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mereiposa
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posted September 03, 2015 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have two relationships I am very curious about comparing. One is my ex husband, married 12 years. The other is a man I have seen for the better part of the last year. They are born two weeks apart, so many things are quite similar. I feel like they are both soulmates, with karma to work out.

Without me telling you who is who, can you help me compare and contrast?

These are the composites:

And these are the davison charts:

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posted September 03, 2015 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon opposite saturn in one and moon opposite uranus in the other. and sun square to uranus in both. those are some very unfortunate aspects to have in any composite. there are some nice conjunctions in both, but i don't know that you'd fare better in this relationship than the last. neither looks good for staying together forever. imo.

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posted September 03, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for reading

Yes, you are right about the longevity. And so far all of my composites feature uranus squares somewhere. I feel as though there is definite karma with both.

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posted September 04, 2015 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a fan of VERTEX conjunct DSC, in any case.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 04, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had heated debates here, to say the least, about Uranus being "unfortunate", yet long term couples such as Brangelina and Goldie/Russel have it in 0 orb on their composite angles.

Uranians need Uranus in their charts, Saturnians need Saturn. Moon in hard aspect to Saturn is very common in marital composites. Discussing the composite without the synastry is a bad idea. Please post the synastries too, and without aspect lines to all, just the standard, planetary aspects.

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mereiposa
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posted September 04, 2015 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I've had heated debates here, to say the least, about Uranus being "unfortunate", yet long term couples such as Brangelina and Goldie/Russel have it in 0 orb on their composite angles.

Uranians need Uranus in their charts, Saturnians need Saturn. Moon in hard aspect to Saturn is very common in marital composites. Discussing the composite without the synastry is a bad idea. Please post the synastries too, and without aspect lines to all, just the standard, planetary aspects.


I was thinking about this. My juno is Aquarius, so I am drawing Uranian types to me. My moon is Cap, so I need and want Saturn. I'll post the synastries, though I have posted the one before.

And as for longevity, 15 years in relationship and 12 of marriage is long. Not happy always (LOL!), but long.

Synastry 1:
I'm blue in this one

Synastry 2:
I'm red in this one

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posted September 04, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed a mystic rectangle in the first synastry. My moon, my mars/his pluto/his SN, my sun/eros/BML, to his NN.

side note-

because our ASC/DSC are trine, and therefore also sextile, does that form it's own mystic rectangle?

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posted September 04, 2015 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are both strong charts, and this was obvious in the composites as well

Yes to your question
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posted September 04, 2015 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
They are both strong charts, and this was obvious in the composites as well



Is there a better chart?

I guess I am also wondering if there is outstanding karma to clear? Important points are being hit in my chart. Midpoints are being activated. But I think I am trying to figure out if this is just my "astro type", or if I am being drawn to this second similar chart because I have to work out karma. I definitely felt a fated pull to this man, and still do. Like I have been with him before, like I am supposed to be with him. And I feel pretty calm about it all. I don't remember that feeling of fatedness with my ex husband, but then again I was pretty young when we met. Plus there was an insistent frenzy to have the relationship with my ex-husband, definitely not calm and patient. That could be age too.

I know which chart is my ex husband, and I am proceeding forward with an attitude of forgiveness. I don't want to meet him again in the next life to work on this anymore! As for the second guy... I don't know. I know what I would like, but I do not want to repeat the experience I had with my ex.

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posted September 04, 2015 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a pretty clear view in regards to karma and relationships: we have karma (destiny) with every relationship we have. We live in soul groups.

Karma doesn't mean bad stuff we are supposed to endure and "clear". Karma is about attaining perfection as we experience all sides of the coin. It's about knowing everything, experiencing everything. And we do this sequentially, one lesson at a time.

Dysfunctional, painful, abusive, unrequited relationships are not to be explained with clearing karma. In other words, the reason to be in relationships is to experience mutual fulfilling love. Painful unrequited relationships are to be interrupted and we move on to finding true love. Nobody is expecting of you to stay in a dysfunctional relationship because of "karma' and you shouldn't expect this of yourself either.

The only reason for you to be in this relationship is if you and the guy are a good match, love each other and mutually fulfill your needs.

Actually, the karmic connotation for people hanging in unsatisfactory relationships is for them to learn not to do this, it's their own karmic lesson, about how to learn to abandon a sinking/ no good ship in due time, not the other way around (not: "how to learn to hang in there and take all kind of crap, for karma clearing reasons" - )
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posted September 04, 2015 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have a pretty clear view in regards to karma and relationships: we have karma (destiny) with every relationship we have. We live in soul groups.

Karma doesn't mean bad stuff we are supposed to endure and "clear". Karma is about attaining perfection as we experience all sides of the coin. It's about knowing everything, experiencing everything. And we do this sequentially, one lesson at a time.

Dysfunctional, painful, abusive, unrequited relationships are not to be explained with clearing karma. In other words, the reason to be in relationships is to experience mutual fulfilling love. Painful unrequited relationships are to be interrupted and we move on to finding true love. Nobody is expecting of you to stay in a dysfunctional relationship because of "karma' and you shouldn't expect this of yourself either.

The only reason for you to be in this relationship is if you and the guy are a good match, love each other and mutually fulfill your needs.

Actually, the karmic connotation for people hanging in unsatisfactory relationships is for them to learn not to do this, it's their own karmic lesson, not the other way around (not: "how to learn to hang in there and take all kind of crap, for karma clearing reasons" - )


Thank you LeeLoo. I think sometimes it is hard to realize that. I stayed way too long in my marriage, not because I felt karma to be cleared. I just did. I am afraid of doing it again. Like ice skating, I am a little unsteady on the ice right now. I apparently need to trust myself.

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posted September 04, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, trust yourself, Mereiposa And judge a relationship by the good things the person brings into your life, their love and how well you two match

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