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Aubyanne
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posted August 19, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must extend an apology to the astrology I share with my Twin Flame; I was unnecessarily judgemental of it, taking for granted -- or not even really giving it a chance -- dazzled by the drama of the composite with a powerful Karmic Soulmate. It was as if I was a frustrated mother, quietly huffing, 'why can't you be more like your brother?' not even realising the child in question is actually in possessing of just what they need to be a phenomenal success. Or, more to the point, exactly what they're meant to do and be.

Then, almost as if by magic, it began to release its finest secrets, becoming a treasure trove whose end is uncertain and indefinite. Some have been quite astonishing, but the only way to truly know them is by encompassing astrology as the synthesis of all three systems -- tropical, sidereal, and Draconic.

A great example is this:

We have a cross-system conjunction of the MOON and ASCENDANT. My dASC is 0º conjunct his MOON (tropical). Then my sMOON (sidereal) is 0º conjunct his dASC!

We can see there's a deeply established pattern between the MOON and the ASCENDANT; being two of the Big Three, there's a huge impact here. But there's a mutuality to it, as well. We are each the MOON, and each the ASCENDANT.

But how does that translate? What's actually going on here?

The ASC, for all its significance, is still a bit dodgy regarding solid interpretation. For the most part, we all agree there's a connexion to our temperament; personality and disposition, as well as our expression of 'self' in relationship to others -- especially the outside world. Some say it's in the most simple terms, 'the mask we wear'. What we show initially to others. Our basic 'persona'. The outer personality.

Then we have the MOON; the emotional profile; which rules our emotions, our instinct and the unconscious. The way we deal with our feelings, and what lies under the surface.

So what do we have when there's a powerful union -- a fusion -- of the MOON and ASC? We've seen this many times in significant relationships at the tropical synastry level; the mask and external personality of one is a match to the emotional being of the other. Specifically, that which we observe of another is the same as what we feel in ourselves.

But is this illusory or reality?

The sidereal MOON is a powerful force not discussed with too much regularity from the tropical vantage. It's our most honest, intuitive, and raw form of our emotions. It's that to which we resort when all of the outside world, its influences, and what has shaped us externally, falls away. It's the core of our emotional being on all levels.

The tropical MOON is the emotional toolbox we've adopted for the present lifeline; it's our set of abilities, traits and experiences for our current incarnation / observed timeline. These are things we integrate more readily over time as we age, incorporating those feelings, coping strategies, and elements of the emotional profile as we encounter more experiences which allow us to do so. As it reflects our childhood here, it's also laden with the deepest emotions involving all that's right, wrong, good and bad about it -- and our earliest lessons.

The sidereal MOON, on the other hand, is the repository of our most recent karma -- that which we last experienced, which still has its hooks in us -- deeply -- and affects us on a profoundly unconscious level; guiding our emotions, as if inexplicably. Bringing to us experiences that may seem disjointed, confusing, and to have no clear origin.

There's one overarching feature here, however; one which links both of these emotional conditions and states of being: the Draconic ASCENDANT.

But what is the Draconic ASCENDANT anyway?

There are a few ways to look at it; recalling how the entire Draconic chart is derived from the North Node -- in a very special position: 0º Aries, the Aries Point -- it's tied to the ultimate destination of our soul; its greatest evolution. Our spiritual path -- the route to enlightenment.

But what is our most enlightened external personality? Or is it not the sort which we most seek to embody? The outer mask, the means and manner by which we choose to present ourselves at our most evolved level?

For each of us, stages of the emotional being and its most intrinsic nature, is powerfully linked to this concept of the enlightened, evolved personality.

My deepest karmic self is somehow rooted in the most evolved version of his personality and view of the external world -- as well as how he's viewed. And vice versa. Ergo, my most raw, intuitive, and honest emotional self is a 'match' for that which is his most evolved personality.

Whereas what he experiences now as the root of his current emotional self is linked to my most evolved personality, and enlightened temperament. His emotional self as he currently knows it, and what he's grown into over time, is a 'match' for the personality which I am evolving as a consequence of being on my soul's path, and developing accordingly.

This is just one transdimensional 'double-whammy' aspect between us. But, for me, it was the doorway to beginning to understand the depth of our connexion, the 'pieces' we've aligned with, and through, one another, which allows us to 'travel together' across time.

What are some of yours?

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Ceridwen
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posted August 19, 2015 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great post, Auby.


One of the overlays I just noticed recently.

A)
my sChiron 25°38 Pisces
my Dr ASC 26°54 Pisces
my Dr Mars 25°01 Pisces


his ASC 25°02 Pisces
his Dr true BML 26°31 Pisces


B)
his Dr Chiron 8°13 Sag
his Mercury 9°23 Sag


my sVenus 11°44 Sag (yes I know maybe too wide. lol)
my ASC 7°01 Sag
my Neptune 9°56 Sag
my NN 10°09 Sag


I just realized that my sidereal Chiron is configured with his tropical ASC, while his Draco chiron is conjunct mine.
i thought that was odd.

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Peluches
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posted August 19, 2015 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
My deepest karmic self is somehow rooted in the most evolved version of his personality and view of the external world -- as well as how he's viewed.

He is the one with whom you share a huber/natal NNODE conjunction, is he not ?

Keeping in mind the fact that huber placements are calculated according to the ASC, well, I'd say that's a pretty nice resonance.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting check
I only kept it to Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, angles and Juno

My tropical Sun 20
His sVesta 20 Virgo

My Moon 15 Leo
His dAmor 15 Leo

My Venus 6 Virgo
His Draco Mars and s Pluto Valentine Lust around it.

My Mars 0 Libra
His dSaturn/MC 3 Libra
His sUranus 3 Libra.

My ASC 19 Cap
His dVesta 21 Cap
His sJuno 19 Cap with Venus Ceres Eros around in stellium

My MC 17 Scorpio
His dJuno 19 Taurus
His sNeptune 15 Sco and sMars 13 Taurus

My Juno 10 Pisces
His dNeptune 15 Sco and dMars 13 Virgo
His sCupido Pluto opp

His Sun 22 Pisces
My draco Neptune 22 Pisces opp Eros 21 Virgo
My sAlma 23 Pisces opp Valentine

His Moon 17 Scorpio
My dPsyche 19 Taurus
My sNN/POF 19 Scorpio

His Venus 7 Aqua
My dValentine 7 Aqua Uranus 11 Aqua Chiron 9 Leo
My sCeres Juno Jupiter starting at 11 Aqua opp Venus 11 Leo

His Mars 7 Gem
My dAvx 11 Gem

His ASC 28 Virgo
On my dSN opp POF
My sValentine 27 Pisces, Chiron 29 Virgo

His MC/Saturn 28 Gem
My dJuno/Jupiter 27 Gem opp Venus 22 Sag
My sDSC Saturn Cupido 25 Sag, Pallas 28 Gem on ASC

His Juno 13 Aqua
My dUranus 11 Aqua
My sJuno Jupiter Ceres Pholus 13-15 Aqua


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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite

ASC/Venus 22-24 Scorpio
Draco Mars 15 Scorpio
Sidereal NN/Mercury 24 Scorpio

Sun/Anteros 21 Gem
Draco IC Pholus Jupiter 18 Gem

Moon 0 Libra
Draco Sun/Mercury/NN 0-1 Aries
Sidereal Vesta/Uranus 2-3 Libra

Mars 4 Leo
Sidereal Juno Ceres 3 Aqua near IC

NN/Mercury 19 Sag
Draco MC 18 Sag

MC 7 Virgo
Draco DSC 4 Virgo, Venus 3 Pisces
Sidereal Moon 6 Virgo Alma 3 Pisces

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hypatia238
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posted September 25, 2015 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting check
I only kept it to Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, angles and Juno

My tropical Sun 20
His sVesta 20 Virgo

My Moon 15 Leo
His dAmor 15 Leo

My Venus 6 Virgo
His Draco Mars and s Pluto Valentine Lust around it.

My Mars 0 Libra
His dSaturn/MC 3 Libra
His sUranus 3 Libra.

My ASC 19 Cap
His dVesta 21 Cap
His sJuno 19 Cap with Venus Ceres Eros around in stellium

My MC 17 Scorpio
His dJuno 19 Taurus
His sNeptune 15 Sco and sMars 13 Taurus

My Juno 10 Pisces
His dNeptune 15 Sco and dMars 13 Virgo
His sCupido Pluto opp

His Sun 22 Pisces
My draco Neptune 22 Pisces opp Eros 21 Virgo
My sAlma 23 Pisces opp Valentine

His Moon 17 Scorpio
My dPsyche 19 Taurus
My sNN/POF 19 Scorpio

His Venus 7 Aqua
My dValentine 7 Aqua Uranus 11 Aqua Chiron 9 Leo
My sCeres Juno Jupiter starting at 11 Aqua opp Venus 11 Leo

His Mars 7 Gem
My dAvx 11 Gem

His ASC 28 Virgo
On my dSN opp POF
My sValentine 27 Pisces, Chiron 29 Virgo

His MC/Saturn 28 Gem
My dJuno/Jupiter 27 Gem opp Venus 22 Sag
My sDSC Saturn Cupido 25 Sag, Pallas 28 Gem on ASC

His Juno 13 Aqua
My dUranus 11 Aqua
My sJuno Jupiter Ceres Pholus 13-15 Aqua


Sun in virgo at 20d so the last solar eclipse must be really doing something for you which will be effective till March 2016:
https://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/232747.html

BTW your Sun opposes my Moon by 1d. Your moon conjuncts my Valentine and your Venus conjuncts my Priapus, your Juno opposes my AMOR....

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Neptune29
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posted September 25, 2015 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to check the sidereal aspects?

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yungang_grotto
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posted September 25, 2015 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes... this is a beautiful post

I'll just leave this here...:

His Draco Chiron conjunct my natal North Node exact...

I wondered when I would have the aha! moment with my NN in this relationship. It's now... I think. Unless draconic conjunctions to natal North Nodes are somehow moot?

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Aubyanne
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posted September 25, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Yes... this is a beautiful post

I'll just leave this here...:

His Draco Chiron conjunct my natal North Node exact...


That's a lovely sentiment, Yun. Is there anything in your Draco that hits his dCHIRON? The conjunction to your NNODE, if tied in (anchored into) the present via the tropical, could be a beautiful nudge towards future healing.

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posted September 25, 2015 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my draconic chart Pisces is empty... for aspects, my draconic Sun is at 10 Sag, his draconic Chiron at 11 Pisces... That's all I see from that angle, big ole square.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 26, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sun in virgo at 20d so the last solar eclipse must be really doing something for you which will be effective till March 2016:
https://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/232747.html

BTW your Sun opposes my Moon by 1d. Your moon conjuncts my Valentine and your Venus conjuncts my Priapus, your Juno opposes my AMOR....



Yes, I think this is supposed to be a very important year for me

wow, Hypatia, let's fall in love I love Moon Valentine and what you describe in there.

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hypatia238
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posted September 27, 2015 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Yes, I think this is supposed to be a very important year for me

wow, Hypatia, let's fall in love I love Moon Valentine and what you describe in there.



LMAO, that is what I am thinking too hahaha

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