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Empty Spaces
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posted October 09, 2015 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read that is a unfortunate place to have the ASC (composite),do you agree?
Plus vertex is in 7th..then also 29 degrees.

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posted October 09, 2015 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard that a late ASC is negative in composite, or even holds much weight. I've only heard of degrees re: the asc being significant in horary.

Also, I read vertex in the 7th is one of the strongest indicators of marriage... Not sure why this would be bad, in any case.

I'd focus more on where the sun is in your composite, and all the other major aspects.

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posted October 11, 2015 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertex in 7th house Composite does not always show marriage. Just a fated and short lived relationship. I have had this placement with almost all my exes and I married none of them.

Now, ASC at 29 degree in Composite it's not bad. Just karmic. And significant, of course.

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posted October 11, 2015 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Vertex in 7th house Composite does not always show marriage. Just a fated and short lived relationship. I have had this placement with almost all my exes and I married none of them.

Now, ASC at 29 degree in Composite it's not bad. Just karmic. And significant, of course.


Fated? Definitely. Short-lived? Not necessarily, no. But, no, not necessarily marriage, either. But it can be a lifelong relationship -- even if it isn't a marriage.

VERTEX is in the 5H in composite with my husband, incidentally.

For my parents, (42 years) it's in the 6H, but 0º01 conjunct the DSC. Wow. Crazy.

A married couple I know who have been mad about each other for years, and are a very evolved set of individuals, have VERTEX in 6H as well, but 0º conjunct VALENTINE.

My husband and his ex-wife had it in 6H as well; not conjunct anything. (It was never a love marriage. He's from a Catholic family, so having a child out of wedlock was verboten.)

VERTEX in 7H 1º conjunct DSC with the man with whom I cohabited for 4 years in my twenties.

VERTEX in 5H conjunct NEPTUNE (0º) with college fiance.

VERTEX in 6H conjunct URA (0º) with my best friend (with whom I lost my virginity, and semi-cohabited in college).

He and his wife have VERTEX in 6H 0º conjunct BML. Huh, that's interesting. They only recently married, but have been living together since '07. He moved to her state in order to do so. They married this summer.

VERTEX in 6H conjunct CHIRON (0º) with my first polyamorous boyfriend in college. (Man, does that fit the experience.)

VERTEX in 7H conjunct DSC (1º) with second high school boyfriend. He ended up marrying the one that got away, many years later. We've remained very close friends and are significant in each other's lives. Both therapists. He and his wife nearly divorced after she decided she didn't want to be married anymore and went through a wild phase (two years ago). I helped him stay afloat where I could. They reconciled within about 8 months; he even had a girlfriend in the interim.

They have VERTEX in 8H, (a new one!) and not conjunct anything. Highly concentrated composite, too, packing the 10H -- SUN, MOON, MARS, MERC, VENUS, and SATURN. I knew they wouldn't really divorce.

VERTEX in 7H conjunct DSC (3º) with my most significant ex boyfriend, despite being so young (early college). We were deep soulmates, and to this day, credit each other with teaching one another what true love really is.

VERTEX in 7H, but not conjunct the DSC, for my godfather and his now ex-wife. They divorced in their sixties. He's also the man with whom my mother had a decade-long polyamorous relationship in the '80s.

VERTEX in 5H conjunct VESTA (2º) for he and my mom, incidentally.

VERTEX in 6H conjunct NNODE (1º) for Masters and Johnson. Heh! Sure fits their work.

VERTEX in 7H conjunct MOON (1º) and VENUS (3º) for one of my oldest best friends and her husband. LDR for years, as he's from a foreign country; met in early twenties; married in mid-twenties. Two kids. All she ever wanted was a happy family. She's happy as a clam.

VERTEX in 6H, not conjunct anything, for an engaged couple with whom I'm friends.

VERTEX in 7H conjunct CHIRON (3º) for my TV writer friend and his fiancee; they're marrying next February. Been together for awhile. Very happy, but low-key, pragmatic (and spiritual) individuals. She's a professional reader (tarot).

VERTEX in 5H, not conjunct anything, for my husband and his girlfriend.

VERTEX in 7H conjunct MERC (3º) for Chopin and George Sand. That's interesting, considering how prolific they were as diarists and correspondents.

VERTEX in 7H, not conjunct anything, for one of my best friends and her ex boyfriend. They were such a bonded couple, too. Never lost the love -- circumstances just never cooperated, and they tired of fighting them. Very sad.

VERTEX in 6H conjunct MERC (0º) and CHIRON (1º) for Brangelina, for what that's worth. Heh!

So, that's just a handful from my top 100 database.

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posted October 11, 2015 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are definitely conflicting reports about 7H vertex. I read in another thread on this website that people listed it as a strong indicator of marriage - or something they've seen a lot with couples who are married. So, in my opinion, there IS no "vertex doesn't mean marriage" or "vertex does mean marriage." It's just different depending on aspects, the couple, etc. Just answering the OPs initial stance that it might be a bad sign - I personally have never seen vertex in the 7H be an indicator that the relationship would NOT work out, but that's all in my personal experience.

My sister and her husband have vertex in 7H, as well as my mom and dad (who just celebrated their 37th wedding anniversary. Not an easy marriage at all, but they're still standing, and I don't blame the vertex placement for their pain.)

So IME, the 7H vertex is nothing to worry about re: commitment or lack thereof.

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posted October 11, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe there should always be a comparaison between the vertex and the anti-vertex...I mean the vertex might be in the 7th. I wonder if having malefics opposing it woldn't affect the time relationships last?

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posted October 12, 2015 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Vertex in 7th house Composite does not always show marriage. Just a fated and short lived relationship. I have had this placement with almost all my exes and I married none of them.

Now, ASC at 29 degree in Composite it's not bad. Just karmic. And significant, of course.



Hum thats interesting,thanks a lot for the help Rosalind.Btw the sun is in 12H (I know what you think about 12H placements,but thats not the point )The sun is on 0 degree..that is karmic too?

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posted October 12, 2015 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
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For my parents, (42 years) it's in the 6H, but 0º01 conjunct the DSC. Wow. Crazy.


Oh no the vertex is in 6H.Not in 7th.
Conjunct DSC too.Astro only appears as 0 so i dont know exactly but im pretty sure, is not so close like that...

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posted October 12, 2015 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
There are definitely conflicting reports about 7H vertex. I read in another thread on this website that people listed it as a strong indicator of marriage - or something they've seen a lot with couples who are married. So, in my opinion, there IS no "vertex doesn't mean marriage" or "vertex does mean marriage." It's just different depending on aspects, the couple, etc. Just answering the OPs initial stance that it might be a bad sign - I personally have never seen vertex in the 7H be an indicator that the relationship would NOT work out, but that's all in my personal experience.

My sister and her husband have vertex in 7H, as well as my mom and dad (who just celebrated their 37th wedding anniversary. Not an easy marriage at all, but they're still standing, and I don't blame the vertex placement for their pain.)

So IME, the 7H vertex is nothing to worry about re: commitment or lack thereof.


Yeah i agree.The vertex can help or not,but that must depends on the rest of the chart.
My grandparents have a sun/moon 0 degree conjunction but their relationship did not lasted.Massive fights between them.

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posted October 12, 2015 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our Composite:

I have vertex in the 7th with husband and we have been together for over 8 years; so not necessarily short lived and it can be an indicator of marriage but other factors need to be present to.

I have Uranus in scorpio at 29d with him squaring venus forming a tsquare with chiron near the IC. We have a healing effect on each other of past wounds. Uranus is an important planet for us and it semisextiles Jupiter which is in libra at 29d.

Uranus in Scorpio @29
Jupiter in Libra @29

I have to say both of those planets are important to us as a couple so perhaps 29d indicates an urgency for that planet to be expressed in the journey of the couple, planets that cannot be skipped and must be expressed in the journey of the couple.

I cant share the details but it was quite a ride which ended abruptly with us losing it all and involved risky career which at the core was about activism and politics so Jupiter in the 8th in libra at 29d and semi sextile Uranus in scorpio at 29d conjunct MC was a story about adventure, travel, risks, great gains and losses and about politics, beliefs and values connected to the higher mind and a cause we belief in and our philosophy of life. Uranus for us is a cause turned into a career that lead to great gains and losses.

So yeah those two planets are the planets in our composite that have caused the most excitement, change and havoc in our life and I guess in the end even though we lost it all we did not lose the most important thing thanks to Jupiter in libra pulling through I suppose for us.

So yeah planets in composite at 29d will leave a mark and will make their presence felt for sure!!!!!! that has been my experience.

On a side note I am noticing more and more that semi sextiles are powerful in composites, you think not but I am seeing otherwise, odd.

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posted October 12, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Our Composite:

I have vertex in the 7th with husband and we have been together for over 8 years; so not necessarily short lived and it can be an indicator of marriage but other factors need to be present to.

I have Uranus in scorpio at 29d with him squaring venus forming a tsquare with chiron near the IC. We have a healing effect on each other of past wounds. Uranus is an important planet for us and it semisextiles Jupiter which is in libra at 29d.

Uranus in Scorpio @29
Jupiter in Libra @29

I have to say both of those planets are important to us as a couple so perhaps 29d indicates an urgency for that planet to be expressed in the journey of the couple, planets that cannot be skipped and must be expressed in the journey of the couple.

I cant share the details but it was quite a ride which ended abruptly with us losing it all and involved risky career which at the core was about activism and politics so Jupiter in the 8th in libra at 29d and semi sextile Uranus in scorpio at 29d conjunct MC was a story about adventure, travel, risks, great gains and losses and about politics, beliefs and values connected to the higher mind and a cause we belief in and our philosophy of life. Uranus for us is a cause turned into a career that lead to great gains and losses.

So yeah those two planets are the planets in our composite that have caused the most excitement, change and havoc in our life and I guess in the end even though we lost it all we did not lose the most important thing thanks to Jupiter in libra pulling through I suppose for us.

So yeah planets in composite at 29d will leave a mark and will make their presence felt for sure!!!!!! that has been my experience.

On a side note I am noticing more and more that semi sextiles are powerful in composites, you think not but I am seeing otherwise, odd.


Aw so in your case you felt the planet with more intensity.I actually read two theories:One like you described and one when they said the planet was frozen.But none of those comments were based in personal experiences so is really important to read you comment.Thanks for sharing!
Ps:Btw Is good to know about the venus-uranus thing too since many people are utterly scared about that aspect.

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posted November 19, 2022 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for edenhardwicke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I read that is a unfortunate place to have the ASC (composite),do you agree?
Plus vertex is in 7th..then also 29 degrees.

I have my composite Ascendant in 29 degrees Pisces (Desc. in 29 Virgo) with my now-ex girlfriend, and it's an open question as to whether we'll get back together in the future. Our Vertex is exactly conjunct the Descendant, also at 29 degrees Virgo, in the 7th house.

Our relationship feels and has felt extremely fated, very profound, and life-changing for both of us. It's been an extremely loving and beautiful connection that we are both sad to have lost. We aren't sure what the future holds but things are over for now.

And I would also be curious to know more about this- what does it mean for the Asc/Desc. axis to be in 29 degrees of a sign?

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