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angel4845
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posted September 28, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can this increase the chances of the energy of the planets EFFECT while aspecting the other's natal in synastry EVEN if there out of the 3 degree orb??

I ask this because again, my girlfriend's most highly dominant planet in her natal is her venus in taurus at 29 degrees in the 8th house her 8 ruler and i swear, I feel this effect SO MUCH im not even joking!! NONE of my planets are aspecting her venus in longitude synastry under 6 orbs BUT however her venus is parallel/contraparellel several of my planets APPLYING the 2 degree orb in declination.

how is that im feeling this effect so much YET she is not aspecting any of my planets in longitutde synastry?

she is conjunct my 9th house cusp and i know LeeLoo had said that is a major felt influence for me.

what are your opinions? facts behind this?

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angel4845
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posted September 29, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 30, 2015 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 degrees for what kind of aspect?

Orbs vary with planets, aspects, importance.

I have a 6 deg opposition between Moon and Venus in my synastry; being such an important opposition (and lovely in a synastry) it is felt stronger than other tighter aspects. This is happening for several other reasons, not just the warmth of this opp in general:

- he has a full 5th house and my Moon is opposing its mdp, so it activated the entire stellium there, the one including Venus; if my Moon had been in tighter aspect with his Venus, it wouldn't have been better, because it would have left the other planets/asteroids outside the aspect; it's actually an ideal orb in the context of our charts (his Venus catches many aspects to mine, to Mars Pluto Mercury Venus etc)

- the resonance between my Moon in Leo and him having a 5th stellium with Venus

- this opposition creating a powerful fixed cross with his Moon on my angles

That's why I recommend judging the power of aspects not just by orb, but in the context of the whole synastry and the matching symbolism of the natal charts.

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posted September 30, 2015 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
6 degrees for what kind of aspect?

Orbs vary with planets, aspects, importance.

I have a 6 deg opposition between Moon and Venus in my synastry; being such an important opposition (and lovely in a synastry) it is felt stronger than other tighter aspects. This is happening for several other reasons, not just the warmth of this opp in general:

- he has a full 5th house and my Moon is opposing its mdp, so it activated the entire stellium there, the one including Venus; if my Moon had been in tighter aspect with his Venus, it wouldn't have been better, because it would have left the other planets/asteroids outside the aspect; it's actually an ideal orb in the context of our charts (his Venus catches many aspects to mine, to Mars Pluto Mercury Venus etc)

- the resonance between my Moon in Leo and him having a 5th stellium with Venus

- this opposition creating a powerful fixed cross with his Moon on my angles

That's why I recommend judging the power of aspects not just by orb, but in the context of the whole synastry and the matching symbolism of the natal charts.


UGH! my apoligies i messed up on the orb my sun TRINE her venus at 8 orbs but parallel applying 2 degrees; and my intercepted pluto opposes her venus at 7 degrees, my mars quincuxs her venus at 3 degrees OUT OF SIGN - but contra-parallel within 1 orb, and many others. i have NOTHING that is touching her VENUS in taurus at 29 degrees but it is conjunct my 9th house cusp like how i've told you before.

LeeLoo how does your moon oppose his mdp?? how does this activate the stellium?? can i see your synastry?? i know your busy and i just really want to learn from you and what you are saying.

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posted September 30, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like this

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posted September 30, 2015 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last aspect in the series is Moon/Jupiter - a perfect quindecile.

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posted September 30, 2015 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
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ahhhhhhh i see it now yeah your moon in leo opposing his 5th house cusp and his stellium there in his 5th. dannnggg i will have to look and see what's going with my synastry. is his 5th house cusp aquarius? if so where's his uranus and what house and are you aspecting his uranus as well??

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posted September 30, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The last aspect in the series is Moon/Jupiter - a perfect quindecile.

yes your moon looks like its ALMOST opposing his jupiter but technically it is

and i see the grand cross too

that reminds me my brother and his wife have a DW VENUS MARS Quindicle but 3 degrees wide HOWEVER there's a parellel DW exact.

now that you mentioned the Quindicle her venus 29 tarus is quindicle my eros/psyche midpoint at 1 sag...

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posted September 30, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah no Angel, I wasn't looking at the opp with a cusp...a cusp ingress(which means very close to the cusp, max 3 deg) is symbolic and important but of course it can't replace planetary aspects. There is no aspect between my Moon and a cusp there.

here you see he has a full 5th house starting with POF (True Lilith is there too, but it's not in the chart and ending with Jupiter and my Moon opp all these planets/asteroids in the middle, energetically speaking...but Moon opposes only Venus, Juno, Ceres in orb, maybe Eros if we can consider wider orbs with Eros (5), I sometimes do; but the exact opp is on Juno/Ceres; however, Moon is also on his Jupiter/Venus mdp., so it covers the whole stellium; it practiclaly activates the whole 5th house

his Uranus conj mine (chart ruler) and my Uranus stellium, Q my Moon, actually part of a BQ Yod with Sun and Moon

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posted September 30, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
ah no Angel, I wasn't looking at the opp with a cusp...a cusp ingress is symbolic and important but of course it can't replace planetary aspects.

here you see he has a full 5th house starting with POF (True Lilith is there too, but it's not in the chart and ending with Jupiter and my Moon opp all these planets/asteroids in the middle, energetically speaking...but Moon opposes only Venus, Juno, Ceres in orb, maybe Eros if we can consider wider orbs (5); but the exact opp is on Juno/Ceres; however, Moon is also on his Jupiter/Venus mdp., so it covers the whole stellium; it practiclaly activates the whole 5th house

his Uranus conj mine (chart ruler) and my Uranus stellium, Q my Moon, actually part of a BQ Yod


yes i understand now, i would count eros just because its part of his stellium and how you were saying that your moon is also opposing his venus/jupiter mdp as well and yeah it activates his 5th house stellium there and adding True Lilith there you definetely enhance that.

AND on top of that i think that's very significant how the ruler of his stellium is conjunct your chart ruler niiiice

i totally can see this now.

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posted September 30, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, this is very nice, Angel, especially since it is my intercepted ruler and his whole 5th house is in my 1st

Do you have any planets aspects your girl's Venus within 6 deg?

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posted September 30, 2015 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, this is very nice, Angel, especially since it is my intercepted ruler and his whole 5th house is in my 1st

Do you have any planets aspects your girl's Venus within 6 deg?


traditionally speaking..... no unfortunately i dont. expect the conjunction on my 9th house cusp gemini which you are already aware of, ruler of my 9th house is mercury which conjunct her saturn & uranus mini stelium lol AND trine her Jupiter. and if we are talking about out of sign aspects YES there are. i' m going to have to look at the synastry and use what you have showed me and apply it there and see what i can find after work today LOL.

yes intercepted ruler that to me is significant, there is definetely balance there.

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posted September 30, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend has a packed 5H as well; I have a busy 2H (and 3H). I've always found this interesting, with his Taurus NNODE, and my Leo.

Then, his 5H is Aries, and my 2H is Libra.

There's a clear resonance there, balancing the NNODE energy, as well as the Aries/Libra. Even though the only aspect from my VENUS to his MARS is a contraparallel and his MARS being antiscion my VENUS.

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angel4845
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posted September 30, 2015 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, this is very nice, Angel, especially since it is my intercepted ruler and his whole 5th house is in my 1st

Do you have any planets aspects your girl's Venus within 6 deg?


okay so i just checked now and her venus is trine my ascendant applying 3 degrees. and her venus opposing my pluto within 6 degrees separating. her venus is not really forming a grand cross, grand trine nothing really too much. But its nice that her venus is trine my ascendant and true lilith

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