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Neptune29
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posted September 21, 2015 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro Gurus,
I have a stellium in first house Pisces
Sun, Mercury, pallas and antivertex (orb 1-3 degree).
My neptune in 10 th house Sagittarius squares this stellium.also I found that this stellium is on a black hole
Also my nesus trines this stellium.
Curious about the effect of Neptune squaring aspect. Whether Neptune squaring in Pisces will make the aspect bitter or softer? Can someone interpret please?
Also I have found my twin flame and will eventually like to discuss natal aspects indicating a meeting with twin flame.
Some of them can be..
Venus, Neptune and mars/Jupiter grand trine
Venus conjunct eros
Uranus squaring nodes closely
Pluto moon conjunction in 8th house opposing Venus
Rudra kali conjunction

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posted September 21, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to IQ, Eros-Psyche opposition in natal is one of them! Very cool.
Unfortunally i dont have that hehe

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posted September 21, 2015 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to LL, Neptune29.

I am an active, working twin flame. Is there anything I can help you with specifically?

Identifying the correct astrological markers, signs, and variables which impact the connexion from being realised, is a part of what I'm to contribute to humanity in the third-dimension.

How long have you and your twin been together? When was it confirmed? How did you confirm your experience?

You ought to post your charts. We've currently gone 'back to the drawing board' regarding the astrology.

Natally speaking, there will be MANY configurations, as you can imagine, to indicate that one is a twin flame.

One of mine is the JUNO conjunct ALMA in the 1H with SATURN as my 5R on the SGC.

I hesitate to use black holes as 'confirmation' of anything. They are too plentiful, and, as of yet, hardly confirmed and very variable.

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posted September 21, 2015 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
According to IQ, Eros-Psyche opposition in natal is one of them! Very cool.

Actually, it's the conjunction. It's a 99% indicator of one's destiny in the current lifeline involving work to do with a high-level soulmate, and, potentially twin flame, should that be indicated elsewhere.

Likewise with ISIS conjunct OSIRIS.

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posted September 21, 2015 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AngaCrowley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like in twin connections the emphasis will be on the mission they share, because despite that not being focused on all too much, it's the whole point. things that indicate a shared direction, shared mission, will be prevalent. Vesta, mars, the nodes, to name a few. twins will each embody a part of what that mission entails, and will have spent lifetimes developing those attributes. so the charts together ought to paint a very clear, focused, and perfect picture. it should give you a strong, complete sense of direction and shared purpose, when placed together, and the mission should be the MOST represented thing. soulmates will be more about self work (which gets us to the point for our twin union), etc.

Just my intuition.

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posted September 21, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Actually, it's the conjunction. It's a 99% indicator of one's destiny in the current lifeline involving work to do with a high-level soulmate, and, potentially twin flame, should that be indicated elsewhere.

Likewise with ISIS conjunct OSIRIS.


Aw really?IQ told be about a probability of meeting your TF or knowing who they are when you have the opposition.Anyway the conjunction makes more sense,especially when it comes to ISIS/OSIRIS, wow!!

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posted September 21, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 21, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune29:
Thanks a lot Aubyanne
Actually nothing is spelt out between us and I am going through all these phases since many years. Still not spoken to him. I had sent some Synastry aspects to IQ and he said there is too much evidence in synastry for this.
If I see my chart standalone it seems really incomplete.. no asteroid pair aspects. But yes in synastry we have all... eros psyche, kali siva, siva parvati, isis osiris, ramachandran sita all... Double whammy 😊
We have alma juno exact conjunction, vertex descendant exact conjunction
Venus Pluto. Moon Pluto. Venus ascendant Venus mars again all double whammy...
I will surely post our charts but I can't do that unless I speak to him and I am going to do that soon.
He deserves to be aware of the divine connection I feel. I know we can not meet but still things need to be spoken...

Well, good luck, and I hope it works out.

I'm very sceptical of twin flame astrology these days. Especially since it misidentified my karmic soulmate as my twin, and didn't properly identify my actual twin flame.

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posted September 21, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AngaCrowley:
I feel like in twin connections the emphasis will be on the mission they share, because despite that not being focused on all too much, it's the whole point. things that indicate a shared direction, shared mission, will be prevalent. Vesta, mars, the nodes, to name a few. twins will each embody a part of what that mission entails, and will have spent lifetimes developing those attributes. so the charts together ought to paint a very clear, focused, and perfect picture. it should give you a strong, complete sense of direction and shared purpose, when placed together, and the mission should be the MOST represented thing. soulmates will be more about self work (which gets us to the point for our twin union), etc.

Just my intuition.


EXACTLY, Anga. That's exactly been my experience, too.

In some form, we've always represented two vantages of the same thing. Since we got together, we've been exploring everything from helping to resolve deeper sexual dysfunction, creating art together that explores multidimensionality and the eternal nature of the soul, as well as trying to expose propaganda in all of its forms, to bring greater illumination to humanity as a whole.

It's amazing, looking back to see how we were always doing this separately -- preparing, training -- him in one area, me in another, having similar backgrounds, but providing what the other lacks. It really is magnificent, when you consider all of the factors that had to be involved in order to bring this -- to bring us -- about.

But the real impact has been in our working together in these goals. How so many pieces fell into place, and are now forming this powerful shared mission with several interlocking facets.

You really put it beautifully. That's absolutely been my experience. Rather than the hearts-and-flowers romance thing, or trying to fit the context of a conventional relationship -- or thinking that a romantic relationship is the point. It may not even be the basis, or could be part of the karma you're to resolve, or, if factors are present, may be something undertaken. We're very much in love with each other, but it's because of these shared ideals, and this joint mission. We're 'conjoined twins attached at the muse', as he calls it. Which is quite telling, as he's been saying that since the beginning.

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posted September 21, 2015 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally, I don't trust the asteroid pairs anymore. So far, they've been very misleading. I have all of the conjunctions, trines, or major aspects with my karmic soulmate. And very few with my twin flame.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Incidentally, I don't trust the asteroid pairs anymore. .

same goes for me, too.

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posted September 21, 2015 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
same goes for me, too.

But for soulmates? Definitely! I guess that's why they're soulmate pairs after all?

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posted September 21, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 21, 2015 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AngaCrowley:
I feel like in twin connections the emphasis will be on the mission they share, because despite that not being focused on all too much, it's the whole point. things that indicate a shared direction, shared mission, will be prevalent. Vesta, mars, the nodes, to name a few. twins will each embody a part of what that mission entails, and will have spent lifetimes developing those attributes. so the charts together ought to paint a very clear, focused, and perfect picture. it should give you a strong, complete sense of direction and shared purpose, when placed together, and the mission should be the MOST represented thing. soulmates will be more about self work (which gets us to the point for our twin union), etc.

Just my intuition.


Mission versus Self Work! I like how you painted it.

It got me thinking sometimes the mission is the self work. NN to SN natals are about self work/inner transformation and in my case helping others as well transform and in the process I transform with them; that is what been a therapist is I feel; transforming, growing and healing together with the therapist being a very self aware and knowledgeable copilot.

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posted September 21, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Maybe you've just been using them for the wrong purpose then? I would never take those pairs to determine whether a synastry or composite is "TF" material or not. However, purely by instinct, I've been using them successfully for a different thing: as symbolic markers of the respective connection's type of Karma. To explain this a bit: It can be interesting to track (perhaps by making a chart) which asteroid pairs make DWs or connect especially closely not just in one type of chart, but over several chart types - tropical synastry, composite, Davison, Draco synastry, heliocentric, etc. I've found that while almost any asteroid pair will make some sort of connection in one of those charts, only a few will be present in several or even, all of them. Those pairs which seem to be especially predominant I would take as symbolic indicators of the purpose, type, and Karma of the relationship. It's only a working theory but it seems to yield interesting results for my own case, for what it's worth. To give an example: The Moon/Endymion story was not among my favorite myths before, I hardly knew about it. It's however a predominant pair in our synastry and I wondered why - until I incidentally found that in the lifetime immediately preceding this one, his name, then as a woman, meant "Moon". Her spouse died early and left her bereaved, but she continued to live on as if he were still alive, likely communicating with him in her dreams. Given this type of non-astrologically obtained knowledge, the myth becomes more meaningful to characterize the connection. There are many more such examples; so I would say that studying the symbolism of those myths that seem to be emphasized one by one has given me a lot of insight into the past, present, and potential future of the relationship.

I agree that asteroid couples bring light into your karma together and also gives a lot of information about the nature of the relationship and the destiny of the relationship.

None the less, I would think that asteroid couple connections would be present in both soulmate and TF connections as TF if they exist are the ultimate pair so how could there be no asteroid couple connection between the two in the composite or synastry.

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posted September 21, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune29:
Hi Astro Gurus,
I have a stellium in first house Pisces
Sun, Mercury, pallas and antivertex (orb 1-3 degree).
My neptune in 10 th house Sagittarius squares this stellium.also I found that this stellium is on a black hole
Also my nesus trines this stellium.
Curious about the effect of Neptune squaring aspect. Whether Neptune squaring in Pisces will make the aspect bitter or softer? Can someone interpret please?
Also I have found my twin flame and will eventually like to discuss natal aspects indicating a meeting with twin flame.
Some of them can be..
Venus, Neptune and mars/Jupiter grand trine
Venus conjunct eros
Uranus squaring nodes closely
Pluto moon conjunction in 8th house opposing Venus
Rudra kali conjunction

The two most emotionally intense relationships I have had involve a 12th house stellium, I do have moon in pisces so naturally 12th house stelliums in composite make me feel very emotionally fulfilled in a relationship.

Based on my personal experience although 12th house stelliums feel like a definite marker of a soulmate relationship and give this intense feeling of familiarity since they are karmic the relationship tends to end once the karma is paid but you never forget that person ever; they leave a mark in you forever and there will always be a special place in your heart for them.

Stelliums in composite involving the water houses tend to involve strong feelings and create a deep bond IME and from what I have read.

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posted September 21, 2015 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Actually, it's the conjunction. It's a 99% indicator of one's destiny in the current lifeline involving work to do with a high-level soulmate, and, potentially twin flame, should that be indicated elsewhere.

Likewise with ISIS conjunct OSIRIS.[/QUOTEI
IQ told me the opposition counts as well. I have this...and I'm pretty darn well convinced I've met my primary soulmate/TF whatever.

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posted September 21, 2015 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Actually, it's the conjunction. It's a 99% indicator of one's destiny in the current lifeline involving work to do with a high-level soulmate, and, potentially twin flame, should that be indicated elsewhere.

Likewise with ISIS conjunct OSIRIS.


Would both people have to have this in their natal chart? Or is it possible for one of the TFs/soulmates to have the markers, and the other is just a complement?

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posted September 21, 2015 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Maybe you've just been using them for the wrong purpose then? I would never take those pairs to determine whether a synastry or composite is "TF" material or not. However, purely by instinct, I've been using them successfully for a different thing: as symbolic markers of the respective connection's type of Karma. To explain this a bit: It can be interesting to track (perhaps by making a chart) which asteroid pairs make DWs or connect especially closely not just in one type of chart, but over several chart types - tropical synastry, composite, Davison, Draco synastry, heliocentric, etc. I've found that while almost any asteroid pair will make some sort of connection in one of those charts, only a few will be present in several or even, all of them. Those pairs which seem to be especially predominant I would take as symbolic indicators of the purpose, type, and Karma of the relationship. It's only a working theory but it seems to yield interesting results for my own case, for what it's worth. To give an example: The Moon/Endymion story was not among my favorite myths before, I hardly knew about it. It's however a predominant pair in our synastry and I wondered why - until I incidentally found that in the lifetime immediately preceding this one, his name, then as a woman, meant "Moon". Her spouse died early and left her bereaved, but she continued to live on as if he were still alive, likely communicating with him in her dreams. Given this type of non-astrologically obtained knowledge, the myth becomes more meaningful to characterize the connection. There are many more such examples; so I would say that studying the symbolism of those myths that seem to be emphasized one by one has given me a lot of insight into the past, present, and potential future of the relationship.

Love your thinking and research! Thank you!
We need all the fresh eyes we can get to be thinking of different and unique ways to approach these aspect and apply these connections. It seems the way we've been connecting them is not working as well as we'd hoped.
Way to many of us are growing tired of the confusion and inability to decipher what the real meaning is behind all this or if there is anything to even get excited about.
Who knows it could be that we will not see the fruition of these TF(?) relationships until another lifetime...perhaps we are only gearing up for a sequel.


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posted September 21, 2015 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Maybe you've just been using them for the wrong purpose then? I would never take those pairs to determine whether a synastry or composite is "TF" material or not. However, purely by instinct, I've been using them successfully for a different thing: as symbolic markers of the respective connection's type of Karma.

YES! I've had that idea myself a few times. What if it's an indication of type of rather than verification for?

Though, I'd expect more to be going on with PLUTO/HADES and PROSERPINA/PERSEPHONE.

And what the hell kinda 'pairing' is NESSUS/DEJANIRA, huh?

Great insight, as usual, Vajra.

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Vajra,

I see it exactly the same way. Not as confirmation/proof of anything, but just as descriptive of certain core themes between two people.

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posted September 22, 2015 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
YES! I've had that idea myself a few times. What if it's an indication of type of rather than verification for?

Though, I'd expect more to be going on with PLUTO/HADES and PROSERPINA/PERSEPHONE.

And what the hell kinda 'pairing' is NESSUS/DEJANIRA, huh?

Great insight, as usual, Vajra.


Hi,
We are always in a hurry to lable the relationship. The most important indicator of a tf connection is that your soul will recognise it.
Deep in my heart I know how special is this guy for me. Naming it a twinflame or soulmate will not change my feelings for him. Faith and patience is the key here. If he is the one truth will show up irrespective of any proofs.
When I look back I can see the way i have involved..eventhough nothing is spoken between us I understand the way he is suffering. There is still much inner work to be done.we can't unite infinitely without fulfilling our present relationships with respect.
If you listen to your inner voice you will not need any astrological evidence.
And if you have any doubt then either he is not the one or you are not ready for this connection.
But Astrology surely shows the connection. In our composite we have very strong nessus and Uranus
Nessus squares sun exact. Squares Pluto,squares Mercury biquintile moon.and we ARE NOT AT ALL ABUSIVE 😊.
I remember IQ said nessus dynamics are not active I'm case of tf.will post some more aspects in some time.


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posted March 10, 2018 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asterkind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump! Interesting thread.. thanks for all the insights..

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