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Belba
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posted September 18, 2015 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inspired by Faith's thread,
to dwell into you folks' astro knowledge even further, only now on my example.

I searched for two people on the two opposite sides of my "affection" spectrum. One person I absolutely and wholeheartedly adore, admire, respect, I do know their weaknesses and don't idolize them, but nevertheless I have learned so much from them.

Other person I can not stand, even their presence is off putting to me, the dislike has even physical dimension for me, I can't watch them, look them in the eyes, because I think everything shows in my face expression. I don't think I have ever known a person so off putting to me, I usually find something good and charming in everybody, but not in them. Unfortunately I have to spend more time with them than I'd like to.

I have both of their TOB.

PERSON A

PERSON B

This should be fun and educative!

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posted September 18, 2015 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seems like you cant stand the second person?

can i see the composites?

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posted September 18, 2015 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
seems like you cant stand the second person?

can i see the composites?


Why do you think that?

the composites are in progress... just a sec
EDIT: do you maybe have any special wishes on which asteroids to include etc.?

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posted September 18, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belba:
Why do you think that?

the composites are in progress... just a sec
EDIT: do you maybe have any special wishes on which asteroids to include etc.?


I dont need asteroid. I'm just a much better composite reader than a synastry one haha

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posted September 18, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Adore the 1st one

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Belba
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posted September 18, 2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theunknown:
I dont need asteroid. I'm just a much better composite reader than a synastry one haha

Haha ok I did include some though. So here you go

Composite with PERSON A

Composite with PERSON B

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Belba
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posted September 18, 2015 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Adore the 1st one

Just a wild guess or.. what made you think that?

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posted September 18, 2015 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belba, have these been purely platonic, or are there more feelings involved?

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posted September 18, 2015 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Belba, have these been purely platonic, or are there more feelings involved?

Hm, I guess I can say that no, no one is (or have been) a love/sex interest

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posted September 18, 2015 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that you adore person A, venus vertex conjunction, jupiter soft aspect venus, venus soft aspect north node, mercury conjunct DC, venus conjunct MC, venus opposite mars. Lots of venus happening!


Person B could be grating because mercury opposite mars, plus you have venus/pluto conjunction which can go awry, and mars pluto hard aspect.

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posted September 18, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I agree that you adore person A, venus vertex conjunction, jupiter soft aspect venus, venus soft aspect north node, mercury conjunct DC, venus conjunct MC, venus opposite mars. Lots of venus happening!


Person B could be grating because mercury opposite mars, plus you have venus/pluto conjunction which can go awry, and mars pluto hard aspect.


Hm, you're absolutely right, with person A both our Venuses are really activated!

I won't be commenting further as I'm afraid I might split up the mystery

3:0 in favour of person A until now.

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posted September 18, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I searched for two people on the two opposite sides of my "affection" spectrum. One person I absolutely and wholeheartedly adore, admire, respect, I do know their weaknesses and don't idolize them,

Also going for person A.
Their Moon is Vasya (magnetic attraction) to yours. In fact, I suspect this person would say the above words about you (rather than the other way around). I go for a terribly grateful vibe from your side because of such deep loyalty from this person to you.

Their Moon is also exactly quindecile your Sun, if that matters.

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posted September 18, 2015 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Also going for person A.
Their Moon is Vasya (magnetic attraction) to yours. In fact, I suspect this person would say the above words about you (rather than the other way around). I go for a terribly grateful vibe from your side because of such deep loyalty from this person to you.

Their Moon is also exactly quindecile your Sun, if that matters.


I must say it's first time I hear about Vasya, is that vedic? So, Aries and Sag combination?

What you wrote is interesting.. I'll comment it later.

I haven't got the slightest about quindecile aspect, I'll look into it

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posted September 18, 2015 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it's vedic. You first have to substract 23 degree form your Western Moon sign. And then you get a Pisces-moon which is Vasya to Sag Moon.

I made a thread about it on the vedic board.
You can read past the 'Rajju and Vedha dosha' there. Just focus on the 'Vasya' aspect. In my experience it's not only applicable to romantic relationships.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum38/HTML/000033.html

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posted September 18, 2015 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are all you people thinking?

It's person B she likes!


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posted September 18, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of synastry:
-Your venus is on A's vertex and you also have a stellium in A's 7th. So you understand where A's emotional perspective is from.
-your mars oppose A's venus
-A's jupiter also sextile your mercury


For B:
-B's mars oppose your mercury, your mars oppose B's mercury. You both get on each other's nerves
-Your saturn squares B's north node and B's venus is on your pluto; you bring a sense of discipline and restriction to B and B provokes very strong feelings from you


Composite:
For A:
-Moon square pluto, opposite mars brings very intense feelings. Not necessarily bad. You probably have very deep feelings for A.
-Moon also trine venus and square jupiter. So overall very jovial and affectionate


For B:
-Sun conjunct pluto, moon square saturn, venus square saturn => again, strong feelings but also very cold feelings and a sense of discipline is present.


So composite really confirms synastries

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posted September 18, 2015 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
What are all you people thinking?

It's person B she likes!


For some reason I started singing Rebel rebel when I read that respect! We finally have some opposition :P

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posted September 18, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO, it has to be the 2nd chart, the one you like; but I'll explain my choice after the "verdict"


EDIT: ah OK, my likemind fav Moon, Mercury and not only said the same
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posted September 18, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Yes it's vedic. You first have to substract 23 degree form your Western Moon sign. And then you get a Pisces-moon which is Vasya to Sag Moon.

Hm, but person A has Aries Moon? Or does it change in vedic chart?

I've always loved Pisces Mooners, so this Vasya concept seems very attractive, I'll dig into the thread, thanks for the link

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posted September 18, 2015 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apart from the interesting Yods, both composites are kind of off though no wonder these are not relationships.

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posted September 18, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yes, substract from both. Theirs becomes a pisces moon at approx 25 degree.

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posted September 18, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is one single intriguing aspect in the 1st, Venus conj MC opp your Mars. Apart from that, there is nothing rhyming with "adore" in there. EDIT: because that would be a potential admiration aspect.

and maybe Saturn completing the Sun/Moon T/square but that would actually make you craving for the person or wanting to teach them a lesson

On the other hand, it is interesting to notice Mars is over-active in the 2nd (however in tune with your chart), while for the first, it's focused on this classical aspect on MC/IC axis hm and not much else for Mars.

The main difference here is that the first synastry is weak, superficial contact, while the second is a strong strong synastry.

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posted September 18, 2015 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4:2, A still "leading"

I'm just gonna drag this for a little bit longer, so you'll all have to wait for a while longer

unknown, what a thorough analysis, I can't wait to give you feedback

mir, now I get it (sorta.. I'm so slow lately. I have to consult with both of our vedic charts - me and person A )

Leeloo,
which are you fav placements, B person? didn't quite get that

Very interesting observations otherwise Why such emphasis on Mars though? And what do you think makes for A synastry weak and superficial, lack of what?

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posted September 18, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me just emphasize again that there is no sexual interest involved, at all and there never will be.

Maybe I should just say that one person is a woman, other man. just to spice things up, although I'm not sure how would that help.

anyway, there are so many things not being mentioned, which I would notice right away (and did, when I first checked them), but maybe they're too obvious and beginners level :P

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posted September 18, 2015 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My opinion is that chart B is a strong synastry and with many reasons for liking and being inspired by the person. But for some reason, based on your reaction, I have the feeling it's actually person A you like.
In that case, I wonder how well you know person A? if the interaction went beyond the Venus/Mars initial "sparks"? (which can go either way, btw).

Synastry A, on a deeper level, has a number of important flaws: it's not what you need, somehow contradicts your natal needs, even antagonizes them. Also, the simplest answer would be your Venus is unaspected in that synastry, so why would you like them in the first place? While the 2nd holds a very attractive Venus sq (at least for you) among other things.

But I guess we should discuss this after the answer

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