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Aubyanne
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posted October 12, 2015 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Unbirthday! That is, to everyone who wasn't born this day some years ago.

My unbirthday gift to you, my dear friends, is something that's been percolating for awhile; ever since I contemplated manually calculating a Draconic chart -- which, technically, is the Rahu chart: that which places the NNODE at 0º Aries. The Ketu chart, therefore, is its direct opposite -- placing the NNODE at 0º Libra.

Luckily, that means exploring the Ketu chart is extremely simple -- which can be immediately checked by calculating the reverse Draconic, by placing the NNODE at 0º Libra.

Just take the opposite positions of the Draconic chart.

Yes. Really. See? I told you it was easy! Troublesome thing is, outside of manual calculation, there's no easy way to visualise it. Much like the position of true PRIAPUS, we've got to flip the sign in our heads. Fortunately, that's not tough to do.

And it's worth it. I'd be amazed if you didn't find the results absolutely gobsmacking.

I'll go ahead and start, again with my 'go-to' charts as an example.

So, my dASC immediately becomes 22º Libra, and his 0º Taurus. As much as my dASC at 22º Aries hits some very sensitive points in his tropical natal, I can't deny the prominence of 22º Libra -- his tropical MARS and LILITH (0º and 1º respectively) and my SUN, PLUTO, and BML (2º-1º).

That means my 20º Aries dVENUS transforms into 20º Libra, too. And a 2º tropical to Draco opposition -- or, tropical to 'Ketu' conjunction -- of MARS and VENUS -- is nothing to scoff at!

There may be a bevy of hidden aspects here that we'd never quite noticed before.

But the greater question is -- what do they mean?

Well, if the Draco is the path of our soul's evolution -- especially, what it is that we're 'evolving' to become -- then the 'Ketu chart' (for lack of better) would be where we've been. Perhaps not what we're trying to leave behind, as much as a true indication of the journey we've taken along the way.

Ergo, this might be a wonderful way to explore soulmate astrology further, as we find deep interconnexions between our tropical charts with these Ketu placements in the synastries and composites with our most powerful soul connexions and karmic relationships. Those with whom we share many lifelines.

The natural relationship to Libra might indicate why it's connected to partnerships, companions, and even soulful love connexions across time. Plenty further would need to be explored -- but it's a nice start. These 'transformations' could fill in some gaps and bring greater clarity to some of our most cherished, or even most perplexing, soul-based connexions and karmic relationships.

Along with the 'kVENUS' conjunct MARS, suddenly my kSUN is conjunct his ASC -- as well as his own 'kSUN' being conjunct it, 1º. His kVALENTINE is now conjunct my EROS, 2º. His kSATURN is even 1º conjunct my VENUS! Karmic, indeed.

What can you find?

Have fun!

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Ceridwen
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posted October 12, 2015 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy birthday!


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I pulled some lenormand cards for what the new years is going to bring to you.

RING - KEY - MOON


LOL

A fated very significant (key) relationship and commitment (ring), based on a deeply romantic emotional connection (Moon).

If you weren`t already married, `d say this might be the year to get married for you.

Oh and great thread idea. I have been toying with that idea myself, as I think the North nodal and the south nodal chart should be seen together actually, and we tend to focus so much on the Draco that it disturbs the balance, frankly.

Well I do keep an eye on the Ketu-chart, as you call it, which is a great title for differentiating between the two btw (oh and should we not then call the Draco really Rahu chart?) whenever I see oppositions from the Dracos to the natal, as I know that these are more more aligned with the Soutch Node than the North node, really.


Funny enough I think it makes sense, as it puts my stellium into Virgp-Libra, and that might be where I have been coming from, personality wise.

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hypatia238
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posted October 12, 2015 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Birthday Auby!!!!!!!!!!!! and Happy Solar Return, may all your wishes come true!

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Ceridwen
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posted October 12, 2015 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I find in my own Ketu chart compared to my natal, well what INSTANTLY springs to mind is this:


kMoon on 7 Sagittarius, EXACT on my tASC, and 3 degrees off my tNN, of course it means that DMoon is on my tDESC and tSN.

It just seems clear that I am going back to where I was once before, that there is a bit of a steady core, that I pulled into the NOW, too, as the KMoon on my tASC clearly shows. Especially my emotional being of before is strongly influencing the way I "go out into the world"; however the DMoon on SN-DESC, also shows that in my case it is not about leaving it all behind, but revisit the past (SN) with a bit of a new twist though, instead of getting into the identity thing (which I apparently already have done, KMoon on tASC), my emotional evolution (DMoon) is going into the direction of relating to others (tDESC).


Or how would you interprete it?

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posted October 12, 2015 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW do I see it right, Auby?
You have a New Moon in your solar Return chart? And look at HOW close it is, and additionally opposing URanus.
I suppose you are in for quite a ride in the next year, everything will start a new. It`s almost like a "(re)birth-chart".
and well it makes sense that I pulled the MOON for you then in lenormand, I guess.

BTW2:
my kSun is conjunct your tSun (though it is not exact)

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Gabby
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posted October 12, 2015 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Birthday Aubyanne! Have an awesome solar return!! 🌹🌷🌹

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Ceridwen
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posted October 13, 2015 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 13, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy B'day Auby!!

I had a New Moon on my birthday this year.. it has been a life changing experience!
Hope you enjoy yours! Many wishes

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posted October 13, 2015 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope you had a great birthday!

My draconic sun 25 Taurus
My south node 20 Taurus

Such a conundrum. Up is down, backwards is forwards.

Draconic moon 28 Cancer
Ketu moon 28 Capricorn

Makes no sense to me, has no relevance to any synastry I've known. Except I think maybe my ketu moon is conjunct Randall's sun, and I spend a lot of time on his site. Too much time. South node stuff? LOL

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posted October 13, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`ve focused on the natals and the "developmental axis" from Ketu-Draco/Rahu-chart.

In my chart that includes
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IC conjunct kKARMA - MC conjunct dKARMA
which means that my Karma is apparently evolving into becoming more visible, maybe even more career-oriented or simply something having to do with my official social status, whereas I probably have already done my job in terms of family.

Sun conjunct k CERES -...

NN conjunct kMoon - SN conjunct dMoon
SN conjunct kCupido - NN conjunct dCupido

I find that interesting, it seems to emphasize that theme even more, almost like I have already been a mom or maternal figure in the past, or hett least providing emotional caring and support possibly in a family context (because of the IC-Karma-link in the Ketu-chart)

As balancing factor I find it interesting that in the Draco/Rahu chart there is NN conjunct xCUPIDO (and that one is under one degree!)
Almost like evolving from that maternal caring figure (in what way ever) into a more "let`s fall in love" kind of way.


in terms of the Maternal symbolism however, while Sun conjunct kCERES and IC conjunct kKARMA, linking it to the past along with DMoon on SN, there is ALSO CERES conjunct dANTEROS on 9 Pisces exact. So I am not completely done with Ceres as it seems, but I am not quite sure what that really means here.
Anteros has something to do with reciprocration probably, I am reciprocrating maternity when it comes at me, sort of like a "second-hand-mother" ? lol
No, no clue really what that means.

Something else that came up was the Juno-link

Venus conjunct kJUNO on 6 Capricorn exact
JUNO conjunct dVALENTINE exact (but not the same degree 16, 17 Pisces)

Now I find that interesting as it seems like love in some form seems to carry over from before. Well what IS the difference between Venus and Valentine?
What`s the change here?

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KARMA itself was interesting too

ALMA conjunct kKARMA
KARMA conjunct dBML

- both, Alma and the Black Moon have something to do with soul and lunar symbolism; it seems however that my very personal soul becomes a bit more individualistic and grows a set of "teeth and claws".
Or it simply means learning to be not afraid of showing the more BML side of my being.

Well who sais BML, should check for Priapus as well, so I did.

Priapus conjunct kPluto (0-Leo, 28 Cancer)
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Anteros conjunct dPriapus on 19 Scorpio

nnot sure what to make of it.


And I also looked up ORCUS, as he is having to do with oathes and what promises you NEED to honour or you will be punished.

ORCUS conjunct kPluto-MC
ORCUS conjunct dALMA-IC

Well that IS intriguing, a merry go round, but ultimatively it may mean that I still have to do the soul-family-thing, but the stakes are raised higher somehow. I did do the commitment and oath to Pluto-MC, which might be the reason for it becoming so tied to my DKarma.
But for a future development there is a commitment or at least promise towards my soul-family, and one I better not break.


Oh another thing was that my Vesta is exact conjunct kJupiter on 1 Cap - might mean a more spiritual or religious - ritualistic inclination in the past, though the SAbian of 1 Cap, speaking of war and destruction, not such a good thing I think.

EDIT
Also of course there still is

ASC conjunct kMoon - DESC conjunct dMoon

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 13, 2015 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused by iq having referenced the rahu draconic chart as being about past lives in our communications. I wondered about it at the time and I still wonder.

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posted October 13, 2015 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, oftentimes the Draco charts are referred to as past-life-oriented, but I don´t believe that`s true. After all there are two ends to this axis, the SN and the NN. the SN is usually regarded as what we carry over from the past and the NN is our pull into the future/ development.
However, sinc ethe Draco charts are being calculated on the basis of the NORTH Node, any conjunction in there (to tropical) would have NORTH nodal character. How could that be about the past?
Though of course per polarity the other end still influences the North Node, too. we need to know where we come from.

If you have been in communication with IQ, he probably will also have mentioned that the Draco chart represents the past life experiences "that we carry over into this incarnation", indicating that we do not just see any random past life scenario there, but only those which are instrumental for us to follow our path in THIS life.

However the KEtu chart is really much more resonating with past experiences, as conjunctions in that chart have south node character.

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posted October 13, 2015 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"If you have been in communication with IQ, he probably will also have mentioned that the Draco chart represents the past life experiences "that we carry over into this incarnation", indicating that we do not just see any random past life scenario there, but only those which are instrumental for us to follow our path in THIS life."

Riiight. Yes. How things have shaped up to give form to the present quest for destiny/fulfillment.

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