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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 09, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...in synastry and composite, explaining them with cards: Tarot and Lenormand and...etc.

We have noticed personal Tarot spreads reflect astrological aspects. The same story seems to be told with different sets of symbols and images.

Enneline's concept, for some reason she wanted me to open the thread...always happening with us Virgos sniff sniff hahahahaha


Card imagery can help understanding what an aspect is about, how it plays out, its impact, what it means.

OK, let's try!


Let's start with a classic one: how about my Venus in Virgo 8th sq his Mars in Gem 9th? How does it play out, what's the energy here?


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posted August 09, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, the next thread will be opened by me

Okay, i will do it for you, will be right back

Could you pls ask how does the saturn/nn stuff play out with me being open to affairs? Is it that i am just going to meet men who don't want to play with me (like destiny) or are my (unconscious) actions responsible for this unsatisfying result? We just assume that they are into me....hahahaha

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posted August 09, 2015 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
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Let's start with a classic one: how about my Venus in Virgo 8th sq his Mars in Gem 9th? How does it play out, what's the energy here?

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for the general energy and effect i got: justice 6 of swords emperor
I know the traditional reading would be different but i read it as follows: his mars in gem in 9h doesn't make it committed. He is always thinking abotu pros and cons and wants to wander around and playing (hey, i am definitely a mars in gem ) but with you he doesnt. This "weighing up" stuff (justice) leaves (6 of swords) the emperor (him). this is what I had to think. And i think it is true considering your venus in virgo in 8h


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posted August 09, 2015 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
for the general energy and effect i got: justice 6 of swords emperor
I know the traditional reading would be different but i read it as follows: his mars in gem in 9h doesn't make it committed. He is always thinking abotu pros and cons and wants to wander around and playing (hey, i am definitely a mars in gem ) but with you he doesnt. This "weighing up" stuff (justice) leaves (6 of swords) the emperor (him). this is what I had to think. And i think it is true considering your venus in virgo in 8h



I didn't get it
what do you mean: leaves the emperor?

What I see here is the idea of partnership (Justice + 6 of Swords), like a swing you know, taking turns, total balance, and also the vibe of a marital aspect ( I am surprised it's not more erotic and romantic - apart from 6 of sw, quite a romantic card) plus being an important aspect of the chart: because of Emperor, dominating the chart. Also, him feeling like a man with this aspect. Still I would have pulled an additional card on the Emperor: does he want to dominate? what else comes with Emperor?

I also have to disagree with you, not every Gem Mars is casual and a flirt, and 9th house is after all, the house of having a goal, a focus, an ideal, being very committed. In his case, the description with playing and fooling around, keeping options open doesn't fit with his personality, maybe because of the Kite with Pluto and Venus this Mars has.


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posted August 09, 2015 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 of swords can also indicate something that is always on the move, something continuously new, fresh, a very dynamic aspect (well, it is). Still, I am puzzled by these cards, still need to think about them.

Anyone has any other ideas on what this spread could mean for Venus sq Mars?

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posted August 09, 2015 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I didn't get it
what do you mean: leaves the emperor?

What I see here is the idea of partnership (Justice + 6 of Swords), like a swing you know, taking turns, total balance, and also the vibe of a marital aspect ( I am surprised it's not more erotic and romantic - apart from 6 of sw, quite a romantic card) plus being an important aspect of the chart: because of Emperor, dominating the chart. Also, him feeling like a man with this aspect. Still I would have pulled an additional card on the Emperor: does he want to dominate? what else comes with Emperor?

I also have to disagree with you, not every Gem Mars is casual and a flirt, and 9th house is after all, the house of having a goal, a focus, an ideal, being very committed. In his case, the description with playing and fooling around, keeping options open doesn't fit with his personality, maybe because of the Kite with Pluto and Venus this Mars has.


With you he is sure. I think from this spread he was very picky before meeting you and now this attitude leaves him when being with you actually it is quite a romantic spread

and yes i agree with the emperor being the (dominant man) but this is already proven with his mars sq your venus; he feels manly in your presence,
the clarifier for emperor is ace of wands wow, great, he feels like the sexually arosen emperor

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posted August 09, 2015 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Sorry, the next thread will be opened by me

Okay, i will do it for you, will be right back

Could you pls ask how does the saturn/nn stuff play out with me being open to affairs? Is it that i am just going to meet men who don't want to play with me (like destiny) or are my (unconscious) actions responsible for this unsatisfying result? We just assume that they are into me....hahahaha


I am not very clear about this....you want me to ask what this aspect means for your love life, maybe?

Of course, I will, but I told you, from my experience, you will never have casual relationships with this aspect. Why do you desire them, BTW, for what reason? That would be an interesting question to discuss.

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posted August 09, 2015 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean that people like me with mars in gem are all players and ***** - on the contrary. mars is ruled my mercury then but i think mars in gem really want to be convinced before committing. Actually a great amount of them WANT to committ but i think with mars in gem you are very picky about picking (mercury ruled = you think a lot) and so someone special needs to come across

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posted August 09, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
With you he is sure. I think from this spread he was very picky before meeting you and now this attitude leaves him when being with you actually it is quite a romantic spread

and yes i agree with the emperor being the (dominant man) but this is already proven with his mars sq your venus; he feels manly in your presence,
the clarifier for emperor is ace of wands wow, great, he feels like the sexually arosen emperor


ahh OK, I see it now it makes sense

Thank you!

It's about feeling like a man, giving stability and structure and, last but not least....rowing the boat!!!!! hahahahaha

actually, 6 of sw is quite sexy because of this


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posted August 09, 2015 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I didn't mean that people like me with mars in gem are all players and ***** - on the contrary. mars is ruled my mercury then but i think mars in gem really want to be convinced before committing. Actually a great amount of them WANT to committ but i think with mars in gem you are very picky about picking (mercury ruled = you think a lot) and so someone special needs to come across

great point! it is true! because it is the perfect Mars of my chart, I have met quite a few, and indeed they are picky...especially when it comes to someone who stimulates them mentally, they like smart people, moving and changing a lot.

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posted August 09, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am not very clear about this....you want me to ask what this aspect means for your love life, maybe?


yes i mean, am i prone to meet men who don't want to play with me (like fate atropos has her fingers in with that aspect) or do my actions cause that?

No thanks, i know why i want to do something

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posted August 09, 2015 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
great point! it is true! because it is the perfect Mars of my chart, I have met quite a few, and indeed they are picky...especially when it comes to someone who stimulates them mentally, they like smart people, moving and changing a lot.


yes, now you got me

this picky thing, this thinking and weighing up (justice) left(6 of swords) him (emperor). this is what i had to think when i saw the cards but of course a spread can have different meanings and all of them are correct

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posted August 09, 2015 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I was asking of you, but maybe it is private

Anyway, what do you want me to ask: how this aspect manifests in relationships?

I'm not clear about this...or you want to know why men don't want to play with you lol? (although, I am telling you, it's this aspect) But I will ask everything you want

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posted August 09, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
yes i mean, am i prone to meet men who don't want to play with me (like fate atropos has her fingers in with that aspect) or do my actions cause that?

No thanks, i know why i want to do something


is this the question? fate vs personal actions?

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posted August 09, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
is this the question? fate vs personal actions?

yes

do you have other questions?

or do you want me to pull more cards on that aspect? you know that i have different decks

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posted August 09, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, no, I have plenty more

Let your cards describe Sun opp Sun....let's start from the core

Sun in Virgo 8th opp Sun in Pisces 6th

brb with your question...

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posted August 09, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, I think this is an awesome idea of a thread, describing astrological aspects with cards; and I will keep the combinations, for future reference and comparison

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posted August 09, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok

is it personal actions, something you can change?

King of Cups 5 of Sw Hierophant King of Wands

also: 5 of pentacles Knight of wands


then: is it your Saturn/NN? (fate, lessons you have to learn?)

King of Cups Queen of Wands 9 of Swords Magician

also: Ace of Cups + 8 of pentacles

definitely the second, IMO, but it also shows you need to overcome fear and insecurity (9 of sw + magician) in order to find love (king of Cups). Become the Queen of Wands: self-confident. Saturn is insecurity, we all know. With 8 of pentacles, the only way for you is:


showing diligence
making an effort
working hard
applying yourself totally
being absorbed in a project
dedicating yourself to a task
plugging away
producing steady results

increasing knowledge
taking a course
learning a new craft or skill
receiving training
pursuing greater understanding
researching
finding out the facts
increasing expertise

paying attention to detail
being painstaking
being extra careful
approaching a task methodically
getting down to the nitty-gritty
handling all the loose ends
checking and rechecking
noticing the fine points


in love matters (pretty much what I described)

The first spread shows a lot of men, and a path of defeat. So your actions probably need to be aligned to what you are here for, to your NN/Saturn path. Otherwise, you may encounter repeated "defeat" from man after man.
The first spread also shows me you are tempted to reject kind, tender, soft, loving men (King of Cups) and prefer more difficult, dashy types: the wands. Hierophant leads us to Saturn: it's an additional advice to take the classical, serious, traditional, conformist path.


BTW Enne 8 of pentacles is Virgo, so your Saturn in Virgo
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posted August 09, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why do you want to experience casual flings? if it is not too private, I understand if it is

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posted August 09, 2015 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, no, I have plenty more

Let your cards describe Sun opp Sun....let's start from the core

Sun in Virgo 8th opp Sun in Pisces 6th

brb with your question...


okay, for this question i pulled:
10 of pentacles 8 of pentacles 4 of pentacles 6 of cups the world

the 10 of pentacles must have feeled like family (=completing each other with sun opp sun), a wonderful happy union, the 8 of pentacles provides stability and the will to work for the relationship (your sun in virgo and his 6h), the 4 of pents is a bit the hiding couples love to do to keep things tense (your 8h sun and his pisces sun) , the 6 of cups is simply wonderful (great for his pisces sun) and the world is simply about admiring you (since my world cards shows a hot young and naked woman ) but also about any possibilities, expanding horizonts, feeling wonderful, going abroad, etc. (your 8h combined with his 6h)

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posted August 09, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
But why do you want to experience casual flings? if it is not too private, I understand if it is


It's not a real will (i am just open), actually i reject most of the offers (99,99999%) but i want to have fun while waiting for Mr. Right

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posted August 09, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ok

is it personal actions, something you can change?

King of Cups 5 of Sw Hierophant King of Wands

also: 5 of pentacles Knight of wands


then: is it your Saturn/NN? (fate, lessons you have to learn?)

King of Cups Queen of Wands 9 of Swords Magician

also: Ace of Cups + 8 of pentacles

definitely the second, IMO, but it also shows you need to overcome fear and insecurity (9 of sw + magician) in order to find love (king of Cups). Become the Queen of Wands: self-confident. Saturn is insecurity, we all know. With 8 of pentacles, the only way for you is:


showing diligence
making an effort
working hard
applying yourself totally
being absorbed in a project
dedicating yourself to a task
plugging away
producing steady results

increasing knowledge
taking a course
learning a new craft or skill
receiving training
pursuing greater understanding
researching
finding out the facts
increasing expertise

paying attention to detail
being painstaking
being extra careful
approaching a task methodically
getting down to the nitty-gritty
handling all the loose ends
checking and rechecking
noticing the fine points


in love matters (pretty much what I described)

The first spread shows a lot of men, and a path of defeat. So your actions probably need to be aligned to what you are here for, to your NN/Saturn path. Otherwise, you may encounter repeated "defeat" from man after man.
The first spread also shows me you are tempted to reject kind, tender, soft, loving men (King of Cups) and prefer more difficult, dashy types: the wands. Hierophant leads us to Saturn: it's an additional advice to take the classical, serious, traditional, conformist path.


Thank you wow, that was a lot of efforts again thank you, my favorite psychic

okay, i am just damned to be serious & spiritual

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posted August 09, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
okay, for this question i pulled:
10 of pentacles 8 of pentacles 4 of pentacles 6 of cups the world

the 10 of pentacles must have feeled like family (=completing each other with sun opp sun), a wonderful happy union, the 8 of pentacles provides stability and the will to work for the relationship (your sun in virgo and his 6h), the 4 of pents is a bit the hiding couples love to do to keep things tense (your 8h sun and his pisces sun) , the 6 of cups is simply wonderful (great for his pisces sun) and the world is simply about admiring you (since my world cards shows a hot young and naked woman ) but also about any possibilities, expanding horizonts, feeling wonderful, going abroad, etc. (your 8h combined with his 6h)


WOW I am beyond impressed! the cards you are able to pull, Enneline

First of all, I am impressed by 4 of pentacles, it represents: me! me! me! hahaha I mean someone trying to affirm their point of view, themselves (the Sun) also it is unbelievable fit for an opposition: two opposing POV trying to form a team. However, it is a positive card, signifying a very stable foundation and the ability to BUILD something together, which is obvious from the other cards as well. It shows being reliable, but also possessive with each other, I guess (it's a card of possessiveness, of "you belong to me"

Then of course...unbelievable!8 of pentacles is VIRGO and 6 of cups is PISCES

The result looks very good. Thank you, amazing spread!

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posted August 09, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even the two figures in 10 of pents are face to face (just like Sun opp Sun)...I mean it is unbelievable what you could pull!!

and so are the figures in 6 of cups

the spread says: "you are everything to me"

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posted August 09, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
It's not a real will (i am just open), actually i reject most of the offers (99,99999%) but i want to have fun while waiting for Mr. Right

You're welcome
Why not looking for him already, BTW?

Do you want a synastry aspect? or another natal aspect?

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