posted October 14, 2015 08:47 AM            

Ceri, I just had this thought recently, if a synastry strongly aspecting a natal peregrine would create a Sleeping Beauty awakening effect, in the sense that a natal peregrine is very special, but in a less obvious way to the person, it could be dormant in the first half of life, the person may not be aware how special they are, with that planet. However, when someone makes strong aspects to that planet, it gets activated and we get in touch with our peregrine strongly, we become aware of it. This can be connective or separative; it probably is separative if the rest of the synastry is not to our taste, and strongly connective if it is ( our peregrine feels useful and integrated).

I noticed this strong activation of the peregrine planet, for good or bad, after several cases.

What do you think, Ceri? Am I going in the right direction of thought? I am also asking you in your peregrine quality I know you have two peregrines and one is the Moon, so you must have felt it, if there is truth in this theory.
I have Uranus peregrine and I have to look at my relational patterns too, although for me it is difficult, being such a slow outer, everyone touches it, more or less.

Everyone, how did you feel when someone activated your peregrine planets, what happened? What happened when they didn't? How did you feel this lack of touch?

I am using Tyl's term: a peregrine is "any planet not making a Ptolemaic aspect in the horoscope. [Conjunction, sextile, square, trine, or opposition]"

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posted October 14, 2015 08:56 AM            

In psychology, the term awareness is very important. At least for some humanistic branches of it. In other words, we may have certain traits and talents and use them all the time, but awareness is a culmination when it comes to "owning" them; it's as if this is the moment when they are born or reborn, the moment they move into consciousness. That's a process similar to the psychoanalytical movement from unconscious to conscious.

To put is simply, one doesn't fully own a quality (trait) until they acknowledge it, they become aware of it. It's like looking in the mirror for the first time. You do exist until then, for sure, but you've never seen yourself, so you're just half "existent".
The moment of awareness is like an awakening and triggers a long complex process of consciously making that trait as part of your "official", conscious identity.

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posted October 14, 2015 09:47 AM            

you know how to call a progressed Moon in Leo.

And yes I agree with you, all of it.

Well there are people who would not call my Moon peregrine, because of the 8 degree trine to Pluto. I however do. What I mean is we would probably have to agree on a certain orb to figure out if it is really a peregrine planet.
My Moon is a complicated issue, not only is there the very wide trine to Pluto, but also the exact quinkunx to Saturn (which is not a ptolemaic aspect of course, but it has an effect, though the effect of isolated quinkunxes resembles peregrine planets anyway ), but my Moon is also involved in a very tight declinational picture, parallel Uranus (and Juno) and contraparallel Pluto
(ha there is the Pluto again. lol)

No seriously though, I do consider it peregrine, as I also consider my Uranus peregrine, or jsut barely not peregrine if we count the sextile to Venus, it`s under 5 degrees so we could do that, but my Uranus does feel peregrine to me.

And then there is also a peregrine "duet", the Sun-Mercury-conjunction floating above everything and not connected to other planets.

My whole freaking chart (except Venus and Mars) seems to be made up of peregrines (including the luminaries and possibly Uranus).

When it comes to my Moon, it is interesting to me, but I seem to prefer the dynamic aspects in friendships, but there they happen often, and most often coming with a conjunction or opposition to Saturn (recalling my natal Moon-Saturn-quinkunx now, aren`t you? .
It always intrigued and surprised me though to see that aspects to my Moon are quite missing in the synastry with P. You would have thought there were many. But especially tight ones are missing.
However there IS his Pluto trine my Moon by 4 degrees (and naturally square my SAturn by 4 degrees). not an easy aspectfigure, but in my own observation of my chart, I notice the Pythagorean triangle come up quite often. Not an easy one.

One thing that of course might figure into this is the fact his solar arc Pluto is always trine my solar arc Moon exactly, hence through age difference making this seemingly wide orb very very tight.

Just keeping notes here. lol

The other candidate, Uranus, it is VERY pronounced when it comes to P, too. Not so much in terms of synastry, but it is fascinating to see how much it is activated in progressions, and how much I seem to represent some "Uranian" factor to him (along with some others).
For me well when we first met I was having just a waxing quarter Moon from p Sun on 00 Aquarius (!) to pMoon on 00Taurus (on my 5th cusp), which of course opposed my n Uranus on 01 Scorpio. Go figure!

Though I think I have always been quite Uranian in nature, but it got more pronounced maybe.
BTW the first crush I had on a performer ever, this one had his Venus on my 5th house cusp opposing my Uranus.

While an activation of Uranus seems to be very fascinating to me, it does not really happen in friendships, though there will be a lot 11th house or Aquarius-energy, and the Uranus aspects will show in the composite. but if I think back there was no real strong activation of my n Uranus through the synastry.

And then we have the Sun-Mercury, something I seem to have avoided for most of my life as funny as it seems. Never really identified with being a Sag either, though of course Mercury in conj. to Sun is very much me.
Anyway I managed to evade this in pretty much all my friendships and even crushes, the only aspects I seemed to have welcome were squares from Saturn (of all aspects. lol).

There were occasionally a sextile or trine, usually from Saturn as well, but really, my Sun-Mercury stayed untouched in my friendships and even crushes.

Well until P sort of broke into my life. I mean you know how much energy he is jolting at my Sun-Mercury.lol
It was a shock, to be honest. But it also was that feeling of identification, of "you remind me of who I really am".
What I had not expected and learned to deal with, is the constant pulling into the spotlight.
I mean my Sun is in 1st house on the GC - so I suppose centre-stage is what it really is about. lol
But I just managed to sort of avoid that (or not taking conscious notice maybe, I suppose I was visible before, too, I just did not realize), until it became impossible.
I mean it IS really impossible to deny you are in the spotlight when the freaking spotlight is LITERALLY directed at you!

Also, there is this feeling or fear or I don`t know what it is that I am forgotten the minute I walk out of a door. It`s not even a bad feeling connected to that, I just can`t imagine anyone would remember me (Mercury-Sun in 1st house? ), especially not someone I met just in superficial ways, shortly and who must be meeting a myriad more interesting people than me.
Well, it only took P about 7 years or so to get it into that stubborn head of mine that yes, he indeed recognized me and remembered me, and probably did so even from the second time we met. lol
I AM stubborn so and tend to get fixated on ideas, and in this case the fixed idea was about being "un-remembered".
Anyway, I think this might be that floating, unanchored Sun-Mercury-conjunction in my chart.

BTW not even my parents aspect it very strongly. My Dad does not at least. My Mom has her Moon squaring my Sun-Mercury, so that counts for something (we could maybe argue my Dad`s out of sign Moon on 1 Taurus was widely trine it, too).

But anyway, it seemed like that Sun-Mercury really only woke up, and the potential got slowly activated once Pluto transited over it. Which curiously coincided with the first time I ever saw P (and him me, even more strangely - he wasn´t supposed to, after all he was supposed to perform on stage, and he was not supposed to leave stage and run up the stairs and threaten to point that micro at me, which was the very first time we saw each other. I doubt he remembers THAT though, even though to ME it was a shock, and I think I might have literally hid behind my friend`s backs. lol)

But yes that was my Tr Pluto conjunct Sun-Mercury-story, and it`s simply funny it coincided with that incident (btw I did not crush on him back then at all, and in fact I did not see him nor did I plan to see him again after that; it was just a curious incident, nothing else. and when I saw him again 2 years later, it was another coincidence and not planned at all. at least not by me).

posted October 14, 2015 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
it's as if this is the moment when they are born or reborn, the moment they move into consciousness. That's a process similar to the psychoanalytical movement from unconscious to conscious.

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posted October 14, 2015 11:16 AM            

my Venus is peregrine in Libra in the 12th... my Sun only has an 8°37 conjunction with Pluto and a trine (3°) with Ceres. I found a recently published children's astronomy book at the library which listed Ceres as a dwarf planet and I'm beginning to feel she is DEFINITELY a planet, so in honour of Gaia I give up my peregrine sun title *phew* (edit: it may not be that easy though :laughing

That Venus though... she is rarely heavily aspected in my synastries.. when she is touched I do feel it's extremely significant.
I think I'm still unlocking the potential there, given she's a 12th house'er.

I don't know if the description of peregrine planets Tyl has given suits the notion that they would be dormant until awoken; he has them as driving forces in the chart, with the native acutely aware of the lack of stimulating energy around them and over-compensating, kinda deal? But I feel what you're saying here, and maybe they can drive a person in a subtle, overwhelming way without being fully recognized, but when they are activated in synastry the energy begins to be awoken and to be integrated--and mellow a bit even into the realm of the living--or intensify! Depending..??

posted October 14, 2015 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

This can be connective or separative; it probably is separative if the rest of the synastry is not to our taste, and strongly connective if it is ( our peregrine feels useful and integrated).

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Yes! I feel almost like aspects to my Venus occur in a vacuum... they are so important to me. But of course the rest of the synastry will affect how they play out, and the igniting of my Venus is also maybe going to be a prime factor in how I choose to operate whether it's going well or not... for instance in my recent relationship, it was his Mars loosely sextile my Venus. Despite all the difficulty I still appreciate being appreciated by him, and act in a way which is I think soothing and conciliatory, despite his Mars also squaring my Pluto/Mercury! Venus colours our ongoing interactions (at least when he's at arms length--like two cities away--on his best behaviour!!)

When I look at isolating Venus aspects in synastry I kinda feel like a new person... especially in the realm of relatedness. It is amazing to me that people think of me and I of them, and we have mutual appreciation, likes, dislikes... lol... amazing. Hard to explain.

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It's a bit like becoming aware how special and unusual you are with the help of another person, when they activate it.

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In psychology, the term awareness is very important. At least for some humanistic branches of it. In other words, we may have certain traits and talents and use them all the time, but awareness is a culmination when it comes to "owning" them; it's as if this is the moment when they are born or reborn, the moment they move into consciousness. That's a process similar to the psychoanalytical movement from unconscious to conscious.

To put is simply, one doesn't fully own a quality (trait) until they acknowledge it, they become aware of it. It's like looking in the mirror for the first time. You do exist until then, for sure, but you've never seen yourself, so you're just half "existent".
The moment of awareness is like an awakening and triggers a long complex process of consciously making that trait as part of your "official", conscious identity.

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posted October 14, 2015 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Peregrine" in a classical/ medieval astrological sense means a planet without dignities (like rulership, exaltation, triplicity, face or term) or debilitation (fall or detriment), actually my Moon is peregrine in that sense, too.

Noel Tyl "redefined" the term (and we could argue about that a few hours) and called planets "peregrine", which are unaspected, in the sense they do not have a major ptolemaic aspect within a certain orb (I think he uses a 6 or 7 degree orb, and less for the sextile).

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ohh yeah! That's why I wasn't considering my Venus peregrine before and focusing on the Sun... Venus is in Libra.

Harumph. Wanted Venus to be peregrine. I guess 12h, unaspected is close enough! Glad it's not in detriment or fall to boot... although I guess if we were using Sidereal it would be dangerously close... *not looking*

posted October 14, 2015 12:41 PM            

I was saying it could be a strong mirroring with the aspects to it from another person because while we may be aware there is something unusual about us from an early age, something original (perhaps dissonant from the upbringing or environment, also a form of mirroring, unless in excellent cases of peregrine support like with Ceri and parents ) it takes time and maturity to fully REALIZE, as in integrate in consciousness, what exactly we are different about and how to bring that uniqueness into the world.
I mean even if it happens early or later, we do need something or someone to compare with, a contrast, or meeting someone similar, someone who puts our uniqueness in a good light, to even become aware of it and begin using it consciously.

Ideas about them:

Noel Tyl

Peregrine Planets: A ship without a rudder

Focus of thought and direction is a key to organization, management of behavior, and clarity of action. Yet there are people who may subconsciously be reacting to unknown conditions that can be identified in their chart as being something of a ship without a rudder, or better, the motor or sails at full speed and no one at the helm! Such a circumstance may occur when an individual has a peregrine planet in his/her chart. A peregrine planet as defined here means a planet without a challenge to harness and counter-balance its energy so that it can be applied with some form of structure and management.

The word “peregrine” here means “wanderer. The phrase has come under dispute regarding its original and new meaning, and in this example now, is a planet without a major challenge: a stalemate/opposition of 180 degrees, or a “who goes first?” head-butt of a 90-degree square; the “like minds join together” of a conjunction with less than 10 degrees of union*; the interlocking pyramid of a 120-degree trine; or the distant shining star of a 60-degree sextile. To explain this, the words of master astrologer, author, and lecturer Noel Tyl’s web site (noeltyl.com), from his essay on Analytical Techniques on August 31, 2007: How Peregrination becomes important

All of us should be able to give a clear definition of peregrination: any planet not making a Ptolemeic aspect in the horoscope. [Conjunction, sextile, square, trine, or opposition] (Ptolemeic refers to Ptolemy, a Greek mathematician and astrologer who identified five types of challenging interaction and their impact on the psyche.) The square, trine, opposition, sextile, and conjunction are the qualifying aspects.

Indeed, there are theoretical strictures that Astrology places upon this base definition that involve {the terms} dignities, debilitations, final dispositorship, and more. In my opinion, trying to define the condition more specifically, theory clouds the issue and diminishes application.

I have pushed the envelope of our learning to go past these ancient strictures, because, empirically, it is very clear that they do not change the manifestation image of a peregrine planet. The classically unaspected state is enough to qualify. [Please see Tyl’s Synthesis & Counseling in Astrology, pages 155-190.]

All of us should know that that the word “peregrine” comes from the Latin meaning “across, through, or beyond the border.” Our word “pilgrim” derives similarly from the Latin pelegrinus, an alternative form of peregrinus. The meaning sense is being foreign, alien. But what does all that mean? What do we learn from the derivation of the “peregrine state”?

I have an interesting image in my mind every time I discuss peregrination: I think of the United Nations in New York City: the delegates from foreign countries to the U.N. are basically exempt from United States laws. A hit-and-run traffic incident involving a delegate driver or a member of his/her family, for example, will result in a warning to the embassy of the country or to deportation of the individual, i.e., he or she loses the job at the U.N. In other words, being in the state of the U.N. offers to an individual very special freedoms. A pilgrim far from home is given respectful audience.

A peregrine planet is in such a state. It is “far from home” (the Sign it rules) and will potentially act up, act out, in terms of the House it rules, representing the issues of its home base. For example, relationship will become a cause celebre in life development if the planet ruling the sign on the 7th cusp of partnerships is peregrine.

Sun/Moon peregrine: when the Sun {the soul’s core identity of ego) or Moon (emotional sensor; reflexive responses when challenged by social encounters; how the soul was nurtured or not by a mother-figure) is peregrine, we have a core development issue focus: I like to say that the individual learns very soon in life that he or she is basically untethered; i.e, not necessarily “wild,” but not assimilated with others: the world does not quite understand them, and they do not quite understand the world. Usually this leads to a state of idiosyncrasy. Even a dissociated complex about individuality fitting into the scheme of things is possible. I observe that someone with the Sun or Moon (or both) peregrine dances to a different drummer!

Hillary Clinton has a peregrine Sun ruling her 9th of lawful engagement with social and spiritual values, which is an extremely powerfully reinforced area of her life development. Mia Farrow has a peregrine Sun ruling her creative role in the 5th house of care-giving for youngsters; her life is totally consumed with issues with, about, for children. David Copperfield has a peregrine Sun square to his Midheaven of career.

A man I know, a retired police captain, is encyclopedic with specialized fact recall, e.g., the detailed profiles of Russian military officers in WWII! But similarly with so many other areas of knowledge, his Mercury is peregrine! And recall Howard Cosell, the fabulous statistics-and-memories-engorged sportscaster! Same thing!

We can feel the focus of a peregrine planet throughout a horoscope, especially founded upon the base orientation within the House(s) it rules.

Famed rock guitarist Jimmy Hendrix had Mars (action/momentum, anger management) peregrine ruling his 4th of home and foundation: his parents were divorced when he was 9, his mother died when he was 16, and, to spare him any further instability in the home, he was sent to live with his “inspirational” grandmother. These 4th house concerns were very powerful within his development. In another example, sex-focused rebel-broadcaster Howard Stern has Jupiter (believe in Higher Source/Power; optimistic energy) peregrine in Gemini (communications and salesmanship; cleverness) ruling the 8th of sex and other peoples’ values! Musician, composer, singer, and television host Merv Griffin had Neptune peregrine ruling his career 10th. And so did Saddam Hussein, as far as we know! The country of China has taskmaster and Father Time Saturn peregrine ruling its 12th of self-undoing and fears!

Hugh Hefner has Mars peregrine in Aquarius (rebel with a cause) and also Venus (enjoyment and pleasure principles) peregrine in Pisces (the need for beauty). Queen Elizabeth II has Sun, Moon, and Mercury (mental activities and capacities) all peregrine! --The Sun and Moon rule her public 7th, appropriately, and her Mercury rules her 5th and 8th: surely a monarch’s critical focus upon succession, progeny, etc.

I have learned to take this concept of peregrinating emphasis a bit further: I have found that two planets that aspect each other (usually the conjunction) but make no other Ptolemeic aspect with any other planet within the horoscope operate as a peregrine island! The focused pair is notably pervasive. Feminist spokesperson sexual-rights rebel Gloria Steinem has Mercury-Neptune together as a peregrine island, with Mercury ruling the 8th of sexuality and others’ values and Neptune ruling her 5th of creativity! Famed baseball player/convicted gambler Pete Rose has a peregrine island involving his Sun-Venus conjunction: the Sun rules the 5th of creativity, Venus rules the 2nd of values and 7th of relationships/partnerships!

Hiroki Niizato

Unaspected Planets in Your Birth Chart: Gifts and Challenges
Hiroki Niizato Updated: June 4, 2015

unaspected planets astrology

Unaspected planets in your birth chart are like wild, untamed animals within your psyche. They can “run away with your horoscope,” becoming a defining trait within your personality whether you approve or not.
Unaspected Planets: Definition

Unaspected planets, referred to as peregrine planets by Noel Tyl, are those planets in your natal chart that lack any Ptolemaic aspect (i.e. conjunction, sextile, square, trine or opposition) with any other planet.
Guidelines for Interpreting Unaspected Planets

Unaspected planets do not connect with the rest of the psyche – much like someone in a foreign land, it is disconnected from the surroundings, and integration becomes challenging.
This can be mirrored as a feeling of disconnection in outer relationships, especially if a key body such as Sun or Moon is unaspected. With unaspected Sun or Moon, there may be a feeling that the world doesn’t quite understand you. You may “march to a different drummer.”
Unaspected planets can function either as strong talents or excessive, overcompensatory habits: For example unaspected Mercury could suggest someone whose emphasis on thoughts or speech is pronounced, like the writer Norman Vincent Peale, who wrote “The Power of Positive Thinking.” However, it could also suggest someone that talks incessantly out of nervous habit.
Unaspected planets may be interpreted as strong and dominant, or excessive and vulnerable to isolation. Consider these multiple potentials when you interpret the unaspected planets within your own birthchart.

Unaspected Planets: Possible Meanings and Keywords

Here are some keywords you may want to consider when exploring the interpretation of unaspected planets in a horoscope.
Unaspected Sun: Intensified Ego Drive

A person with unaspected Sun tends to march to a different drumbeat. There can be strong emphasis on self expression and leadership, as well as a strong need for ego recognition.
Unaspected Moon: Possible Emotional Disconnection

Natal Moon with no major aspects tends to magnify the needs represented by Moon’s sign. A good example is Steve Jobs, who had unaspected Moon in Aries (“the need to be Number One”). Unaspected Moon possibly suggests emotional disconnection from the parents, and later from other people. There may also be a need to express a caring, nurturing or educational behavior in order to connect with the world.
Unaspected Mercury: Hyperactive Mind

Unaspected Mercury tends to emphasize an overactive mind, which could result in nonstop talking, thinking, or worrying. If the wild mental energy can be harnessed toward a productive direction, unaspected Mercury can become a strong asset providing you with impressive mental faculty and communication skills.
Unaspected Venus: Intensified Emotions and Social Needs

Unaspected Venus magnifies the emotional and social needs represented by your Venus’ sign.

For example, unaspected Venus in water signs (Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces) emphasizes emotional expression in relationships – either as emotional drama, or an ability to care deeply for others.

In contrast, unaspected Venus in earth signs (Capricorn, Taurus or Virgo) may emphasize the material aspect of Venus, perhaps generating more interest in becoming financially successful or secure.

In general there may be an emphasis on being attractive, flirtatious, charming or understanding in order to be liked and appreciated (the archetypal expressions of Venus).
Unaspected Mars: Untamed Energy

Unaspected Mars is like a wild horse – powerful and potentially dangerous. You may need a special focus for directing your energy, especially your anger. With the right outlet for your energy, the fire of motivation will keep you going for a long time.
Unaspected Jupiter: Dominant Higher Mind

Unaspected Jupiter suggests emphasis on philosophy, education and international or spiritual dimension. This tends to suggest a mind hungry for higher learning.
Unaspected Saturn: Disconnected Father, Intensified Ambition

Unaspected Saturn possibly suggests a lack of support from the father figure. Emphasis on work accomplishment or self-discipline may compensate for initial insecurity. Unaspected Saturn can also suggest intensified ambition, especially in terms of Saturn’s sign and house placement.
Unaspected Uranus: Heightened Individuality and Progress

Unaspected Uranus suggests intensified individuality, an eye for progress, and the need for achieving social significance. Inventor Thomas Edison’s horoscope has unaspected Uranus (using a tighter, 4 degree orb for sextile), Uranus being the planet of invention and scientific progress.
Unaspected Neptune: Vision and Ideals

Though somewhat rare, unaspected Neptune may manifest as heightened aesthetic sensitivity and strong ideals.
Unaspected Pluto: Power and Influence

Unaspected Pluto can suggest prominence, power and influence. John F. Kennedy’s horoscope has unaspected Pluto.
Summary: Integrating Unaspected Planets

Unaspected planets can be hard to tame. Integrating the unaspected planet into our psyche may feel like trying to have a tall Westerner blend in with a crowd of Japanese people – it can’t help but stand out.

Rather than trying to make unaspected planet conform to a social norm, you may want to find a challenging outlet for its energy – be it writing a book, learning a foreign language, forming a nonprofit organization, or practicing martial arts. With positive direction, unaspected planets can become your strongest asset.

http://www.hniizato.com/unaspected-planets/

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posted October 18, 2015 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Peregrine" in a classical/ medieval astrological sense means a planet without dignities (like rulership, exaltation, triplicity, face or term) or debilitation (fall or detriment), actually my Moon is peregrine in that sense, too.

Noel Tyl "redefined" the term (and we could argue about that a few hours) and called planets "peregrine", which are unaspected, in the sense they do not have a major ptolemaic aspect within a certain orb (I think he uses a 6 or 7 degree orb, and less for the sextile).

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posted October 18, 2015 08:41 PM            

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Is my Moon 29Gemini51 separating from a Jupiter 28Sag57 opposition considered peregrine? Ceri, what is your personal experience of peregrine Moon? My Moon does qualify as Void-of-Course (using Lilly's criteria). Next aspect is square to Mercury 10Aries06.

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posted October 18, 2015 08:53 PM            

Sun/Moon peregrine: when the Sun {the soul’s core identity of ego) or Moon (emotional sensor; reflexive responses when challenged by social encounters; how the soul was nurtured or not by a mother-figure) is peregrine, we have a core development issue focus: I like to say that the individual learns very soon in life that he or she is basically untethered; i.e, not necessarily “wild,” but not assimilated with others: the world does not quite understand them, and they do not quite understand the world. Usually this leads to a state of idiosyncrasy. Even a dissociated complex about individuality fitting into the scheme of things is possible. I observe that someone with the Sun or Moon (or both) peregrine dances to a different drummer!

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Your moon isn't peregrine if it makes an opposition to Jupiter with a tight orb like that, I don't think. It might feel particularly special and outlandish with an aspect like that being the only one in the chart though

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posted October 19, 2015 12:49 AM            

Yes, I also feel strange not being in a physical relationship; it's forced me to become comfortable within my own heart. I connect it with my ARIES 9H--LIBRA 3H opposition. For me it's about healthy balance between my inner self and outer relationship to others. My peregrine (by sign) Gemini Venus 10H is powerfully aspected, part of a Cradle formation with Mercury, Neptune, Pluto.

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Yes I resonate with that quote as well, with the peregrine Sun natally... It's normal to not feel normal among others for me at this point though so I almost don't notice or think about it... Especially since the relating principle, Venus, is peregrine too... in Libra... in the 12th... sigh. I was journaling about it today. It is SO important to me to feel loved and appreciated, and I try to disown that aspect of myself but I'm realizing perhaps it's a strength. When people activate my Venus I become aware of it--like Auby whose Sun conjuncts it--when I'm able to fully express my appreciation and feel appreciated by an aspect like that, I feel so good and validated and my whole day starts to feel shiny and new. It's sad but beautiful lol... vulnerable, peregrine planets are, I think--strong and vulnerable at once.

There are other aspects which can have us feeling like black sheep/strangers in a familiar place. Not just peregrine planets... perhaps it's a theme throughout your chart if you identify strongly with this description. Or maybe it totally is the VOC moon.. makes sense. It's parted ways with Jupiter and is on its way into no-moon's-land...

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posted October 19, 2015 01:43 AM            

First aspect to it is MERCURY -- but it's a 6º sextile. I dunno about you guys, but I like to keep my sextiles to 3º -- maybe 4º maximum -- if there's really good reason to expand beyond 3º. As that's widening the orb to twice what I usually consider .... I'm honestly not sure. I could be wrong.

posted October 19, 2015 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What I mean is we would probably have to agree on a certain orb to figure out if it is really a peregrine planet.

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