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Keela
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posted October 13, 2015 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know quindeciles are said to bring obsessiveness to things and a relationship between two people and/or a pair of planets or an asteroid, but does any of it last? Does it burn out as fast as it's strong? Or is it something that keeps going and going and can't be "killed" even if you wanted to? Are we talking a mutant terminator fixed on you, no matter the timeline?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Probably mostly because have never seen synastry with as many quindeciles going on all over the place as in someone introduced to me before the eclipse. And I suppose for two weeks it's all over the place, or in deep depths or whatever the best way to note an unusually rapid developing to both vulnerable topics and rampant sexuality. Some regions as if seeing everything in a short time already, when with many others they'd never get anything such out of one or the other person no matter how long the talks or friendship/whatever.

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posted October 13, 2015 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In other quindecile related questions:

Pluto conjunct Valentine was denoted by IQ to be love strong enough to start wars, à la Helens and Trojan wars, but what does Pluto quindecile Valentine do in comparison then? It's obsessive or shall we put it focused, likely, but how does the quindecile aspect compare to a conjunction, and what do you do with it?

Composite in my example, but synastry talk does either way as well, of course.

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posted October 13, 2015 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At a glance, in the above synastry it's quindeciles between some of the following. Exact or 1 degrees or such as recall. Listing points as well despite possibly not responding, and for me to remember later if nothing else.

Moon to Venus
Sun to Mars
Pluto to Moon (also Moon opp Pluto)
Jupiter to ASC and Merc from his Sun/Moon MP
NN to DC / SN to ASC
Eros to SN
Eros to Aphrodite
(Aphrodite 2 deg to DC)
Mars to Antivertex
Mars to Karma (2 deg, both ways DW)
Vesta to Venus
SN to Vesta
Saturn to Juno (with Juno trine Sat)
Amor to Pluto (2?)
Amor to Psyche, Tyche
Psyche to Cupido (2)
ASC to Amor
Valentine to SN (with SN conj Valentine)
Neptune to Valentine
Osiris to Tyche (2)
Tyche to Isis

May add/edit later. Need sleep.

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posted October 13, 2015 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noel Tyl describes them as "unrelenting motivation", as a constant source of drive and focus, so I should say they should be a source of constant pull towards the person, sometimes despite other factors that may say no. If we consider his description (which he says is the result of studying over 1000 cases), we should find them in love stories where there is constant fascination and pull towards merging, similar with Pluto energy.
I think they might be present in persistent unrequited loves and crushes too, where despite the connection being impossible, the person still hangs in there or would always come back, if given the chance. But I think this person should have obsessive/compulsive structures in their natal too, such as strong Pluto and their own quindeciles in order to "fall" for it.
People are receptive to obsession always based on their natal chart.

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posted October 13, 2015 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto's the ASC ruler one way, trine DC the other, and I think he has quindeciles as well. Both charts with them, two Sun opposite Moon people with Pluto contacting the other's Moon in some way.

As for this, would say it's not unrequited (although not love either ofc, at such a stage) but is at the very least difficult if not on an "Off any practical realms" side. And not grudging him that in any way, since other things make it much better he continue where he is, as if some benevolent well-wishing "My dear, let me help you with that even if things otherwise aren't go" with distance or whatever. SN-Valentine contacts, whatever.

Basically know the Tyl type things from previous threads, but wondered what the long term effect is. Unrelenting could suggest it, but can never be sure.

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posted October 13, 2015 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
their own quindeciles in order to "fall" for it.



That is actually what Ricky Reeves wrote in her book about quindeciles, too.

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posted October 13, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Dad has two quindecile-Yods natally as I just see.


Mercury semisextile Chiron exact and both in quindecile to Uranus (wide though)


and Pluto-Saturn-semisextile quindecile to Vertex


and Moon quindecile Neptune


My Mom has natally

Venus quindecile Ceres
Jupiter quindecile Neptune
Uranus (on ASC) quindecile Chiron


Not sure how much those count.


synastrically they have

his ASC quindecile her Ceres
his MC quindecile her Chiron
his Vx quindecile her Venus
his Sun quindecile her Pluto
his Saturn quindecile her Ceres
his Pluto quindecile her Ceres

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posted October 14, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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posted October 15, 2015 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with someone. He has natal Sun-Pluto-Moon quindeciles (Pluto as apex) (his Sun-Moon-Venus are all 30 degrees from each other). I put my Pluto exactly between his Sun and Venus, so we have these quindeciles (my Pluto-his Sun and my Pluto-his Venus) in our synastry (some others as well if I can remember, but not so signifcant). I have a mars-saturn quindecile in my natal.

It is very obsessive and has lasted 3 yrs. We cant be together. But yes, it lasts. And is awfully obsessive.

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posted October 15, 2015 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His MARS quindecile my VENUS.

Why the hell else would we have put each other through THIS much hell, long-distance, with me married, he being a sociopath, and for a decade?

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posted October 16, 2015 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
His MARS quindecile my VENUS.

Why the hell else would we have put each other through THIS much hell, long-distance, with me married, he being a sociopath, and for a decade?


Am I reading that right and you mean the "ex" thing, not current men in your life? Or is that bf?

Also, in light of that, any opinions on some of the quindeciles mentioned in my example? (Yes, the Furies/Nodes/Morden one. Which I need to email to you about, because Things Not Wanted In Public and being in the line of things you've said you do. We got deep in some regions fast in any case, Moon-Pluto or whatever.) Amor-Cupido-Eros-Psyche-Aphrodite links say anything to you compared to your "Mars qd. Venus" thing?

Moon to Venus
Sun to Mars
Pluto to Moon (also Moon opp Pluto)
Eros to SN
Eros to Aphrodite
(Aphrodite 2 deg to DC)
Vesta to Venus
SN to Vesta
Saturn to Juno (with Juno trine Sat)
Amor to Pluto (2?)
Amor to Psyche, Tyche
Psyche to Cupido (2)
ASC to Amor
Valentine to SN (with SN conj Valentine)
Neptune to Valentine
Osiris to Tyche (2)
Tyche to Isis

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posted October 16, 2015 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear God, now it's all starting to make sense

My Pluto quindecile his sun/Venus

Hellllllp

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