posted August 14, 2015 02:20 PM            

We formed a real connexion.

We were sixteen when a mutual friend who, then, was local to him, called me when I couldn't get through on the only line they had -- a land-line, plus, I was calling long-distance. (Remember those days?) The reason was, my dear friend, (and, in those years, something more without getting too crazy now, being miles and miles away), was purposefully not answering.

And I knew why. I didn't want to -- but I did.

He was at his father's kitchen table. With a knife.

The following week would see a bit of my saved earnings spent on long-distance; our mutual friend and I would alternate, ensuring that he was never really alone -- for too long. It was effective. We all grew closer.

When I came to DC for the first time in my life, newly seventeen, we met for lunch on the concourse, and he came to give me a hug as I returned to Dallas. We enjoyed well-intentioned high-jinx at that mutual friend's (first) wedding, snagged a handful of hours to go to the Smithsonian the following day, and, a few years later, he came through and we had lunch.

And he asked me, point-blank. 'Are you happy? I mean, really happy?'

Coming from him, it meant everything; he'd seen the darkest underside a human being can, having resolved to take their own life. He wanted nothing more than for me to promise that I would make sure I was happy -- because it would catch up with me, if I wasn't.

I wasn't. I was stuck in a loop waiting for a federal background check to complete, as the job waiting for me in Virginia (at the FBI) required high clearance to be performed. I took their 'advice' and worked dead-end retail jobs, killing time. And, whilst doing so, I was living with a borderline man, who left me with a corneal scar to remind me to never live with a borderline man again.

A little under a year later, I left. A few of my dearest friends served as a catalyst, and, when the time was right -- I pulled the trigger. I left.

Yesterday, I got a text. In order to field the abusive texts from my ex-boyfriend (the first year after I left), my father and I switched numbers. Thus, heh, my friend got my father, who directed him to the number I've had since that day.

I knew he was in Los Angeles, when he contacted me; I just knew it. So, last night, he dropped his coworker off at the hotel (he's in computers, naturally), and headed our way. He got to meet my husband, be glommed by my cat, and we had a nice dinner at a cafe nearby.

My husband I were crashing; it was getting late. We're not in our twenties anymore, heh. That's about the only reason why he left before midnight. But we made plans and promises to do this again sometime, and I feel we really will.

We must've hugged six times, as he prepared to leave, four or five. It was that wonderful feeling of seeing an old friend again, but one that you've truly gone on some adventures with and have deep, fond memories of.

Today, I finally, really looked at our synastry. I'm blown away. I figured, I'd have to share.

Sometimes VENUSRx brings back into our lives exactly what he need, when we need it. We're going to be a more active part of each other's lives now. And, I finally got around to requesting his wife's friendship (literally). We've never met, but it's high time we do so.

posted August 14, 2015 03:03 PM            

Our SUN/MOON Midpoints are even close to each other's SUN or MOON. My SUN to his, and his MOON to mine.

Plus, I had no idea his NNODE is 0º conjunct my VERTEX.

Or his ALMA is 1º conjunct my MOON.

Or his JUNO is 0º conjunct my KARMA.

Wow!

And, yes, his SUN 0º conjunct my ASC, and a SUN/VENUS DW is amazing.

AND look at our DSC/ASC overlay -- 1º!

We hit each other's skipped steps, too. MOON/DEJANIRA and CHIRON/EROS. I wonder what that one's about.

That VENUS conjunct PLUTO, too. Man. Legit.

posted August 15, 2015 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Vertex conjunct ASC and Karma+ Destinn over 4th house does indicate a fated encounter and familiarity. Like he is an karmic soulmate but there are no romance indicators. I also don’t see Saturn contacts to keep you glued. No wonder you met again after two decades. I don’t think you were meant to be romantic soulmates. Just friends.

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Oh, I beg to differ vehemently. There are many romantic indicators in our synastry. Curiously, I think you meant VERTEX conjunct SNODE, rather than conjunct ASC. I've got a synastry with VERTEX-ASC 0º, and it ... it's one of those things that will never go away, no matter time nor distance.

I think had we been local to each other, he would've been one of my best friends, always. As such, we've dealt with distance since the very beginning, and are pragmatic people.

I get the sense that, in the lifeline where I moved to Virginia, we definitely became closer, but that he and his wife were fated to marry. I can't explain why I get that, I just ... do. And, as such, I'm very close with both of them -- of course, always mostly him, but her as well. I can feel that I spend a lot of time at their country home, when I'm trying to get the job out of my head for a weekend.

Something of a 'Rustin Cohle' type, if you will. I can't settle down with anyone because I'm married to the work, and that work does certainly absorb your life. And thus, he's my best friend and helps me to escape the darkness; my oldest friend in the metroplex, mind, and so our relationship carries a special significance to me.

posted August 15, 2015 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No. I know what I meant. Vertex is over one of you ASC. That Vertex conjunct SN is not a romantic indicator. Like I said. You two ARE soulmates but not romantic ones.

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I'm not talking about that being a romantic aspect. I'm referring to several of the other aspects which are more romantic and loving in nature. The VENUS-SUN DW, for example, as well as VENUS-PLUTO -- to name a few. We were definitely attracted to each other, with very deep emotions. We were just able to become 'amicable exes' as they say, and there's never been any resentment over it. So yes, our friendship IS a powerful one, but it doesn't preclude our prior romantic relationship.

posted August 15, 2015 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not talking about that being a romantic aspect. I'm referring to several of the other aspects which are more romantic and loving in nature. The VENUS-SUN DW, for example, as well as VENUS-PLUTO -- to name a few. We were definitely attracted to each other, with very deep emotions. We were just able to become 'amicable exes' as they say, and there's never been any resentment over it. So yes, our friendship IS a powerful one, but it doesn't preclude our prior romantic relationship.

Also, forgive me, but there is no ASC conjunct VERTEX in this synastry. Anywhere. Neither his to mine, nor mine to his. I'm not entirely sure what you're seeing.

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posted August 15, 2015 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
There is no Vertex/ASC conjunction in synastry unless you're using, what, 8 to 10 degree orbs? Which would be way, way, way too wide for angles, unless you know something I don't know.

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Yes, his VERTEX is 21º Virgo, and mine, 00º Aquarius. His VERTEX is 0º conjunct my Anareta, but that's hardly my ASC.

However, I'm blown away by his SNODE being conjunct my VERTEX, 0º30. I really, really am.

I allow maximum orb of 3º for all angles and VERTICES. I've learnt to expand for the NODES, given karmic astrology seems to've proved that it's viable to do so. But no further than 6º -- and if it's coinciding with a parallel, superconjunct, then it really applies.

Perhaps 5º could be explored, in the instance of a DW, or part of a configuration? ... Maybe? But 8º? 10º? Or, in this case, 11º? Absolutely no way. This isn't a planetary conjunction using wide orbs in synastry per Solar Fire -- which expanded to 12º.

posted August 16, 2015 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Forgive me Aubyanne, but as I can see you choose to see what you want to see not how the things really are. You are very delussional. Those aspects you keep mentioning are not important and they are not romantic indicators. But... have it your way. Good luck.

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Delusional? Well, my dear, I'm not insisting that VENUS aspects are not inclined towards romance, or that VERTEX conjunctions have effect at 10° +. I'm afraid you're outvoted on this one. As they say, 'that dog won't hunt.'

I've also been an astrologer for 25 years. Perhaps you're simply new at this? In which case, this is a lovely website in which you may learn many wonderful, and proper techniques.

posted August 16, 2015 04:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Nope. Not new. I am one of the best astrologers Lindaland can have.

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I think that's a matter of opinion, sweetie. But do keep telling yourself that. In my book, you lost credibility in stating that a VERTEX 11° from the ASC is 'conjunct'. You do use proper orbs, don't you, dear? It's very important. Surely, you know this, being one of the best astrologers we could have. Surely!

posted August 16, 2015 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Rosalind, what makes you so insistent that this could not be romantic? I understand that a Sun/Venus double whammy wouldn't necessarily be romantic, but what about the Venus/Pluto conjunction? Especially with one person having Sun/Pluto conjunct, and the other having a Venus/Pluto conjunction, and both having Scorpio Moons. Plus Mars trine Mars, and AC/DC axis' flipped. These are all indicators of attraction.

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She isn't listening, Blue. And, she thinks that an 11° orb is acceptable for conjunction of the VERTEX with the ASC.

On top of her being abusive (and quite detached from the reality of the situation) I pretty much quit listening after that. She doth protest a bit much, however. I'm suspecting she's going through a bad breakup and wishes to be negative. Funny thing to be arguing about though, isn't it?

posted August 16, 2015 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Aubyanne, this is so weird! Your composite is nearly identical to my composite with the man that I'm infatuated with. In our composite the stellium falls in the 5th house, with Taurus rising. In our case Mercury is also in the stellium, and the Moon is only 7 degrees from your composite Moon. Our Venus is at 27 Virgo, but other than those planets, everything else falls on the same degree as your composite. I know that this is because I was born a few weeks after you, and your friend was born a few weeks after my guy, so the midpoints of our planets are the same. Still, it's strange.

I've also said before that your composite with Blind Writer is basically my natal chart. I also think I have the same AC and Moon as her, both within a couple of degrees. It's interesting that my childhood best friend was born the month before you so my composite with her resembles your birth chart.

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It's faaaaaaate, Blue.

And I think it's wonderful that you have such a similar synastry and composite. Pay little mind to the naysayer; it's a fine chart for a romantic relationship. He and I had such a relationship in our late teens, for pity's sake! And, as I've said before, had we ever been local, I'm certain it would've been a lovely relationship.

posted August 16, 2015 05:12 AM            

Yeah, 11 degrees is way too wide for a Vertex conjunction. I think I'd only go wider than 10 degrees for the luminaries, but not to calculated points. Regardless of the type of relationship, a composite stellium can indicate a close connection. Does he live near you now, or was he just visiting? I ask because I wonder if the dynamics would change if you spent a lot of time together. That's sweet that you kept hugging, I love hugs.

That Venus/Pluto packs a punch, especially with your Sun there too. I was obsessed with a man for nearly a decade that had his Venus opposite my Moon/Pluto conjunction. I know his Venus was to blame, it was also trine my Mars and Neptune. I'm so thankful that the spell was finally broken, because it was a very painful case of unrequited love. I think meeting this new guy is the only reason I've been able to move past it.

posted August 16, 2015 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
She isn't listening, Blue. And, she thinks that an 11° orb is acceptable for conjunction of the VERTEX with the ASC.

On top of her being abusive (and quite detached from the reality of the situation) I pretty much quit listening after that. She doth protest a bit much, however. I'm suspecting she's going through a bad breakup and wishes to be negative. Funny thing to be arguing about though, isn't it?

Poor thing. I hope she finds her way. Sincerely. Negative people are flat out unhappy. I wish I could help, but there's only so much one can do.

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posted August 16, 2015 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I think that's a matter of opinion, sweetie. But do keep telling yourself that. In my book, you lost credibility in stating that a VERTEX 11° from the ASC is 'conjunct'. You do use proper orbs, don't you, dear? It's very important. Surely, you know this, being one of the best astrologers we could have. Surely!

At any rate, I fully understand your desire to leave my thread, so as to not be among 'delusional' individuals. So, go on now. No hard feelings.

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You wish you were as good astrologer as I am. At least I was born with this gift, I was not taught. You can choose to believe whatever you want. Lie yourself if you want but don't blame others for you being in the denial. Yes, no hard feelings. Since you call me abusive. Who on Earth made you a Moderator? You aren't fit for the job. I didn't offend you like you did.

posted August 16, 2015 11:24 AM            

Oh, and who made me a Moderator? Randall did. Swell guy! I'm having a blast, getting to help so many people, enjoying what I love.

posted August 16, 2015 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The fact that you aren't even with the guy, should ring you the bell.

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We dated in our teens long-distance, by the way. I can't say the odds were in our favour!

But, that's all right, sweetheart. You believe what YOU want to believe about everything, and refuse that the perspectives of others have any weight. It'll take you just exactly where you wish to go.

posted August 16, 2015 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Rosalind, a little modesty might suit you better...

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I suspect she and it parted ways long-since past. Somewhere right around egocentricism became the dominant lens.