posted October 17, 2015 06:28 PM            

My current closest friend has Moon in libra at 9d and that is the antiscion of Pisces at 21d and I have moon in pisces at 21d; so it would be similar to a moon conjunct moon in how it feels perhaps?. My husband has Sun in libra @8d so his SUN antiscion my Moon.

Mr.Scorpio's Jupiter is in Libra @3d50 with a contra-antiscion in Virgo @27d10 which conjuncts my SUN by 1d so does contraantiscion feels like an opposition?.

His jupiter conjuncts my SUN in Virgo @28d but the contra-antiscion of his jupiter aspects more closely my sun, so does that mean that the antiscion would be more impacting for us?

How do you feel about these axises and how impacting they are or how they feel or play out? Would you put it in the category of true lilith axis, northnode, vertex or the angles??

posted October 17, 2015 07:35 PM            

The one that's 'hung on' the longest is still my boyfriend's MARS contrascion my VENUS. I'm learning there's very little difference between antiscia and contrascia (contra-antiscia). In both cases, the mathematical 'mirrored' relationship is created.

Of course, they're also contraparallel in our case, so it may intensify.

Otherwise, his MOON is also the antiscion of my VENUS.

Kinda hilarious that my husband's SUN is also antiscion my boyfriend's SUN, no?

posted October 18, 2015 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Kinda hilarious that my husband's SUN is also antiscion my boyfriend's SUN, no?

Great chart.

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posted October 18, 2015 03:10 AM            

And just on the subject of coincidences between romantic partners/soul connections(a thread waiting to happen I think), I've been pondering how my recent ex and babydaddy-ex BOTH have their Saturns in their 12th a few degrees from their ascendants.... What is UP with that?! ... I guess I kinda know what's up with that... but still, SO intense. The babydaddy Saturn squares my nodes and the recent guy's Saturn conjunct MY ascendant as well. Yeesh. I guess I like it tough.

posted October 18, 2015 05:32 AM            

In fact it depends on which axis you pick to "reflect/ mirror" the planets.
Usually the 0 Cancer-Capricorn is used and that gives us the antiscia.

If we reflect across 0 Aries-Libra, we are being given the contrascia. Possibly there is a qualitative difference (I mean in terms of how to interprete) between those, relating to what mirror axis we use, but for now I treat them just like an axis.

I once had a thread on this, and my opinion on them has not really changed since then.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018644.html

It is a reflexion point, so, while it does indeed has been likened to a conjunction, it is not quite as obvious. It`s more subtle, maybe coming from a more subconscious (surprising) place.
I mean after all what do Capricorn and Sagittarius really have in common (neither element nor modality, as it would be in a conjunction) - yet they "behold" each other on certain degrees. The connection is maybe even a little mysterious as it does not seem to make any sense from a more rational perspective.

But what still intrigues me about the antiscia/ contrascia is how the paired signs are containing all elements and such give such a picture of completeness

Aries - Libra = Virgo - Pisces
Sagittarius - Gemini= Capricorn - Cancer
Leo - Aquarius = Taurus - Scorpio

as you can see cardinal-mutable create pairings, and the fixed signs like to stay among themselves.

You know that you can get your antiscia table on astro.com, right?

If you pick "Studer" or "Munich Rythm" under "drawing style", the antiscia will be listed on the additional data pages (if you pick "Studer" this gives you a midpoint-list, also. rather handy).

EDIT
Since it really is "degree-mirroring", I would keep the orb to 1°-1°30 max.

posted October 18, 2015 05:50 AM            

Natally however in terms of my own antiscia I find:

posted October 18, 2015 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Mr.Scorpio's Jupiter is in Libra @3d50 with a contra-antiscion in Virgo @27d10 ...

How do you feel about these axises and how impacting they are or how they feel or play out? Would you put it in the category of true lilith axis, northnode, vertex or the angles??

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You're going over 30 with the degrees and minutes. Can't have that. 27+3= 30 already, so as ever when I get to these things or tables or ppl just going "15= 15" it's no no no. An example of 15 degrees 50'45" Scorpio = 14 degrees 9'15" or something as a closer approximate? I'm really REALLY tired right now so may be doing the math entirely wrong, but even so having to squeeze in the minutes on top of the degrees as well shouldn't be dropped because of my failing to phrase things right.

It's 29 minus the degree for the closer thing if including the minutes. Only 30 degrees to a sign, 29.59'59" the last possible before the next one again?

3 Libra 50' goes toward 26 Pisces 9' and then some, although the minutes I do tend to round up, so ~26.10' Pisces for the antiscia, contrascia then the opposite as you have. It's almost 4 degrees Libra and as said, only 30 to a sign of them.

Antiscia are vital as far as I'm concerned. True Liliths and such are less important to me, as they're not about the structural "matches" in the charts, instead of just one spot or thing to look at. Antiscia connect everything. I also wouldn't call them axes, since they're not on any straight line or anything.

posted October 18, 2015 01:53 PM            

Also the True Lilith-True Priapus axis is VERY powerful btw, Priapus is the perigee of the moon after all but I find its powerful when someone else's true litith-true priapus axis aspects your own.

posted October 18, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

It is a reflexion point, so, while it does indeed has been likened to a conjunction, it is not quite as obvious. It`s more subtle, maybe coming from a more subconscious (surprising) place.
I mean after all what do Capricorn and Sagittarius really have in common (neither element nor modality, as it would be in a conjunction) - yet they "behold" each other on certain degrees. The connection is maybe even a little mysterious as it does not seem to make any sense from a more rational perspective.

But what still intrigues me about the antiscia/ contrascia is how the paired signs are containing all elements and such give such a picture of completeness

Aries - Libra = Virgo - Pisces
Sagittarius - Gemini= Capricorn - Cancer
Leo - Aquarius = Taurus - Scorpio

as you can see cardinal-mutable create pairings, and the fixed signs like to stay among themselves.

You know that you can get your antiscia table on astro.com, right?

If you pick "Studer" or "Munich Rythm" under "drawing style", the antiscia will be listed on the additional data pages (if you pick "Studer" this gives you a midpoint-list, also. rather handy).

EDIT
Since it really is "degree-mirroring", I would keep the orb to 1°-1°30 max.

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Thanks for feedback and astro.com tip! It makes sense that the fixed like to stay among themselves LOL. Its interesting bc as a mutable I tend to click well with cardinals, even the guys I have loved who are fixed have cardinal moon or venus in them and my husband has cardinal Sun and Moon. I do have sun conjunct MC so maybe that is why too..

Looking at my chart on astro.com

My Antiscia Sun is in Libra @1d52 which conjuncts my husband's Saturn in Libra @1d11 and my mom's Saturn too but I also have sun conjunct saturn with both anyways in synastry.

My Antiscia Moon is in Aries @8d19 which opposes my Husband's SUN in Libra @8d0 and my friend's moon in Libra @9d06 so any attraction to Libras I have from 7d19 to 9d19 would be explained by my antiscia moon.

My husband's Antiscia Moon conjuncts my AC exact @23d sag, his Antiscia Saturn conjuncts my SUN as mentioned earlier.

With Mr.Scorpio his antiscia venus-pluto-juno conjuncts my natural priapus. His Antiscia Mercury conjuncts my VENUS-MARS.

So with my husband the big 3 are activated His Sun-My Moon, His moon-My AC.

posted October 20, 2015 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Also the True Lilith-True Priapus axis is VERY powerful btw, Priapus is the perigee of the moon after all but I find its powerful when someone else's true litith-true priapus axis aspects your own.

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You get antiscia of anything, so there are more of them at play or potentiallly out there was the point. Not one thing only in a chart.