goddess of war, Enyo is responsible for orchestrating the destruction of cities, often accompanying Ares into battle,[4] and depicted "as supreme in war".[5] During the fall of Troy, Enyo inflicted terror and bloodshed in the war, along with Eris ("Strife"), and Phobos ("Fear") and Deimos ("Dread"), the two sons of Ares.[6] She, Eris, and the two sons of Ares are depicted on Achilles’s shield.[6]

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 02, 2015 06:56 AM            

Here is a summary of the mythology of Makemake which I cobbled together from a variety of websites (thanks to the websites and, of course, our old friend Google):

On Rapanui (Easter Island) people believed in a variety of god or 'atua' Most prominent among the 'atua' was the Creator God, Makemake, who was a 'birdman'.

Makemake was born from a floating skull that was washed from a temple into the sea. He created the first humans. Together with his companion, the goddess Haua, he brought flocks of migratory seabirds to the island.

As well as the creator of mankind and Makemake was also regarded patron of the Bird Cult, the principal festival of Easter Island, and was worshipped in the form of sea birds, which were considered his incarnation. His material symbol, a man with a bird's head, can be found carved in hundreds of petroglyphs on Easter Island, human figures with the heads and tails of birds, into the rocks.

He was the god of fertility and the chief god of the "Tangata manu" or bird-man cult (this cult succeeded the islands more famous Moai era, when the famous stone heads were carved).

Makemake is also found on enigmatic rongorongo sticks of Easter Island referenced as a sun god whose companion is the moon goddess Hina.

The Easter Island's principal god was Makemake. The name does not occur elsewhere as the name of a powerful god, and some think that it is a local name substitution for the important Polynesian god Tane. This theory is supported by the myth that Makemake created man on Easter Island in a way similar to that used by Tane and Tiki to form the first woman in other parts of Polynesia.

Makemake procreated red flesh from a calabash of water. He mounded up some earth and from it he formed three males and one female. The process of mounding up earth is described in the local dialect as popo i te one, in which one is the general term for earth and popo is the local verb for heaping up, which in other dialects is aha.

From the wreck which remains of local mythology, there remain a few definite indications that the mythology of Easter Island contained fundamental elements that originated in central Polynesia.

Makemake was responsible for the fertility of food plants, fowls, and the paper mulberry from which cloth was produced. When crops were planted, a skull representing Makemake was placed in the ground and an incantation was offered, commencing, 'Ka to ma Haua, ma Makemake' (Plant for Haua, for Makemake).

Makemake was worshipped in the form of sea-birds, which may be interpreted as his incarnation. His material symbol, a man with a bird's head, was carved on the rocks at the Orongo village. Wooden images representing him were carried at the feasts. These various items conform to a general Polynesian pattern, but the bird-headed man is an expression of art influenced by local developments.

posted August 02, 2015 06:57 AM            

Haumea is a RECENTLY DISCOVERED dwarf planet about the size of Pluto in the Kuiper Belt. It was named in 2008. It is one of the most remarkable objects in our solar system for two reasons – firstly, it is egg shaped and spins extremely rapidly end-over-end at a rate of 3.9 earth hours. This rapid rotation enables it to maintain a state of equilibrium. Secondly, it is made of pure stone covered in crystalline water , with one red spot– this is incredibly strange as it is technically is not warm enough to have water in crystal form on its surface, due to its great distance from the sun. Yet it does.

Haumea is named after the Hawaiian creatrix goddess of fertility. Her many chidren sprang from different parts of her body (including her brain). The planet has 8 moons which correspond to her 8 children which are represented by the 8 Hawaiian islands Haumea birthed from various points on her body. Haumea herself takes many different forms and has experienced many different rebirths. Her name means “sacred birth”. In astrology, Haumea represents the ability to give birth in a special way – in essence - the ability to produce a pure, clear, fresh , new state of consciousness; and the ability to birth soul awareness of an unadulterated nature. The purity element is derived from the fact that Haumea is made up of smooth pure rock and pure ice – unadulterated, fundamental elements in a rapidly spinning state of equilibrium. The “birthing” aspect is derived not only from Haumea herself, but also due to the egg-shape of the planet.

Haumea is also associated with the incarnation of souls over many lifetimes and through this, represents the continuance of the soul as well as the ability to maintain awareness of one’s soul nature from lifetime to lifetime. Haumea teaches a wholistic view of life – integrating biological and ecological awareness with the sacredness of life and an attunement to embracing our sojourn on earth with the awareness of being an evolving soul. In this way she represents a re-birth in consciousness for humanity, which supports greater spiritual awareness about the fundamental primordial forces of life. Heumea supports action to reorient the world’s militaristic and destructive use of power and resources into a nurturing force that protects life, home and family and aids humanity’s emergence into a spiritually and primordial aware state of being. It symbolizes a new world view, particularly in relation to spiritual and religious beliefs. At a personal level, Haumea inspires the application of our personal attributes and resources for the same principles. She is a focus point through which we connect wit the Mother Focus in the Divine energy, the point where spiritual birth or rebirth can be accessed and experienced, bringing greater spiritual awareness and attunement. She opens doors within us."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000364.html

So what is the profile of these 3 in your natal chart?

posted August 02, 2015 07:00 AM            

Enneline said, just by her intuition, Haumea must be present in couples having children, being fertile.
I said I will check my parents, the have been fertile, decided for 3 daughters; contraception was illegal in my country when they were young, so my mother had to undergo many interruptions otherwise I would have had more than 10 brothers and sisters.

I also said I love Haumea, it's like an egg surrounded by "babies".

I checked my parents' synastry composite and found a significant fertility theme, they both have Haumea aspects in their natal with Moon, Ceres and Priapus, also Haumea connected to their Saturn and Lust in synastry, making for a mother/father theme. Haumea conj Priapus in composite Leo 8th.

Enneline said MAKEMAKE might show who wears the breeches in the relationship.

and Ceri underlined they all move slowly, so only the theme for each synastry is significant, depending on the personals in the natal.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 02, 2015 07:12 AM            

The haumea sq mars does not promise good things...

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posted August 02, 2015 07:19 AM            

good article here;
http://darkstarastrology.com/eris/

my opinion so far is that Eris in synastry shows what "pushes our buttons" for good or bad, and what kind of buttons we talking about.

posted August 02, 2015 07:21 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I just checked my own natal and it is sad
Haumea is widely conjunct my saturn (by 6 deg) in the end of my second house and squares my mars and biquintiles my mc and sextiles widely my venus and strongly my asc.

The haumea sq mars does not promise good things...

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I just checked the synastry of a guy i like. His makemake is conjunct my lilith. I tames my wild side, i already noticed that So mabye I am right with makemake showing the boss in the relationship.

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Makemake the tamer, I like that.

posted August 02, 2015 07:28 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
ERIS IN SYNASTRY

good article here;
http://darkstarastrology.com/eris/

my opinion so far is that Eris in synastry shows what "pushes our buttons" for good or bad, and what kind of buttons we talking about.

Just one of the possible meanings though.

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posted August 02, 2015 07:30 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
ERIS IN SYNASTRY

good article here;
http://darkstarastrology.com/eris/

my opinion so far is that Eris in synastry shows what "pushes our buttons" for good or bad, and what kind of buttons we talking about.

Just one of the possible meanings though.

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posted August 02, 2015 07:37 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Maybe Eris shows where someone can become warlike. And so in synastry it can show in what theme someone is not willing to give in. Do you get me?
Also, if the woman's eris makes hard aspects to the mans' personal planets it can mean that he finds her sometimes too dominant- well, it would depend on his natal. Some men like that

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I think they first named her Xena
Well, yes, I believe something similar: "pushing buttons" can also mean something we are willing to go to war for...or against, even a little war. It's a stimulation point. Practically, the Trojan War was a consequence of Eris's act of revenge, because she felt humiliated.

posted August 02, 2015 07:40 AM            

I think we got it:

Eris = warlike, push buttons, etc.
makemake = tamer and/or boss
haumea = fertility

posted August 02, 2015 07:44 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Enneline:
i have eris exactly conj my mc in aries

I think we got it:

Eris = warlike, push buttons, etc.
makemake = tamer and/or boss
haumea = fertility

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something like that, a good starting point

Fiorenza (in the article) also calls Makemake the "strategist" (of the couple, in our case)

and also connects it to the "search for the golden egg" - I have to think about this more - since it is a Bird deity

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 02, 2015 07:49 AM            

You could do well in the army too

posted August 02, 2015 07:54 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
With Eris on MC in Aries, Enneline, you can easily start a global war

You could do well in the army too

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I have ceres there too. So i would be a great president fighting for peace for my people

posted August 02, 2015 08:01 AM            

This could give her an additional fixity, especially since it crosses Saturn/ASC/DSC.
-> you don't like any interventions concerning your personality and your relationships and anything that has to do with your saturn - you would fight against.

It could mean Saturn is a sensitive spot for me, and that I express my Eris nature quite naturally, but not necessarily in a rush Arian like manner, because of Saturn.
-> where is your saturn?

It trines Moon in Leo and NN in Sag, so it probably gives strong emotional fire involvement in what I do, everything related to NN.
-> absolutely! And your feelings are intense and warlike now and then

But the most important aspect is an opposition to Mercury in Libra. It is true I get provoked by words (it's very close to my Aries Chiron in 3rd) and I can be provocative myself, verbally. I suppose it can give an irritable nature, with Mercury, bu the Saturn square and the flowing trine keeps it in check.-> yes you can control your words but on the other hand saturn gives the structure to use your words in a warlike manner. Like you think "how can I express that in the most intense way"?

posted August 02, 2015 08:01 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have ceres there too. So i would be a great president fighting for peace for my people

But if makemake is the strategist (and I still think of "bossy" when i think of makemake), it could also mean that makemake is the manipulator

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All creator gods have to be yes, I think so.

Honestly, it also makes me think of the marvelous Papageno- Papagena duet

posted August 02, 2015 08:08 AM            

yep good point, it shows loving it.

This could give her an additional fixity, especially since it crosses Saturn/ASC/DSC.
-> you don't like any interventions concerning your personality and your relationships and anything that has to do with your saturn - you would fight against.

It could mean Saturn is a sensitive spot for me, and that I express my Eris nature quite naturally, but not necessarily in a rush Arian like manner, because of Saturn.
-> where is your saturn?

good point. Saturn conj DSC 1 deg

It trines Moon in Leo and NN in Sag, so it probably gives strong emotional fire involvement in what I do, everything related to NN.
-> absolutely! And your feelings are intense and warlike now and then

But the most important aspect is an opposition to Mercury in Libra. It is true I get provoked by words (it's very close to my Aries Chiron in 3rd) and I can be provocative myself, verbally. I suppose it can give an irritable nature, with Mercury, bu the Saturn square and the flowing trine keeps it in check.-> yes you can control your words but on the other hand saturn gives the structure to use your words in a warlike manner. Like you think "how can I express that in the most intense way"?

good point again. Saturn is wise, but also stubborn and harsh and accepts no interference or subjugation. After all, Eris is a "personal freedom" point, it says, don't step on my boundaries, don't provoke me, you will see the warrior in me, something like that

posted August 02, 2015 08:15 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
All creator gods have to be yes, I think so.

Honestly, it also makes me think of the marvelous Papageno- Papagena duet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87UE2GC5db0

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hahahahaha

posted August 02, 2015 08:20 AM            

UNLESS

we consider Moon's fixed cross: opp LILITH hehe and sq MC/IC shhhhhhh

I think this is a creative and fertile aspect as well, since Makemake is a creator bird god making lots of eggs

I think I can be a good tamer, combining S&M with faking gentleness - the MT

posted August 02, 2015 08:33 AM            

I think we that pattern you can easily become the bossy manipulator in the relationship especially verbally
and you will be the boss in the relationship- doesn't matter how hard you'd try not to be
But with that little triangle it shows you would do it in a nice way but mercury = words + neptune = illusions, you would be invincible in verbal arguments.

posted August 02, 2015 08:37 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Enneline:

hahahaha we don't have Christmas right now, the wish was the father of the thought

I think we that pattern you can easily become the bossy manipulator in the relationship especially verbally
and you will be the boss in the relationship- doesn't matter how hard you'd try not to be
But with that little triangle it shows you would do it in a nice way but mercury = words + neptune = illusions, you would be invincible in verbal arguments.

My makemake is unaspected. In leo in 2h my makemake does not make any aspects except a square to my desc in capricorn

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arrrghhh you had to denounce me...