posted September 20, 2015 07:02 PM            

Synastry and composite with my twin:

Synastry and composite with my karmic soulmate:

And natals:

Mine:

My twin:

My karmic soulmate:

posted September 20, 2015 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
All i can say is: You're really lucky!!

I wonder Aubyanne, what happens when your heart say -yes i found the one (soulmate or whatever) but the composite screams a big NO!?

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I truly am, Spaces. I truly am.

posted September 20, 2015 08:47 PM            

Im already in but now im concerned! Should i follow the reason or the heart?

posted September 21, 2015 01:44 AM            

AMOR-VENUS-JUNO in 1H. PLUTO conjunct PROSERPINA in 8H? Awesome! KARMA-SATURN? Nice! There's a karmic basis here, and in the 11H, it can be a gift. Potentially even good karma.

Plus, your composite ASC is on the Aries Point. This could be a very influential relationship that has great visibility. In that case, I actually LIKE the VENUS-MARS square, even across the 1H and 4H, as it connects the ASC/DSC and the IC/MC.

Any idea what they suggested was so irreconcilably challenging?

posted September 21, 2015 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'd actually caution following the advice on any astrologer that flat puts one off of a relationship purely off of astrology.

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posted September 21, 2015 02:57 AM            

According to her is because of those venus squares (she said that is a t-square)mars oppositions and the lack of saturn aspects.Then after what i heard i tried desperately to find some answers wich was worst cuz i cant see the big picture as you guys do.So all i could do was collect pieces,it was actually like a puzzle "that is indeed a bad aspect" "this one is awful" OMG!!! So after some of my miserable researchs i thought she was really right.

posted September 21, 2015 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:

Btw I have that Uranus-mars opposition in my natal too (cusp of 2th and 8th) Urg wish i never knew about that!! Is scaring the hell out of me.

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Which is probably why you need EXACTLY a composite like this!
Some people need more tension-aspects than others, and a Mars-Uranus-opposition along the 2nd-8th axis definitely is among those who need a little more intensity than others (like an own nuclear plant - a candlelight? like in a trine-sextile-synastry? well sure it would be nice, but it would not satisfy your natal needs).

posted September 21, 2015 11:48 AM            

one of the first things I notice is the emphasis of the hemispheres.

You and your karmic soulmate have an emphasis of the eastern hemisphere, while your twin adds the western hemisphere emphasis. It looks more complementary to me.

Actually one could say there is a dominance of the 1st quadrant for you (excluding Neptune), while your twin has a dominance of the 3rd quadrant, which is the natural complement to 1st quadrant.

The meeting point however is the 2nd quadrant for the two of you, which deals with the emotional nature; he has Moon and Saturn there, you have Neptune there.

Your karmic soulmate has an emphasis of the eastern hemisphere like you do, too; his is above the horizon and yours is below it (his is a dominance of 4th as compared to your 1st quadrant), it is however not the natural complement (the natural complement to the 4th quadrant is the 2nd quadrant).

Your karmic soulmate fills up your 5th and 6th house, but other than that emphasizes the houses already present, and most importantly does not fill any of the houses in 3rd quadrant which could be a point of complementing.

posted September 21, 2015 11:57 AM            

I once formulated the hypothesis that twinflames, or at least very closely connected souls in a relationship, will have some form of strong interplay between the 8th house and 2nd house in particular (possibly to 7th house or 1st house as well).

posted September 21, 2015 01:39 PM            

Don't get me wrong I am glad you are evolving bc I personally did not think he was your TF and I have more faith in your new idea of who your TF is as you have more of a relationship with him it feels like to me but you can see why I have a hard time with the TF concept even though I do want to belief in it. How much of this concept is based on fantasy? and it just seems to be so illusive when people often say they have a TF and then a few years pass and claim they have a new TF and that this one truly is the real TF, that is why I always say he might be my TF if I even use this concept/terminology at all bc only time will tell who is who or if this concept is all based on fantasy and we just have many soulmates.

posted September 21, 2015 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Your twin fills your 8th house, which definitely complements your 2nd house and even better ASPECTS your 2nd house Sun.
his Saturn also falls into your 8th house.

I once formulated the hypothesis that twinflames, or at least very closely connected souls in a relationship, will have some form of strong interplay between the 8th house and 2nd house in particular (possibly to 7th house or 1st house as well).

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posted September 21, 2015 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
When was the day that you decided that your TF who you back then claimed was the one you had the compacted stellium with no longer was your TF and that the guy you have a butterfly with is? You were so sure the guy with a compacted stellium was your TF, there are so many posts you made about you and him in that context claiming that IQ confirmed he was your TF bc of the hugely compacted stellium in the first.

Don't get me wrong I am glad you are evolving bc I personally did not think he was your TF and I have more faith in your new idea of who your TF is as you have more of a relationship with him it feels like to me but you can see why I have a hard time with the TF concept even though I do want to belief in it. How much of this concept is based on fantasy? and it just seems to be so illusive when people often say they have a TF and then a few years pass and claim they have a new TF and that this one truly is the real TF, that is why I always say he might be my TF if I even use this concept/terminology at all bc only time will tell who is who or if this concept is all based on fantasy and we just have many soulmates.

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H, I actually appreciate your scepticism, and I wish we were all so hard-nosed. Of course, there's the flip-side. Ceri's constant support was very encouraging to me, and always a quiet comfort in the background. But I expect to experience dissent. I need the devil's advocate and naysayers. Because there was clearly a reason why it went down this way, and we'll only come to understand that through the deeper debate and closer evaluation.

posted September 21, 2015 04:14 PM            

Nevertheless, twinflames. I believed. With all of my heart, with EVERYTHING that I was. Every fibre of my being KNEW we were twins and we were meant to be.

I was wrong.

I eventually recovered from that (about 20 years afterwards Ithink, and no I am sadly not exaggerating), and I am still posting the composite with him, even though I know he is not nor has ever been my twinsoul, without him I wouldn´t be where or who I am today. and I am grateful for that.

But anyway, I believed. I was wrong. In a nutshell.

And that is probably the reason I never called anyone else my twinflame again. Cause if I have been wrong once, who sais I wouldn´t be again?

And also, because I never experienced anything remotely comparable to what I had experienced then. But I thought that was because I was so young. Maybe teenagers are the only ones capable of feeling THAT way, I thought. cause noone and nothing ever captivated my attention and touched my heart like he had done, until, well we all know THAT story. I do not need to retell it here.

But yeah, I was wrong once, so I might be wrong again, but really what does it matter, if I know the label for a feeling?
my perspective has changed, instead of naming a thing, I want to just experience it, and if I do not know the name for it, does it take away from the experience?
Not anymore, not for me anyway.

Nevertheless I AM extremely curious about if twinflames can be traced astrologically of course.
But for me personally?
I don´t think I will ever be able to call anyone my twinflame again and NOT have this doubt inside my heart, that I might be wrong again.

posted September 21, 2015 05:19 PM            

You may have your reasons to think he was your twin.I bet most or all the things you've experienced were out of you control.So why you changed your mind?!
I dont know much about your story but did you talked to him?Perhaps deep down inside you're just afraid of being close?Im being inconvenient,i know,but i just think you cant bury the story without knowing for sure.You need to confront him,your heart needs it.So just then you will be completely free.

posted September 21, 2015 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Which is probably why you need EXACTLY a composite like this!
Some people need more tension-aspects than others, and a Mars-Uranus-opposition along the 2nd-8th axis definitely is among those who need a little more intensity than others (like an own nuclear plant - a candlelight? like in a trine-sextile-synastry? well sure it would be nice, but it would not satisfy your natal needs).

That does not mean this will work out in the long run, but personally I find this composite to be a very coherent one, there is a lot of interdconnectedness. Just look at the visual!

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