posted August 16, 2015 06:55 PM            

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posted August 16, 2015 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This can get really close, REALLY fast. Then, it can end in an abrupt way, leaving one person with a sense of not knowing what exactly happened and the other gone forever lol

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posted August 16, 2015 08:21 PM            

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posted August 16, 2015 09:21 PM            

I hurt them too but what I experienced - and can recognise through natal aspect - is a really wincing, sore kind of response even if not intended - they could crush so much in me with the most innocuous comment (from which I could tell they didn't love me - it's having a lack of shield, I feel) sometimes it was even just the circumstances around the R/ship contrived to tap into a very fearful/sensitive part of myself and less about the other person too.

posted August 16, 2015 11:32 PM            

Her Chiron was conjunct my Sun, in the 5th house in Scorpio. Not surprisingly, our friendship started by discussing relationships.

I remember specifically the first thing that she told me was, "She felt like she could trust me," even though we had not talked much before. She told me about how she had started a casual (5th), sexual (Scorpio), relationship, and she wasn't sure she could confide in anyone else.

We had a very deep talk about sexuality and past hurts and whatnot (how Scorpio), and over the next few months kept up a nice friendship. She started inviting me over to meet with her own friends, asked me to help her with some work project, etc. I got into a relationship with someone else and told her about it, and her reaction was rather peculiar- she was really hurt that I had started seeing someone else, but I thought we ended on amicable terms.

For the next few months, she tried to turn friends in our mutual social group against me. I had no idea until someone finally told me she had an agenda against me. I had no idea why, and offered her the chance to just talk it out, but she refused.

Just recently during Venus retrograde, a mutual acquaintance of ours said that she was actually in love with me (I honestly had no clue about it, I thought she was just being friendly). So, I'm guessing she interpreted the getting-into-another relationship thing as rejection, was hurt, and then tried to "get back at me" (she had Mars opposite Pluto) .

I was more confused and irritated than hurt, mostly because it was such a petty reason. Says a lot about her self-esteem. I proceeded to cut her out of my life entirely. No explanations, because I certainly didn't owe her any.

Honestly, if both people are mature enough, I think this could be an indicator of a really positive relationship. Also, our closest aspect was Sun/Chiron, and we didn't have anything spectacular in the synastry to override it.

posted August 25, 2015 02:45 PM            

I felt a strange urge to find out what the problem was and to solve it - it took me more than a year of talking, nurturing and analyzing the story of her self, the many wounds, the reasons for her fear.
That's why we got incredibly close.

Interestingly it had a similar effect on me as well: Thinking about her wounds made my own suddenly very clear to me and I returned into therapy where I found out what the deepest wounds of all was, which I could figure out now.

I helped her finishing her BA and together we got crazy insights into spiritual processes that really changed a lot.

But unfortunately her problems were not erased.
After three years I could not stand it any longer. The constant complainig, the self-pitty, the unwillingness to change.
Saturn was also squaring her Sun and Chiron….so it was really hard.
She started to "rain on my parade" more and more, because she saw me carrying on with my life and setting new goals.
Then I couldn't bear her restrictions any more and we just stopped talking one day.

What I read in a book about Sun/Chiron conjunction in synastry:

Karmic Relation, could imply a shared work or project
The assignment is to help each other with self-love issues.
The Sun can illuminate Chirons Shadows, Chiron can advise the path of the Sun.
But it will definetly get to the most sensitive points of you both, so be prepared to get confronted with them.
If you don't switch into projections and embrace what is yours the reward will be unmeasureable! <3

posted August 25, 2015 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Which one leaves though ...? Is it the Chiron or the Sun person?

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posted August 25, 2015 06:36 PM            

And yes, after months of work, it did sort them out -- to where, rather than end the relationship, I encouraged her to stick it out, and worked with him (separately) on what was holding him back from proposing. But by the time he did so, it was almost as if she was so guilt-ridden over being on the brink of ending it, she couldn't even continue our friendship. Instead, she made a lame excuse: that she 'couldn't trust someone who was going to break confidentiality'. Used those words, too, almost as if she knew it'd enrage me to the point of letting her go. And I did.

Truth be told, she sent a text by mistake to my husband, who was participating in each session with me, helping to explore the balanced masculine-feminine approach that I was considering at the time as an experiment. Plus, no one was charging nor paying. So, it was ridiculous for her to insult me, calling into question something I take VERY seriously, when she made the error, and, even still, my husband was present in every session, assisting me! Had she honestly thought that we wouldn't discuss their relationship?

I figure the only logical thing is that she couldn't handle it, and snapped when my husband responded to the text by asking how they both were. That's it! She assumed that I'd divulged what she said privately to me (I hadn't) and then attacked my confidentiality. Ohhhh, I was furious.

Only logical explanation is that she wanted to sever all ties to anyone who was present in her indecision. Which is even funnier, given how much I was discouraging she make any rash moves. But then the balance of power may've shifted irrevocably after that. I suspect we had karma, and she also taught me a valuable lesson: there's a fine line between friendship counselling and hardcore therapy. And, let's face it, when you're friends with a therapist, the line does blur on occasion.