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Neptune29
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posted September 24, 2015 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ, I have two grand crosses in composite
Uranus square vertex/mars/Jupiter square eros/Venus/vesta square south node
Nessus square sun (exact) square kali square Pluto all 3 degrees.
This seems to be explosive but it's not.
Can you please interpret?

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Randall
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posted September 24, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 25, 2015 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 0° conjunction of PLUTO and MARS in synastry with my boyfriend. But we're both very evolved individuals who don't find the value in risking our harmony for the benefit of ego by behaving 'explosively'.

However, I'm not sure I'd call Grand Crosses explosive. What are the orbs? Exactly 3°? A little under? Little over?

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Aubyanne
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posted September 25, 2015 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However, the Grand Cross we have in synastry (Cardinal) has great karmic significance to us.

His MOON-BML-NYMPHE-PROSERPINA opposite his MARS-LILITH conjunct my SUN-BML-PLUTO-JABBERWOCK square his MERC-VERTEX-DEJANIRA conjunct my SCHRODINGER-NYMPHE-MENTOR-NESSUS opposite my LIBITINA-ALICE-AMOR.

Pretty crazy.

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Neptune29
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posted September 25, 2015 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Aubyanne....I knew you will have something similar to share
The first grand cross is ..see clockwise
Uranus square vertex Orb7
Uranus square Jupiter Orb7
Uranus square Mars Orb 6
Uranus square North node Orb 2
(Vertex,jupiter, mars & North node all conjunct)
Vertex,Jupiter,mars& north node squaring Venus (2 to 4 Orb)
Venus square south node orb 2
South node square Uranus orb 2
This is a fixed grand cross

Second grand cross
Pluto square nessus Orb 5
Nessus square sun orb 0
Sun square Kali orb 3
Kali square Pluto Orb 2
This is a cardinal grand cross

I have read the below for Natal grand cross:
squares or oppositions in mutable signs are just beginning to manifest in this lifetime and are therefore the easiest to handle.
Squares or oppositions in cardinal signs, on the other hand, are carried over from our last lifetime. If handled appropriately through constructive action they won't manifest in the next life in fixed signs.
And squares or oppositions in fixed signs symbolize “lessons we have failed to learn over many lifetimes, and are deeply ingrained patterns of behavior.” Because hard aspects in fixed signs symbolize our will and have become habituated ways of being or responding, they need a great deal of attention and self-discipline to change.

But i am not able to relate this with composite & the planets involved..as i am not good in astrology..I got attracted to astrology because of this twin flame stuff or what ever the hell we may call this ...as you said earlier....
Struggling to let him go but my natal pluto conjunct moon in eighth opposes my venus not allowing me do that...life has become an emotional mess....

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Neptune29
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posted September 25, 2015 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aubyanne.. I was expecting your reply here

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Aubyanne
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posted September 25, 2015 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a lot, Neptune.

The truth is, it took me years to unravel everything happening in our Grand Cross. I can actually explain every piece of it to you. That wasn't easy to determine, or delineate.

To start, those are very wide orbs. Now, if I'm understanding correctly, VERTEX is conjunct JUPITER (0º) and MARS (1º). (Also, I'd never consider anything beyond 2º for VERTEX -- and potentially 1º30 for a square (rather than conjunction).

Now, again, I'm calculating here that NNODE is conjunct MARS (4º) and JUPITER (5º). I'll ... count it. I prefer to use such wide orbs in synastry, rather than composite. It's pretty wide for composite, but, for the sake of argument, we'll go with it.

Now, URANUS is square the NODAL axis, rather than just the NNODE. And yes, that's significant. In terms of the composite, there could be a mutual 'objective' that centres on the unconventional; the focus would have to do with freedom, liberation, and, in some ways, instability. Going against tradition. Being comfortable with not walking the straight and narrow.

Altogether, it appears to be URANUS square MARS-JUPITER-NNODE.

Now, it appears, from what I'm reading here, that VENUS is opposite URANUS? Is the orb 2º or 4º? I'm guessing this is correct, since VENUS is also square the NODAL axis.

It sounds to me that you have VENUS opposite URANUS square the NODAL axis. Regardless of JUPITER-MARS being involved (at the NNODE), there's a definite theme here.

MARS-JUPITER could be wonderful for academic or even spiritual projects and involvement. There's a great driving force there, which can be very philanthropic.

VENUS opposite URANUS, on the other hand, does indicate a very unconventional type of relationship which needs a lot of room and 'freedom to move', so to speak. It's not a conventional or traditional energy; VENUS being square the other end of the NODAL axis shows how aesthetics and even art could play a role here as well.

I'd really, really have to see the charts. Trying to understand it this way is very unnecessarily complicated, you know? I'm happy to help, but I have quite a lot to do, too.

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Neptune29
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posted September 26, 2015 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot Auby... If possible if you give an e mail id to which I can send these charts.. That would be great.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 26, 2015 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure thing, Neptune. Just click on my profile. You'll see it.

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Neptune29
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posted September 26, 2015 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Sure thing, Neptune. Just click on my profile. You'll see it.

Thanks but I checked your profile it says e mail ID not available

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