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athenegoddess
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posted August 12, 2015 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun/Valentine is conjunct his NN and my Moon/Neptune is conjunct his SN/Eros.

Would you say he is very affected by me?

I know how it is when someone's planets conjunct the North or South Node and the person always changes the Node person's destiny. But having My Sun and Moon conjunct his Nodal axis seems very significant.

This is actually a lunar eclipse that we create together. I would say that is very rare.

Anyone ever experienced this?

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posted August 13, 2015 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say. I'm curious as to orb.

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posted August 13, 2015 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG,

Faith had a thread on exactly that a while ago. I think she shares this with a friend.

However I do agree, that is very rare, yes.

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posted August 13, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'd say. I'm curious as to orb.


My Sun/Moon/Neptune are at 8 and His NN is at 4.

I know 4 orb but I was thinking about this and when there is an orb from node to sun/moon during an eclipse the eclipse still happens and is powerful.

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posted August 13, 2015 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
AG,

Faith had a thread on exactly that a while ago. I think she shares this with a friend.

However I do agree, that is very rare, yes.


What's even weirder is his progressed Sun is currently at 8 Capricorn so that is making a Solar Eclipse with my Moon/Neptune and his NN/SN.


Could progressed Sun conjunct Moon be a synastry timer?


When I think of him I see him transform into a see a certain being from middle earth named Adama. I don't know what it means but maybe he and I are connected to middle earth and have known each other before. The sense of love is really powerful but at the same time unexplained.

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posted August 13, 2015 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say if you're feeling it, then, it's obviously active, right?

I've got the same with my father, but reversed:

His SUN is conjunct my SNODE, and MOON conjunct my NNODE. Also wide. 3º-4º.

Even more interesting is that it's a kinda double-aspect; my SUN is conjunct his (and my mother's) SNODEs (0º and 1º).

Interestingly enough, my husband and his daughter have a similar thing, too:

NNODE conjunct SUN
SUN conjunct NNODE
MOON conjunct SNODE

Obviously, they have SNODE conjunct NNODE, so their NODES are overlaying each other.

They are two peas in a pod. But they need me to keep everything running smoothly, as they both get lost in the world they create.

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posted August 13, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Could progressed Sun conjunct Moon be a synastry timer?

Depends. I met my twin when his pMOON was conjunct my pSUN, and our relationship first began with his pMOON conjunct my MOON.

My pSUN will be progressed my MOON (0º) next year. I've heard it's a deeply transformative time when you 'come fully into your own'.

In terms of synastry timing, I'd say pMOON and VERTEX. I've found that to be very prominent.

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posted August 13, 2015 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'd say if you're feeling it, then, it's obviously active, right?

I've got the same with my father, but reversed:

His SUN is conjunct my SNODE, and MOON conjunct my NNODE. Also wide. 3º-4º.

Even more interesting is that it's a kinda double-aspect; my SUN is conjunct his (and my mother's) SNODEs (0º and 1º).

Interestingly enough, my husband and his daughter have a similar thing, too:

NNODE conjunct SUN
SUN conjunct NNODE
MOON conjunct SNODE

Obviously, they have SNODE conjunct NNODE, so their NODES are overlaying each other.

They are two peas in a pod. But they need me to keep everything running smoothly, as they both get lost in the world they create.



Wow that's a profound connection then if it is shared with a Mother or Father.

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posted August 13, 2015 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Wow that's a profound connection then if it is shared with a Mother or Father.

It is. My parents are Twins, actually. Destiny led them together for the long-haul. She made a huge impact upon religious bigotry when she received a dispensation from my father's church so that they could marry without vowing to raise any children they had in the Catholic faith. The priest was impressed, and wished her genuinely well, believing that she has 'as good of an understanding of the path of Christ that could be expected'. HIGH praise.

She went on to become a luminary in metaphysics throughout the '70s, and semi-retired when I was born, instead opening a therapy practise out of our home. I was raised in a very spiritual household, as a result. My father can detect problems in a person's aura, where they are weak or ill, and has tremendous healing ability. My mother is clairvoyant, precognitive and a dimensional traveller. She's a very powerful energetic practitioner with an Atlantean lineage (mostly). There are very few individuals with her level of protective, regenerative and healing ability on the planet at any given moment. She's absolutely exceptional.

As a family, we're deeply connected on all levels. My mother 'knew' when it was time for me to be born, and they didn't even have to try! Well, just once. I was conceived in New Mexico, in one of the more beautiful parts of the state. My father says it was a truly otherworldly experience, and my mother began dreaming of me the next week. That's how she knew when she'd conceived.

We're a pretty cool family.

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posted August 14, 2015 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:


Could progressed Sun conjunct Moon be a synastry timer?



Absolutely. Yes.
(as always it will not happen with every progressed Sun conjunct Moon, but it IS a very significant one.
Even more so if both of you are in a peak moment of your own lunar progressed cycle (conjunction, opposition,s quare) or close to one.
I also have seen incidences when one person had a 4th harmonic Sun-Moon aspects in progression and the other a trine ors extile. (p to p in this case)

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posted August 14, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But, correct me if I'm wrong, Ceri, isn't pSUN conjunct MOON something of a once-in-a-lifetime deal? I've read it only occurs in 25% of the population besides.

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posted August 14, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does progressed to progressed have an impact?

In October of this year my progressed moon will be at 19 Libra and my BF's progressed sun will be at the exact same degree.

Any thoughts? Thank you!

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posted August 14, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, pSun conjunct nMoon in synastry (or natal) is an absolute one-in-a-lifetime-deal.

What I was referring to additionally to this on top, was the progressed lunar cycle though.
Not sure how often it happens, the pr Sun-Moon-conjunction, every 19 years is that right?

But very often when people get into relationship we find they are at important points of their individual lunar cycle additionally to the fitting synastry.

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posted August 14, 2015 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Absolutely. Yes.
(as always it will not happen with every progressed Sun conjunct Moon, but it IS a very significant one.
Even more so if both of you are in a peak moment of your own lunar progressed cycle (conjunction, opposition,s quare) or close to one.
I also have seen incidences when one person had a 4th harmonic Sun-Moon aspects in progression and the other a trine ors extile. (p to p in this case)



I am currently experiencing Progressed Moon conjunct Natal Moon In Capricorn! Is that what you mean? AND his Progressed Moon is in early Cancer. His Natal Moon is in Aries!

So his Progressed Moon is conjunct my Natal Sun and his Progressed Sun is conjunct my Natal Moon.

My Progressed Moon is conjunct his Progressed Sun.


I have known of him since 2011 but have only recently decided to try to communicate with him and I couldn't find him at first on FB and gave up but then I was able to.

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posted August 14, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It is. My parents are Twins, actually. Destiny led them together for the long-haul. She made a huge impact upon religious bigotry when she received a dispensation from my father's church so that they could marry without vowing to raise any children they had in the Catholic faith. The priest was impressed, and wished her genuinely well, believing that she has 'as good of an understanding of the path of Christ that could be expected'. HIGH praise.

She went on to become a luminary in metaphysics throughout the '70s, and semi-retired when I was born, instead opening a therapy practise out of our home. I was raised in a very spiritual household, as a result. My father can detect problems in a person's aura, where they are weak or ill, and has tremendous healing ability. My mother is clairvoyant, precognitive and a dimensional traveller. She's a very powerful energetic practitioner with an Atlantean lineage (mostly). There are very few individuals with her level of protective, regenerative and healing ability on the planet at any given moment. She's absolutely exceptional.

As a family, we're deeply connected on all levels. My mother 'knew' when it was time for me to be born, and they didn't even have to try! Well, just once. I was conceived in New Mexico, in one of the more beautiful parts of the state. My father says it was a truly otherworldly experience, and my mother began dreaming of me the next week. That's how she knew when she'd conceived.

We're a pretty cool family.


Sounds very Cool!

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posted August 14, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I am currently experiencing Progressed Moon conjunct Natal Moon In Capricorn!"
No that is actually not what I meant.

I meant in your natal pSun to pMoon.

However the placement you mentioned is very significant in its own regard of course.


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posted August 14, 2015 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see. in that case I don't have any Progressed Sun to P Moon aspects but he does.


His progressed Sun Capricorn is opposite his progressed Moon Cancer. Aspecting my Sun Cancer and Moon Capricorn. And its exact.

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posted August 14, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:


His progressed Sun Capricorn is opposite his progressed Moon Cancer. Aspecting my Sun Cancer and Moon Capricorn. And its exact.


That is amazing, and exactly what I want to see.


BTW I think there are more cycles than the lunar one which are important.

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posted August 14, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was talking about this here

"The talk about the Sun-Moon-cycle got me thinking. While Sun-Moon is the very basic one, I was thinking that there might be other cycles being important in terms of relationships.
Sun-Moon
Venus-Mars
r1-r7

but also
Sun-Venus
Moon-Mars
possibly r5-r11

Those combine Yin-Yang-energies with each other and hence are about relating.


I am basically talking about the cycles int he progressed chart itself, but the aspects from progressed to natal might be important as well. In fact I am convinced they are important, but maybe a little less than the progressed cycle. Not sure about that yet though.


About the aspects, I would differentiate between the 4th harmonic aspects and the soft ones.
Both seem to come up when we get ready for a relationship, however, I would call


conjunction - opposition - square "ACTIVE"
and
sextile - trine "PASSIVE"

With that I mean that with the active aspects we feel that inner urgency that pushes us to actively seek out union (though some times there may be a kind of projection going on).

With the passive aspects, there might still be a resonance, but we will not go about it actively; however if an "offer" will be presented to us, we might very well reciprocrate or accept it.

For example I am in a passive Sun-Venus-cycle from progressed to natal at the moment, as my pVenus is sextile nSun.
While I am not really actively searching for love and attraction and appreciation or even pushing for it, it seems to find me in subtle ways, in the form of appreciation and compliments and so on, and I am definitely open to receive some of it.
But it is not as intense as it would be if I were in a Venus-Sun-conjunction I guess.
(though I do believe the fact my natal Moon is right on the midpoint of pSun/Venus might have a little say in this as well).


Apart from these I think there are other cycles as well. I call these

1) Expressivity-cycle:
Sun-Mars
(and Sun-Sun, Mars-Mars, r1-r1 etc.)

dominating Yang energies, we create, we do something with it,g et active, but not necessarily relate to someone


2) Receptivity cycle
Moon-Venus
(moon-moon, venus-venus, r7-r7)

Great for emotional intimacy, receptive to love possibly, but not very active about it

While the relationship cycles already combine Yin-Yang, I do believe something I call RESPONSIVE CYCLES might be important as well, especially if we compare two charts with each other, checking what cycles are present for them.


Probably every relationship cycle has several responsive cycle. For example:

Sun-Moon: Sun-Sun, Moon-Moon
and so on

apart from that of course the double complements are very interesting as well, like

Sun-Venus: Moon-Mars
etc.

for me the primary cycles are Sun-Moon and Venus-Mars, as they combine the Yin-Yang pairing of the corepersonality/ emotional dimension and the sexual dimension with each other.

however the secondary ones will not be less important, just different in that they combine a corepersonality factor with a sexual one.

Sun-Venus however is an attraction or love-cycle for sure.
Moon-Mars seems more primal, and primarily about emotional passion, instinct etc.

Ruler of 1st and 7th house are those of natural partnering, relating.
5th and 11th have to do with the expressing and receiving of love and attraction.


It might be interesting to check which cycles are when present in a couple. if you compare the progressed individual charts side by side (not ven doing synastry at that point).
Just checking what is going on in each one`s life at a given point in time?
Do they have overlapping same or similiar relationship cycles?
If not does one have a relationship cycle, and the other a responsive one?
Are both in an active cycle, or is one in an active one, the other in a passive one?
If not the same cycles do they complement each other?
(like in the case of my parents; who when they met had a pVenus-nSun and pMars-nMoon respectively, plus a pSun-Moon along with a pMoon-nMoon responsive cycle).


After that check up, which probably takes a while. lol. I think it will be important that both partner have synastric aspects to each other`s relationship cycles. Maybe not all, but at least one mutually.


in the example of my parents, my Dad was having a progressed New Moon and my Mum´s pMoon was trining it, and her pSun was square.

Synastrically speaking while I think a strong dynamic aspect is necessary to ignite the spark of an attraction, like Venus-opposite-Mars for example, it might be nice to ease into the softer aspects once the relationship started.
You know starting with a Sun-Moon-square can be thrilling, but who can really live on thrills forever?
A trine following a sparkly beginning might bring a smooth development into the relationship. Or if you are really used to the thrills and thrive of them, might bore you to death. lol
Probably an individual thing. Possibly a good mix would be nice.
Personally I would prefer the harmonious aspects between Sun-Moon and the tension aspects between Venus-Mars, but that might be just me. lol
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posted August 14, 2015 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And its conjunct his Nodes.

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posted August 14, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I see. in that case I don't have any Progressed Sun to P Moon aspects but he does.


His progressed Sun Capricorn is opposite his progressed Moon Cancer. Aspecting my Sun Cancer and Moon Capricorn. And its exact.


So, his pSUN is 0º conjunct your MOON, and his pMOON is 0º conjunct your SUN?

Am I reading that correctly?

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posted August 14, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, his pSUN is 0º conjunct your MOON, and his pMOON is 0º conjunct your SUN?

Am I reading that correctly?


Yes.

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posted August 14, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!
This must be a real peakmoment now, culmination-time.

I mean the pMoon is moving quickly so in 1 or 2 months it will have moved away, but just now it is present along with the longer lasting progression of p Sun to n Moon; it seems to me very very relevant. Along with the nodal axis a clear purpose.

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posted August 14, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes.


Definitely seems meaningful, but unless there's a lot of the natal to support it, the sense of 'completion' might be fleeting, or allow you to do something you've been needing to do for awhile. Something very fated.

I had something similar back at the start of 2013; my karmic soulmate and I had a pSUN conjunct pMOON (0º) (plus pMOON conjunct pMOON) over my VERTEX and his ASC, and for him, it was a progressed New Moon.

For me, it was a tremendous revelation of truth. I thought that it was going to go VERY differently than it had. He had been 'confirmed' by astrology and a few complicated 'past life recalls' and a whole lotta synchronicity over the course of a decade, as my twin flame. But wasn't. (Isn't.)

The week it became exact, he absolutely destroyed me. Or relationship ended entirely in any meaningful way, despite his almost acting like he hadn't just ripped my heart from my chest and shattered it. We're still picking up the pieces. Good days and bad ones.

However, 3 months later, my actual twin flame did have a sudden revelation, as if a light had gone on. I shelved the project I was working on with my karmic soulmate (that prior week) and within a week, my twin and I were making plans to resurrect our own again. It's (and we) have been going strong since.

So, for me, these sorts of aspects are deeply illuminating. The danger lies in the progressed individual suddenly 'snapping out of it' once the aspect has passed, unless there's enough in their natal to support the continuation and further integration of these energies. So, it depends upon how similar -- or foreign -- it all is.

For us, it was strange. He was getting a big dollop of his ASC, and my pMOON was now 0º conjunct my VERTEX. He's got a lot of Aquarius, and while I'm very Uranian (URA strong) my only major AQU points are VERTEX and SNODE. So it might've signalled 'ending' for me, even though everything else looked like 'beginning'. I'm not sure.

I'd think the houses which are involved have much to do with it, too.

Is this a romantic relationship?

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posted August 14, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way -- pMOON conjunct SUN in synastry is DEFINITELY a timer, yes. And vice versa. pSUN conjunct the other's MOON.

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