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Topic: Saturn conj Asc Synastry
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manderin
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From: New York, NY USA
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posted August 11, 2015 01:18 AM
  
It's generally said that this conjunction tends to be bad news, primarily for the asc person. But what if Saturn here makes positive aspects to other planets? I'd imagine in that case the conjunction will be experienced as good.IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted August 11, 2015 12:57 PM
Sorry, Conjunct is hard aspect in this case...
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athenaia
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posted August 11, 2015 01:33 PM
What aspect of the chart does Saturn rule for the native Saturn person? Is it well aspected in the natal? Is the ASC person Saturnine themselves? If not they would probably grow to feel very suffocated under the energy, but if they are Cap/Saturn influenced, it may fall under the "stabilizing" category rather then the "doom and gloom" category. IP: Logged |
Soltze
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posted August 11, 2015 01:47 PM
Not sure...I like a guy with a cap ASC. My Saturn is right on top of his ASC.
The amount of Saturn between charts is absolutely ridiculous and I don't see it going anywhere.We are so awkward around each other you wouldn't believe it...its attraction mixed with "danger" light pannels in my brain IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted August 11, 2015 03:12 PM
In a synastry characterized as overall positive by IQ, my ascendant is conjunct my partner's Saturn. Here's what he had to say about that aspect in particular, and some other tidbits for context...
"His Saturn conjuncts your Ascendant, making it most likely that you were married to him or bore him a child in the immediate past lifetime too.
Your VESTA is also conjunct his Saturn, this indicates sexual encounters outside of marriage in the past. Either he was a lover or you were his mistress. The Ascendants are same, and since it is Scorpio, the sexual intensity is going to be very powerful. The Moons are exactly opposite, this is a positive giving complementary emotional states. When one of you is upset, the other can lift the mood. His Sun trine your Moon is a comforting aspect, allows the development of love and harmony without impracticality as both are Earth Signs. ...
Your Saturn is very strong in his chart. Your Saturn makes a weak trine to his JUNO, a sextile to his Pluto and Saturn, plus a trine to his Venus. This is very positive, both of you can earn good karma by loving one another and giving the relationship a chance in this incarnation.
... Overall, it is a positive Synastry with enough potential to tackle the negative aspects. The Composite will explain how the relationship will work out."
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yungang_grotto
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posted August 11, 2015 03:16 PM
I certainly feel his Saturn on my ascendant. At times it is rather heavy. I think the fact that it is also on his natal ascendant tempers the effects in that he is aware of the consequences of a too-dour Saturn... and we can discuss it... It is worth noting that my moon-Neptune and my Saturn are all in Capricorn, and our Saturns are exactly sextile... I don't feel like he's a wet blanket at all, we have so much fun and I feel like I can be fully myself with him in a way I don't with many people at all. I feel deeply appreciated and understood and seen-- on many many levels... The understanding between us is intrinsic and developing rapidly, I feel very secure also. It's important to feel appreciated and I would be lying if I said I didn't sometimes question whether he likes me--but I get daily irrefutable evidence that he does, and I think it's good for me to learn not to need constant validation. The nature of his love for me is very steady--not always demonstrative--and certainly he can be hard on me. .. For the most part I really appreciate the effect he has on my journey involving maturing my self-expression. To simply characterize an aspect as hard is fairly simplistic... Yes it can be hard to have this aspect. Saturn can also be incredibly rewarding. We must strive when interpreting any single aspect to pay homage to the complexity of astrology and individual people, and make provisions for the liklihood that this one aspect is not the whole story. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted August 11, 2015 04:07 PM
It might be worth noting that many of us will not take kindly to somebody else "maturing" our own self-expression--it is best coming from someone we are quite certain loves and likes us... Otherwise it is likely to feel intolerably judgmental and restrictive. If it's really for our higher good though, and we know it is mainly coming from a place of love--the maturity of the Saturn person is a crucial component to this--we can accept it with humility and grace... And really "grow up"...IP: Logged |
Soltze
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posted August 11, 2015 05:55 PM
Very interesting, I don't know much about karmic astrology. You're really lucky you have Saturn making good aspects like trines.
In my case its our Venuses and Saturns squaring each other DW...Chiron stuff...South Node issues as in my Mars in his SN...his Pluto in my SN
I like some Saturn in sinastry since I really want a stable person who can be a good influence on me but...my case is a bit difficult to put it mildly.
Maybe I'll find a easier "Mr.Saturn" somewhere :-D IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted August 11, 2015 07:42 PM
Ah... It is good to know what you want. reminds me of a song my friend wrote "you see me standin here, with
six hundred friends
seven hundred friends-what a team.
And I am loved by many here
n it's
just love I want
just love I want
do I dare dream?" IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
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posted August 11, 2015 09:33 PM
I had SATURN conjunct ASC once. Worst karmic relationship of my life. It's taken years to heal that abuse. Looking back, it all seems so pointless, too. Wasted years of my life. I know, I know that it wasn't. But sometimes, seeing where I am now, it seems it is. I should've left long before I actually had. But then everything unfolds for a reason as and when it does, and we must simply trust the process. Tough sometimes. I also have SATURN conjunct ASC with my mother. Her SATURN. That's a bit different. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted October 04, 2015 09:38 PM
Gonna just revise my stance here and repeat the bit about "intolerably restrictive."Tyranny is another word that comes to mind... IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted October 05, 2015 03:17 AM
The saturn of a whole generation sits right on my asc.I've met a few "almost"  romantic interests who have their saturns on my asc. Unfortunately it never made feel well- rather critized, oppressed, etc. than appreciated. I know it's a sign for long-term committment if other aspects are favorable but for me it has always been a dealbreaker so far. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted October 07, 2015 01:32 AM
^^good to know, thank you for sharing. I'm beginning to think it really is a hopeless aspect, as far as being happy goes... Saturn really doesn't realize how oppressive they are being it seems! A vedic astrologer I consulted considered it an absolute deal breaker, even with other positive aspects.. said i would be miserable. I was. In a somewhat subtle but all-pervading way... I guess because his Saturn was conjunct my Asc from the 12th house side, by 2 degrees... if it were a degree ahead of the Ascendant it would NOT have been subtle... and perhaps less difficult, but I doubt it. And Auby, I can imagine perhaps why you stayed so long.. the Saturn person thinks nothing, it seems, of guilting you into doing things which you'd rather not, and their attempts to convince you to act in ways which will suit them are so compelling because it's Saturn RIGHT on your Ascendant telling you what to do and leaving not an inch to figure it out for yourself! ! Impossible! I couldn't leave this last relationship until he had left town and I called my mom and she said 'tell him not to come back' when she heard I was unhappy and afraid (feeling tyrannized in such a subtle and complete way, with his refusal to listen when I said I was unhappy, as if we should just forge on and this is the way life is)... .... So anyway I'm now one of those hunters, collecting stories and becoming ever more convinced that it's a real doozy....
would like to know if anyone has any examples at all of this working out. doubting it. IP: Logged |
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