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Aubyanne
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posted August 11, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who may be curious; this synastry is of a multidimensional relationship with a karmic debt to end a cycle of violence from other lifelines in the present lifeline.

It's a complicated position for twin flames, but we all decide to tackle the ultimate pursuit of unconditional love and oneness in our own time via various lenses. This, apparently, is ours. We chose a doozy.

I'm happy to discuss what I know thus far. It's taken me a long time to get here. I'm even happier to help those who might be undergoing a similar experience, or find themselves in such type of relationship.

I should put forward a disclaimer and clarification:

There is not, nor has there ever been, violence or abuse in the present lifeline. There is mutual respect, unconditional love, honesty, and trust. It has been so from the very start.

It was quickly understood that the karmic debts and violence patterns are from alternate lifelines we're mending -- known to many as 'past lives'. The debt is being repaid with the karma being cleared in the present.

It is, at times, the darkest debts which bring the greatest capacity for love, forgiveness, and healing.

Thank you all for taking this illuminating, at times harrowing, intensely cathartic, and ever-unfolding, journey with me. It's ... truly incredible.


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Aubyanne
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posted August 11, 2015 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D'oh! I forgot Vengeance. That's a big one.

My apologies to Tisiphone, who can't be too thrilled that I neglected to mention the core of the damage and debt. Heh.

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Faith
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posted August 12, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...

* A draconic sun conjunction is pretty huge.
* Red's dr moon-Uranus conjunct blue's Jupiter and tropical sun.
* Red's dr Venus conjunct blue's tr moon
* Mars conjunct Pluto-sun-Lilith
* Neptune conjunct moon-Mars-Uranus <3
* AC conjunct IC is HUGE
* MC conjunct Saturn-Jupiter
* Both have a luminary-BML conjunction
* Karma-node both ways; Karma-Vertex in draconic...HMMMM

So much interesting stuff here.

Pardon me for missing the point about the violent past...just wanted to focus on the positive first.

Not to be too greedy but is the composite forthcoming here?

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athenaia
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posted August 12, 2015 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second the composite request!

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yungang_grotto
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posted August 12, 2015 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aubyanne
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posted August 12, 2015 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... bother; I know I've made a few composites since then, but I can't seem to find any.

In the meantime, here's this one from a bit back (prior to my website being hacked):

I'll create a new one shortly.

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Faith
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posted August 12, 2015 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where are the aspect lines?

Egads now I have to work at this.

Well we're all gawking at Sun-Venus-Jupiter, I think?

NN on the sweet Gem-Cancer Cusp, conjunct Atropos and square Karma. Scorpio Mars square moon. Nowwww I see why you took a dark look at it.

Still, I love all the angle conjunctions, love Pluto-Vesta in the 12H...and is the composite ASC-Uranus-Destinn on his DSC? Opposing Chiron-Vertex WOW.

Composite IC-Eros on my 5 Aqua Mercury so it's fitting that I'm looking at this!

Oh and now I see what you mean about Carollian astrology...that is almost too weird! Down the rabbit hole...

Thanks for posting the chart!

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Aubyanne
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posted August 13, 2015 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! Sorry, Faith! I always think they look so cluttered that way.

Here's a composite I've most recently uploaded. I'm always a little miffed that it doesn't look as amazing as it often feels.

Anything in particular you'd like to look at? You're really sweet to take the time to share your insights and thoughts. I'm also pretty surprised it doesn't have more to it. Though, iQ has said that a very occupied 11H is one of the biggest indicators of it.

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posted August 13, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auby,

what did IQ say in regards to the 11th house in composite?

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posted August 13, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne,could you please take a look at my latest thread in this forum.Thanks.

And sorry for derailling the thread.

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Faith
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posted August 13, 2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Here's a composite I've most recently uploaded. I'm always a little miffed that it doesn't look as amazing as it often feels.

Oh but I sympathize. Remember, that's what I was complaining about on my holy grail thread.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Anything in particular you'd like to look at?

I missed the yod...if that's a yod. I know the apex is supposed to be the fastest moving planet in a real yod, but what else do you call it when one planet is quincunx two planets that are sextile to each other??

So, Saturn in Cancer at the apex, with Neptune and the moon (and Eros) at the base.

Could that be, substantiating (Saturn) emotions (Cancer) that emerge from the fusion of mystical,larger-than-life dreaminess (Sag Neptune) and eccentric and brilliant feelings (Aqua moon-Eros)?

And then holding onto those feelings despite the deepest challenges of partnership (square from Libra Pluto.) ?

Sabian PHASE 98 (CANCER 8°): A GROUP OF RABBITS DRESSED IN HUMAN CLOTHES WALK AS IF ON PARADE.

Lol, Alice in Wonderland again. And this looks like it happens more or less on your draconic moon-Jupiter conjunction.

Well I don't want to analyze this too much, it feels like I'm imposing....but I will look out for your own interpretations of it, as it's a very interesting story.

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posted August 13, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Auby,

what did IQ say in regards to the 11th house in composite?


He's expressed that it's how we can best clear karma, and shows the couple's potential for gain together -- good they can do, and even success they can achieve. He's noticed it'll be active when a couple is stronger together than they are apart.

That was what really got him about the composite with my karmic soulmate (Fate) is the lack of any 11H. It's all 1H, 12H.

Here's what iQ said directly:

'You both just need to increase warmth for one another and understand that you both are meant to be partners for the rest of your life.'

MOON and EROS are in Aquarius, after all. 'Warmth' isn't exactly something we do naturally. Heh!

So when he'd seen the JUNO-VALENTINE-MERC in the 11H, he was really surprised not to see what he'd come to determine was a Twin Flame Signature in the composite itself. We've had to go back to the drawing board on a lot of the research for this reason.

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posted August 13, 2015 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Well I don't want to analyze this too much, it feels like I'm imposing....but I will look out for your own interpretations of it, as it's a very interesting story.

No! Please! Faith, go to town. I've already been investigating this thing for years. I love a pair of fresh eyes. Not imposing in the least!

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yungang_grotto
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posted August 14, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from.Auby:
"Here's a composite I've most recently uploaded. I'm always a little miffed that it doesn't look as amazing as it often feels."

I dunno, it looks pretty amazing to me... Sun Venus Jupiter is nothing to sniff at!!! Sometimes looking for grandiose things is unnecessary. The subtlety and complexity of the manifestation of such a positive combination would be infinite, all on its own...

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posted August 14, 2015 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auby,

"He's noticed it'll be active when a couple is stronger together than they are apart."
That is interesting.

Well I had to ask cause it always sort of puzzled me to find the Sun-Mercury-Neptune (plus Sappho) in the 11th house.
Of course all disposited by Jupiter in 5th.

Oh I forgot BACCHUS is in 11th house as well exact trine ARIADNE in Leo in 7th house close to the Karma-Ambrosia-conjunction there.

Bachhus-Ariadne, or Dionysos-Ariadne always spoke to me very strongly, though intriguingly I only "remembered" them (or was reminded of them) when he showed up in my life.

Nevertheless that Bacchus is in 11th house as well, just as Siva is, too.


Anyway that mercury-Neptune-Sappho link and of course Sun in that house got my attention but I never knew what to really make of these, plus Jupiter, dispositing all these planets, and being in 5th house. In fact our composite has a bucket formation, with Moon on 22 Cap in 12th and Saturn on 21 Leo in 7th as rim planets (and yes I do notice Saturn disposits Moon. ) and this 5th house Jupiter is the handle planet, the one through which all the energy in this composite gets channelled. It is at least interesting to me.

"So when he'd seen the JUNO-VALENTINE-MERC in the 11H, he was really surprised not to see what he'd come to determine was a Twin Flame Signature in the composite itself. "
a packed 7th house?


Juno-Valentine-MErc sounds delicious though.
Well interestingly I think that beside the Jupiter dispositing all that 11th house energy in my composite, aspectwise Juno-Valentine is the backbone of our composite.

It`s an opposition rather than a conjunction (though we are dealing with midpoint charts anyway) and Juno is joined with Alma and Valentine joined with Lust (and Angel), and it is not in 11th house but rather connecting the 4th house with the 10th house.

But what gets me about that Juno-Valentine opposition, is how it becomes the basis for a Grand cross, but also for a trine/sextile based pattern.
Actually Juno is also involved in some Yods and a golden Yod (quintile). It`s placed at a pretty important spot in relation to the other planets and asteroids.

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