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Topic: Mars square Pluto
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 01:40 PM
Is this a very bad aspect? I read few posts about this aspect in synastry... My Pluto squares my baby's Mars : ( Is there anything positive about this aspect? Plss help me on this one. I wanna know how I could turn this into a positive. I feel I share some good aspects with my son. My Jupiter is exactly on his Asc My Leo moon on his Sun His Jupiter/Venus and Mercury trines my Neptune and Venus Moon- On my Venus (a bit wide though) Im seeing some more hard aspects.. His sun squares my Neptune His moon opposes my Jupiter His mars squares my Venus and Jupiter.. I would be grateful for any feedback. Thanks a lot in advance.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64183 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 27, 2015 01:49 PM
How close is the aspect? It is just ONE aspect, too. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: Is this a very bad aspect? I read few posts about this aspect in synastry... My Pluto squares my baby's Mars : ( Is there anything positive about this aspect? Plss help me on this one. I wanna know how I could turn this into a positive. I feel I share some good aspects with my son. My Jupiter is exactly on his Asc My Leo moon on his Sun His Jupiter/Venus and Mercury trines my Neptune and Venus Moon- On my Venus (a bit wide though) Im seeing some more hard aspects.. His sun squares my Neptune His moon opposes my Jupiter His mars squares my Venus and Jupiter.. I would be grateful for any feedback. Thanks a lot in advance.
You must remember the nature of your relationship, it's about growth and bringing him up to be a mature, stable, solid man. If you had all easy aspects you wouldn't inspire much growth in each other and he won't see you as his mentor or someone to respect and look to for guidance because your strong and will push him(even if he hates it as a child) Your hard aspects will provide friction that gives you both drive to change and expand. A mother/child relationship isn't going to be easy, the process is hard, challenging and a struggle. Raising anything from infancy into adulthood through living together and providing the appropriate amount of friction along with love to give him what he needs is essential but a very tough job! I think what your seeing is the needs of your child being met through you. If he's hard headed your going to need those hard aspects between you to give you the drive to help him grow past negative behaviors even if he's stubbornly refusing to grow. You won't give up because you feel the stress to continue on to help him learn. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3333 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted August 27, 2015 02:01 PM
Post the chart to see if there are other aspects that can overcome this bad aspect.IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:02 PM
I dont have the aspect grid table... his mars is at cancer 28° and my pluto is somewhere around libra 20° IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: I dont have the aspect grid table... his mars is at cancer 28° and my pluto is somewhere around libra 20°
That's to wide to be square....7 degree at the most and some say only 5. IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:05 PM
Sorry Im actually feeling good now. My gut is telling me I dont have to worry about this. Im terribly sorry... Thanks Ami : )IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: You must remember the nature of your relationship, it's about growth and bringing him up to be a mature, stable, solid man. If you had all easy aspects you wouldn't inspire much growth in each other and he won't see you as his mentor or someone to respect and look to for guidance because your strong and will push him(even if he hates it as a child) Your hard aspects will provide friction that gives you both drive to change and expand. A mother/child relationship isn't going to be easy, the process is hard, challenging and a struggle. Raising anything from infancy into adulthood through living together and providing the appropriate amount of friction along with love to give him what he needs is essential but a very tough job! I think what your seeing is the needs of your child being met through you. If he's hard headed your going to need those hard aspects between you to give you the drive to help him grow past negative behaviors even if he's stubbornly refusing to grow. You won't give up because you feel the stress to continue on to help him learn.
Gabby thank you sooo much, I read this post just now.Man I was sh*t scared then but now I feel good. I know we will be good : ) Sorry I freaked out. Im such an idiot. But thank you thank you so much. U r a sweetheart : )IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: That's to wide to be square....7 degree at the most and some say only 5.
Too wide? It showed on the synastry chart. Im happy now.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:10 PM
You mentioned your husbands Chiron on your baby's moon?My sons Chiron is on my Sun, square his Sun. I was so worried my ego was someone going to contribute to his pain! But the way it has played out is my son comes to me with his pain and I feel so blessed he does, he doesn't turn to anyone else(he is 17 now)...it makes me feel good about myself to know he trusts me like this. So don't judge it just yet...let it play out and see where it goes. As long as love is your intention and egos are kept in check you will be amazing parents. IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: You mentioned your husbands Chiron on your baby's moon?My sons Chiron is on my Sun, square his Sun. I was so worried my ego was someone going to contribute to his pain! But the way it has played out is my son comes to me with his pain and I feel so blessed he does, he doesn't turn to anyone else(he is 17 now)...it makes me feel good about myself to know he trusts me like this. So don't judge it just yet...let it play out and see where it goes. As long as love is your intention and egos are kept in check you will be amazing parents.
Thank you for sharing this Gabby♡ My husband is great with my son.. he becomes such a softie around him its very cute to watch. Im least worried about them : )) Whereas Im the one who has to learn to be more giving and unselfish. I believe I have it in me. Our baby is everything to us Gabby... You must be a great mom... Im happy for you : )
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: Too wide? It showed on the synastry chart. Im happy now.
Yea, the orbs sometimes on those charts are to wide! Only a conjunction gets 10 degrees in natal chart. In synastry you need to tighten these to no more than 7. Opposition some say you give 10 degrees in natal chart, I think it's a bit wide I use 7 in natal and synastry. A square/trine in natal 5-7orbs. To me a square in synastry at 7degrees is still kind of wide! Other tighter aspects will greatly affect that square and potentially make it not felt much at all.
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Post the chart to see if there are other aspects that can overcome this bad aspect.
Thank you Rosalind : )
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: Thank you for sharing this Gabby♡ My husband is great with my son.. he becomes such a softie around him its very cute to watch. Im least worried about them : )) Whereas Im the one who has to learn to be more giving and unselfish. I believe I have it in me. Our baby is everything to us Gabby... You must be a great mom... Im happy for you : )
The fact that you care so much and freak out and are ready to change just due to fear of not being a great mom says your baby is very lucky!! He already has a great mom that cares deeply! Thank you, I do try because I care....and that's all it takes! You've got this to....your going to be a great mom actually you already are! You don't need to worry about it all! IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Yea, the orbs sometimes on those charts are to wide! Only a conjunction gets 10 degrees in natal chart. In synastry you need to tighten these to no more than 7.Opposition some say you give 10 degrees in natal chart, I think it's a bit wide I use 7 in natal and synastry. A square/trine in natal 5-7orbs. To me a square in synastry at 7degrees is still kind of wide! Other tighter aspects will greatly affect that square and potentially make it not felt much at all.
Thanks Gabby, I should have reduced the orbs! I think I should never try to learn synastry... I dont have any talent for it. I should stick to arts! This is just not for me... but I like LL a lot : )IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: The fact that you care so much and freak out and are ready to change just due to fear of not being a great mom says your baby is very lucky!! He already has a great mom that cares deeply! Thank you, I do try because I care....and that's all it takes! You've got this to....your going to be a great mom actually you already are! You don't need to worry about it all!
Thanks Gabby, I will work hard to be a great mom : ) U r awesome u know... this place has many amazing people. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Thanks Gabby, I should have reduced the orbs! I think I should never try to learn synastry... I dont have any talent for it. I should stick to arts! This is just not for me... but I like LL a lot : )
Awe....your good at it, it just takes time. I didn't realize the orbs were so large either on astro.com for quite awhile and did the same thing as you. If you click on the "Additional information PDF [?]" tab at the top of the chart it will open a new page that lists all the planets and their exact degrees. Then you can see if the orbs are within range to make an aspect. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 7444 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by geminigal2805: Thanks Gabby, I will work hard to be a great mom : ) U r awesome u know... this place has many amazing people.
Thank you, yes we do have great ppl here, your one of them!! IP: Logged |
AstroAJ Newflake Posts: 22 From: Rocky Mountains Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 27, 2015 02:51 PM
I have this natal and I also had it in synastry with someone I dated. This person also had it natal in their chart so there was a lot of this type of energy between us! Not the same kind of relationship as you will have with your daughter but what helped me deal with this aspect in our charts was to always remember that nothing was a competition. I believe it was this aspect between him and I that made it easy to get into a "battle of wills" where one was constantly trying to one-up the other, and I would find this happening almost without realizing I was engaging in it! Just constantly staying conscious of it helped a lot. I am still friends with this person even though dating didn't work. And I still always remember in our interactions that we are not competing, and it helps diffuse what would potentially be somewhat explosive little battles.
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 02:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Awe....your good at it, it just takes time. I didn't realize the orbs were so large either on astro.com for quite awhile and did the same thing as you. If you click on the "Additional information PDF [?]" tab at the top of the chart it will open a new page that lists all the planets and their exact degrees. Then you can see if the orbs are within range to make an aspect.
Yeah right? I should have downloaded the table... woukd have made it all easier! I freaked out today and didnt bother to check all that. Still I feel a single aspect cant determine an entire relationship. I remember the first time I posted our composite chart people asked me if it was a secret affair? coz my husband and i have a 12th house composite sun...
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 719 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 27, 2015 02:55 PM
Something else that I'd like to point out, if not mentioned already. Not everything, of every aspect plays out. I'm speaking from personal experiences. I think of an aspect like, I hand you the tools to build something (trine, etc), or fail to give you the tools, or give the incorrect tools, (square) or tools that are stuck together (conjunction). Now what are you going to build with them, and how? It's up to you what you do with what you're given. In large part. I've overcome difficult aspects in my natal. Or at least made very significant progress. I don't know if I made any sense. I'm strange. LOL IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 03:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by AstroAJ: I have this natal and I also had it in synastry with someone I dated. This person also had it natal in their chart so there was a lot of this type of energy between us! Not the same kind of relationship as you will have with your daughter but what helped me deal with this aspect in our charts was to always remember that nothing was a competition. I believe it was this aspect between him and I that made it easy to get into a "battle of wills" where one was constantly trying to one-up the other, and I would find this happening almost without realizing I was engaging in it! Just constantly staying conscious of it helped a lot. I am still friends with this person even though dating didn't work. And I still always remember in our interactions that we are not competing, and it helps diffuse what would potentially be somewhat explosive little battles.
Thank you AstroAJ, Im sure you would have had an easier time with this aspect as you have it in your natal chart. For us it should be easier as the orbs are a bit wide. As im the Pluto person, I can handle this energy pretty well. I have Pluto on my IC natally so kinda used to that energy. Im going to remember your advice and not get into any battle of wills with my son : ) Im sorry to hear your relationship didnt work out...IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Thank you, yes we do have great ppl here, your one of them!!
Arrgh Gabby, unlike u guys I hardly contribute. It irks me a lot I dont have anything to give here.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64183 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 27, 2015 03:13 PM
That is so wide that I would not worry about it, G!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 27, 2015 03:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Something else that I'd like to point out, if not mentioned already. Not everything, of every aspect plays out. I'm speaking from personal experiences. I think of an aspect like, I hand you the tools to build something (trine, etc), or fail to give you the tools, or give the incorrect tools, (square) or tools that are stuck together (conjunction). Now what are you going to build with them, and how? It's up to you what you do with what you're given. In large part. I've overcome difficult aspects in my natal. Or at least made very significant progress. I don't know if I made any sense. I'm strange. LOL
Actually the way u described it made sense! It was easy to understand or maybe I'm strange too : ) This energy is no waltz... Glad to hear you made significant progress with difficult aspects in your natal chart. Must have taken loads of awareness on your part. IP: Logged |