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Topic: Friends or lovers?
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 01:05 AM
Hi i'm posting on behalf of a friend of mine who is new to astrology and would like to know what the charts show for the potential between him and his female friend.Currently they are just very good friends and he wants to know if he should take the next step and turn this friendship into a relationship. Also if it's possible,he wants to know if there's any karma between the two of them and if so,what is it and how can he solve it. The main question is are they suitable to be in a relationship or are better off as good friends. Birth times for both are accurate. As a side note,if anyone could gleam into the boy's career prospects and how to improve his career it would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance to all who glance upon this thread. Natal chart(female) Natal chart(male) Synastry chart Composite
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15151 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 05:32 AM
Despite the nice overlays in 11th (connected to her 5th house) and 1st (connected to his DSC energy) and the Mars/Venus opp on his T/sq, I don't see much grounds for a fulfilling romantic relationship in the long run; too many blank spots. Friendship, yes; and an intense short term romance possible with the Venus/Pluto/Mars opp, unlikely to last, though.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 05:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Despite the nice overlays in 11th (connected to her 5th house) and 1st (connected to his DSC energy) and the Mars/Venus opp on his T/sq, I don't see much grounds for a fulfilling romantic relationship in the long run; too many blank spots. Friendship, yes; and an intense short term romance possible with the Venus/Pluto/Mars opp, unlikely to last, though.
Thank you leeloo for the reply..i am curious what fo you mean by too many blank spots?or the fact that a short term romance is possible only..he really likea her..i hate to just tell him this. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15151 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 05:50 AM
Actually, I think people shouldn't decide what relationship they should have with someone based on astrology. But doing what they feel like and what they want. That's why looking at charts BEFORE a relationship actually happens/starts is a bad idea.blank spots: unaspected planets, lack of aspects, lack of romance/marital contacts etc many blank spots here ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 05:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Actually, I think people shouldn't decide what relationship they should have with someone based on astrology. But doing what they feel like and what they want. That's why looking at charts BEFORE a relationship actually happens/starts is a bad idea.blank spots: unaspected planets, lack of aspects, lack of romance/marital contacts etc many blank spots here
hooray! plus we have this awesome thing called FREE WILL! let us not stop our lives and the possibility for love because of a bad aspect or two...or three. Jump in and take a chance. Life is short my friend. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 06:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Actually, I think people shouldn't decide what relationship they should have with someone based on astrology. But doing what they feel like and what they want. That's why looking at charts BEFORE a relationship actually happens/starts is a bad idea.blank spots: unaspected planets, lack of aspects, lack of romance/marital contacts etc many blank spots here
True.thanks leeloo. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 06:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: hooray! plus we have this awesome thing called FREE WILL! let us not stop our lives and the possibility for love because of a bad aspect or two...or three. Jump in and take a chance. Life is short my friend.
I know Emgem but things between them two arent always smooth sailing thats why he asked me to post up the charts.Any more takers please?
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 520 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 09:54 AM
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I know Emgem but things between them two arent always smooth sailing thats why he asked me to post up the charts. Any more takers please?
I can't offer much in the way of astrology but if you look at this from a purely human/common sense perspective, if they're already friends, you would assume they know each other pretty well. If he's having doubts and they're not even together, why would he pursue a relationship with her? I wouldn't even bother and save the friendship rather than attempt to date and risk losing it altogether. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1726 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 18, 2015 12:13 PM
it looks friendly. there aren't any traditional markers for romance in the charts. it looks like - perhaps - a relationship through school/work, it might even be cross-cultural. not strong for romance. career-wise he might want to study something in the arts or a creative field ; he has a great artistic placement with a pisces moon in the 5th (highly romantic/creative placement), and a venus cancer 10th which usually leads to being well-liked and regarded for work. the libra ascendant is also venus-ruled so he's probably interested in or drawn to arts in general.IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 201 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 12:16 PM
Do you mind if I ask how old you are and your friend? I know you can tell by the charts but I just wanna know. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: it looks friendly. there aren't any traditional markers for romance in the charts. it looks like - perhaps - a relationship through school/work, it might even be cross-cultural. not strong for romance. career-wise he might want to study something in the arts or a creative field ; he has a great artistic placement with a pisces moon in the 5th (highly romantic/creative placement), and a venus cancer 10th which usually leads to being well-liked and regarded for work. the libra ascendant is also venus-ruled so he's probably interested in or drawn to arts in general.
Thank you starmoon.It's interesting that you say that as it is infact cross culture-he's indian while the girl's chinese. Yes they did meet through college actually-studying the same course. And thanks for the interpretation on his career-funny you say something artistic as it's complete the opposite of what he's in now-he deals with numbers. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: Do you mind if I ask how old you are and your friend? I know you can tell by the charts but I just wanna know.
Well the chart is between my guy friend(who's 25) and my girl friend(who's 26). Why do you ask cchampliss2?
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 18, 2015 02:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: I can't offer much in the way of astrology but if you look at this from a purely human/common sense perspective, if they're already friends, you would assume they know each other pretty well. If he's having doubts and they're not even together, why would he pursue a relationship with her? I wouldn't even bother and save the friendship rather than attempt to date and risk losing it altogether.
He's deeply attracted to her,that makes one long for something more and this is his way of trying to find out if something more is possible because he jumps the gun and possible ruin the friendship as well. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 364 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 18, 2015 06:45 PM
Can I be honest? I don't like the girls chart. Very very tense. I didn't even look at the sinastry honestly.He has a grand trine. Very nice and balanced. She has a difficult 12th house and a Sun/Nessus conjunction. I would freakin' run. Sorry, but I like being honest. No offense at all. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1997 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 18, 2015 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Despite the nice overlays in 11th (connected to her 5th house) and 1st (connected to his DSC energy) and the Mars/Venus opp on his T/sq, I don't see much grounds for a fulfilling romantic relationship in the long run; too many blank spots. Friendship, yes; and an intense short term romance possible with the Venus/Pluto/Mars opp, unlikely to last, though.
I would have to echo LeeLoo here, and say that they are better off as friends because of the amount of unaspected planets between them, and the lack of general cohesiveness in the synastry. It's possible for two people to be amazing as individuals, yet just not right for each other. I think this is the case here. Still, if he is really determined It's not our place to tell him what to do with his life. They have a couple of decent aspects like his Jupiter sextile her Sun, and his Mercury sextile her Venus/Pluto. What concerns me is that both of their Moons are not strongly aspected. His Venus/Saturn oppositon is not strongly aspected. Her Mars only has a wide square to his Uranus, and his Mars is only opposite her Pluto (the opposition to her Venus is a full 7 degrees away and not very strong). Too many empty spaces for me. One reason why he might be fascinated by her is that her Sun is conjunct his Anitvertex. This is a point that makes connections feel meaningful, as if we have found some type of ideal in the other person. But behind that euphoria the rest of the synastry is only so so though. I think there's much better synastry to be had for both of them. Ultimately its up to him what he wants to do though. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1997 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 18, 2015 07:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Can I be honest? I don't like the girls chart. Very very tense. I didn't even look at the sinastry honestly.He has a grand trine. Very nice and balanced. She has a difficult 12th house and a Sun/Nessus conjunction. I would freakin' run. Sorry, but I like being honest. No offense at all.
Yeah, she has a tense chart. Sun square Moon, and Jupiter opp Saturn squaring Mercury. But to be fair, he has a T-square involving the Sun square a Pluto/Mars opposition. If he has a tendency to 'jump the gun' this aspect pattern is way. He also has Venus opposite Saturn. Neither is perfect. And I'd hate someone to just look at my chart and decide that I'm bad just based on that. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4602 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 18, 2015 10:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: And I'd hate someone to just look at my chart and decide that I'm bad just based on that.
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 19, 2015 01:16 AM
Aubyanne,if you could be so kind to take a look at this synastry/composite and give your thoughts i'd appreciate it.Thank you. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 19, 2015 01:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Can I be honest? I don't like the girls chart. Very very tense. I didn't even look at the sinastry honestly.He has a grand trine. Very nice and balanced. She has a difficult 12th house and a Sun/Nessus conjunction. I would freakin' run. Sorry, but I like being honest. No offense at all.
To be fair this girl is a good friend of mine and unless i'm being delusional she's nothing like that at all.
Edited:Furthermore she has valentine conjunct ascendant(orb 1) from the 12th house which is a good aspect according to IQ and Ami as well .Quoted here from her site is the following :10. Valentine conjunct the ASC–Lets end with a good one. Valentine is sacrificial love. If you see someone give a kidney to a loved one, that is the essence of Valentine. If a lover throws himself in front of a speeding car to save his beloved, that is the essence of the hero, the essence of which Valentine embodies. Site link :http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/asteroids-that-conjunct-the-ascendent/ quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: I would have to echo LeeLoo here, and say that they are better off as friends because of the amount of unaspected planets between them, and the lack of general cohesiveness in the synastry. It's possible for two people to be amazing as individuals, yet just not right for each other. I think this is the case here. Still, if he is really determined It's not our place to tell him what to do with his life. They have a couple of decent aspects like his Jupiter sextile her Sun, and his Mercury sextile her Venus/Pluto. What concerns me is that both of their Moons are not strongly aspected. His Venus/Saturn oppositon is not strongly aspected. Her Mars only has a wide square to his Uranus, and his Mars is only opposite her Pluto (the opposition to her Venus is a full 7 degrees away and not very strong). Too many empty spaces for me. One reason why he might be fascinated by her is that her Sun is conjunct his Anitvertex. This is a point that makes connections feel meaningful, as if we have found some type of ideal in the other person. But behind that euphoria the rest of the synastry is only so so though. I think there's much better synastry to be had for both of them. Ultimately its up to him what he wants to do though.
Thank you Lotis white-that would explain why he's attracted to her.Imagine,one aspect could cause so much attraction.He does say that she's an ideal gal for him.
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Yeah, she has a tense chart. Sun square Moon, and Jupiter opp Saturn squaring Mercury.But to be fair, he has a T-square involving the Sun square a Pluto/Mars opposition. If he has a tendency to 'jump the gun' this aspect pattern is way. He also has Venus opposite Saturn. Neither is perfect. And I'd hate someone to just look at my chart and decide that I'm bad just based on that.
I agree with you Lotis white.Both have their good and bad points.Can't just judge one based on just a few aspects.
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 19, 2015 02:51 AM
They also have the following aspects:His karma conjunct her vertex (exact) His vertex conjunct her vertex(exact) His karma opposite her sun(exact) His eros opposite her karma(orb 2) His valentine conjunct her venus(orb 1) His valentine conjunct her pluto (orb 4) His sun conjunct her angel(orb 1) His juno conjunct her pluto(orb 1) His juno conjunct her venus (orb 2) His nessus conjunct her ascendant(exact),mars/valentine (orb 1.5) His uranus opposite her kaali(exact) They both have angel conjunct aphrodite,his exact,hers an orb of 4.
Any thoughts on the above aspects?
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Soltze Knowflake Posts: 364 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 19, 2015 05:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Yeah, she has a tense chart. Sun square Moon, and Jupiter opp Saturn squaring Mercury.But to be fair, he has a T-square involving the Sun square a Pluto/Mars opposition. If he has a tendency to 'jump the gun' this aspect pattern is way. He also has Venus opposite Saturn. Neither is perfect. And I'd hate someone to just look at my chart and decide that I'm bad just based on that.
Yeah Pluto/Mars opp isn't good but still he has a better chart. I have a Venus/Saturn opposition, you learn to live with it. It's not so bad. I'm not saying she's bad. It depends on her maturity how she deals with the aspects. But she has way too much problems. He will end up hurt. He has a Venus/Sat opp after all. The pain can be unbearable if you involve yourself with someone non-compatible when you have Venus issues. I stay my ground. Wouldn't want to have anything to do with a person with a chart like that. Sorry. The OP has absolute right to her opinion so I have to mine. I was delusional about friends who weren't really good for me. Not sayin' it's the case but it does happen. Anyway I wish all the involved to be happy. I mean no harm. Regards
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 19, 2015 06:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Yeah Pluto/Mars opp isn't good but still he has a better chart. I have a Venus/Saturn opposition, you learn to live with it. It's not so bad. I'm not saying she's bad. It depends on her maturity how she deals with the aspects. But she has way too much problems. He will end up hurt.He has a Venus/Sat opp after all. The pain can be unbearable if you involve yourself with someone non-compatible when you have Venus issues. I stay my ground. Wouldn't want to have anything to do with a person with a chart like that. Sorry. The OP has absolute right to her opinion so I have to mine. I was delusional about friends who weren't really good for me. Not sayin' it's the case but it does happen. Anyway I wish all the involved to be happy. I mean no harm. Regards
Thank you for your opinion and expressing it respectfully. Maybe you're right and i don't know her as well as i think i do.Or maybe you're wrong.I guess time would tell. That being said,why do you think my girl friend has more 'problems' than my guy friend in the charts above? I'm curious because the guy friend also has a t-square of sun,pluto and mars.Which can be equally bothersome if not dealt with properly. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 256 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 19, 2015 03:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Can I be honest? I don't like the girls chart. Very very tense. I didn't even look at the sinastry honestly.He has a grand trine. Very nice and balanced. She has a difficult 12th house and a Sun/Nessus conjunction. I would freakin' run. Sorry, but I like being honest. No offense at all.
What does a Sun/Nessus conjuction imply? I have a friend who has this in Libra.
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 444 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 20, 2015 05:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: What does a Sun/Nessus conjuction imply? I have a friend who has this in Libra.
I'm curious as well-can't find anything good on this anywhere. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 364 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 20, 2015 06:41 AM
I've read about Nessus in Ami Anne's site a while ago. I've also researched it a while ago. And it seems that Nessus in relationship with the Sun or Moon will indicate a person who likes to push and bully others. On the other hand, for a person who was abused or bullied you have a proeminent Chiron or Pluto issues. It really depends.I hope Ami would look at this thread she has a dealt with many cases of Nessus in charts. Maybe I don't know how to correctly explain everything I'm not here to judge. I have chart issues as well, but it's more emotional stuff I keep in. I try not to bother others with my stuff. She has lots of squares and 12th house activity...so that's my main concern. My own mom has a chart with that kind of configuration. 2 stellia in her case squaring Neptune. She's close to being a nut case no matter how much I love her. Have a nice day everyone. IP: Logged |