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Aubyanne
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posted October 19, 2015 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Septile Series has been shrouded in mystery for decades, with the most popular of these minor aspects being the septile itself -- 51º. Few realise how it goes beyond the 51º angle, to form an entire series; one which some astrologers (such as Michael R Meyer) claim is actually a 7th harmonic story in and of itself, unfolding across the 360º wheel -- a story of fate, destiny, and extraordinary ability.

Robert Wilkinson has called them 'forks in the road of destiny'; that which can feel otherworldly, unbelievable -- even inexplicable. Alice Portman has attributed an 'infinite' quality to them, in 'search of wisdom'. She also identified how, beginning at 0º Aries, the septile series forms a seven-point star, involving the following degrees:

00º Aries
21º Taurus
12º Cancer
04º Virgo
25º Libra
17º Sagittarius
08º Aquarius

She also says that even without the actual septile pattern, the degrees alone (maximum 1º orb) carry the 'septile energy'.

The aspects themselves show an interest in, and ability to comprehend realities other than the normal established status quo. If involving the outer planets, she feels this is indicative of a person quite different from the average bear, with a tendency to eccentricity as well as an extraordinary quality. They can also confer a shyness, introverted, and deeply intuitive nature. She is also a major proponent of the septile series being a sort of 'psychic signature'.

Lynn, of the Universal Astrologer has noted how septiles work 'in their time'; there's a studious, thoughtful, deep quality to them. One can't expect to 'rush' the energy of the septile series. This can create a feeling of being 'out of step', marching to the very individual beat of its own drum. The trick then, would be to learn that special rhythm.

In the natal, 'those with prominent septiles often underestimate their talents and potentials ... often sweet and charming with very human qualities. Their brilliant and practical ideas attract people like magnets, some are good storytellers and speakers, others may travel to foreign lands, become diplomats, or gain recognition in their field ... can be seen in the charts of the peacemaker, the arbitrators or the spiritual masters.'

So, what can we learn from these mysterious minor aspects? Is their influence so minor, though? Is it coincidental that they're often find in our most surreal soul connexions and powerful karmic, intuitive, creative relationships?

First, what are the angles of the septile series?

SEPTILE - 51º
Impetus for new understanding; improvement.

BISEPTILE - 103º
empathy; problem-solving, oracular.

TRISEPTILE - 154º
expression of potential; everything laid bare.

QUADSEPTILE - 206º
shock, discord, shattered expectations; change in tradition or convention; breaking from the past; testing of inner strength; surviving the catastrophe.

QUINSEPTILE - 257º
great strength; great power available; great healing; rebalancing; reenergising.

SENSEPTILE - 309º
universal consciousness; sharing experiences; spokesperson, leadership, great perception applied to human needs.


Cited sources:

The Universal Astrologer
Robert Wilkinson
Alice Portman

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posted October 19, 2015 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Auby for starting this thread!

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posted October 19, 2015 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The septiles give us the ability to know what is the right move at any given time. We have an instinct for truth where the two planets are concerned, and have a hard time telling ourselves anything that isn’t absolutely honest. In this way, septiles can be a bit ruthless. Septiles are where we know better, and we can’t turn away. Sometimes, it seems that septiles can manifest as a ‘get out of jail free card’—but this only happens when we are jailed unjustly by other elements.

Septiles between charts behave somewhat like high-powered lamps pointed at the planets. Those two planets will relate in a truthful way, and we won’t be able to hide from one another.

http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/03/27/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/

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posted October 19, 2015 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbs can count up to 1d30: http://www.myastrologybook.com/orbs-of-aspects-in-astrology.htm

Some astrologers go as wide at 3 degree orb.

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posted October 19, 2015 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Orbs can count up to 1d30: http://www.myastrologybook.com/orbs-of-aspects-in-astrology.htm

Right; sorry, H; I meant that it can be technically 21°-22° Taurus, rather than just 21°.

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thank you.

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posted October 20, 2015 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Osiris septile series.

1. Osiris in Taurus at 12d44
2. Isis in Cancer at 4d35 (exact at 4d10)
3. Ambrosia in Leo at 26d00 conjunct partner's venus in leo at 25d31 (exact at 26d17)
4. Exe's Juno in Libra at 17d15 conjunct his Alma at 20d47 (exact at 18d24)
5. Lie in Sag at 9d25, ANTARES in sag at 9d47 (exact at 10d31)
6. Lucifer in aquarius at 2d07 (exact at 2d34)
7. Abundantia in Pisces at 26d19 (exact at 24d)

Transit Juno in Cancer at 17 degrees activated his natal Juno in Libra the day we met which activates my osiris septile series. Tr northnode conjuncted exact my Isis also activating my Osiris septile series. Tr Osiris conjuncted exact my Neptune on the Galactic Center.

The septile series are found by dividing 360 degrees by 7 so the septile aspect = 51 degrees 25 minutes 43 seconds. Multiples of this give bi-septile = 102° 51’26”; tri-septile = 154° 17’ 08”; quad-septile = 205° 42’ 51”; quin-septile = 257°08’34”; sen-septile 308° 34’17”. This makes up a seven point star.

Pluto septile sag 20d37 (SN, ex vertex, ex IC, ex neptune 7H ruler, husband's neptune)

Pluto biseptile aquarius at 12d2
Pluto triseptile aries 4d03
Pluto quadseptiles taurus 26d27
Pluto quinseptile cancer 18d1
Pluto senseptile virgo 10d34

Pluto Septiles my SN
Saturn Septiles my Sun/Moon Midpoint
Jupiter conjunct Uranus Septiles my Agapenor and my Mother's Sun
Neptune at GC Septile Husband's SN
Moon Septile Osiris which Septiles Isis
NN triseptile Psyche
Chiron septile ex Nessus and husband's Nessus
Sun Septile Selene
Mars Septile in libra at 16d27
Venus Septile in libra at 15d34

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posted October 20, 2015 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Requiem


Affirmation - I Bless All That Has Left My Life & All That Still Needs To Be Released


The Requiem is a prayer said for salvation of Souls who have crossed over. The asteroid Requiem can indicate what areas of life you may feel need to die for you or where you have felt that life has let you down through the passing of things you thought you wanted/needed in your life. This asteroid also appears to have a very strong spiritual energy connected to it that goes far beyond the structure of a religion and puts one square into what the truth of Spirituality really is for you. The essence helps you to connect with your own personal Spirituality as well as allowing you to release unto The Universe that which you need to let go of.

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posted October 20, 2015 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it means when the Ascendents are exactly septile in synastry?

Also interested in knowing Neptune exactly conjuncts Requiem in natal.

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posted October 20, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!

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posted October 20, 2015 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune29:
What does it means when the Ascendents are exactly septile in synastry?

Also interested in knowing Neptune exactly conjuncts Requiem in natal.


Probably a psychic connexion.

REQUIEM is an interesting one. It can be a few things; in an established karma where one or both were lost through death, it can build upon that pattern. It can also be a kind of 'ceasefire'.

My boyfriend has a tight stellium of REQUIEM-ANTEROS-MELETE with his VALENTINE-MADHATTER. Quite telling, that one.

We have them contraparallel. Mine is, actually, on the GC. 7º from my NEPTUNE. I'd have to say that REQUIEM conjunct an outer planet, without an inner, or connected to a pattern is probably not going to be all that influential -- unless it hits something dead-on in synastry. Then, perhaps -- but only if that's an established pattern in the other natal.

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posted October 20, 2015 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Requiem

Affirmation - I Bless All That Has Left My Life & All That Still Needs To Be Released

The Requiem is a prayer said for salvation of Souls who have crossed over. The asteroid Requiem can indicate what areas of life you may feel need to die for you or where you have felt that life has let you down through the passing of things you thought you wanted/needed in your life. This asteroid also appears to have a very strong spiritual energy connected to it that goes far beyond the structure of a religion and puts one square into what the truth of Spirituality really is for you. The essence helps you to connect with your own personal Spirituality as well as allowing you to release unto The Universe that which you need to let go of.


I'm not sure if I really agree with all of that -- namely the part regarding disappointment, releasing, and what 'needs to die for you'. Rather, I agree with MLW's research.

'As well as a connection to the ceremonies of death (and the formalization of grief,) Requiem stands for a place of acceptance, a cessation of struggle. Whether one should be AT PEACE with the people, actions and events shown by aspecting points is the issue!'

Granted, it makes MUCH more sense to me in this regard, but the former delineation also seems a bit ... fatalistic? Here, at least, we can see it as 'acceptance' or, as I'd mentioned prior, a kind of 'ceasefire'. A truce.

Honestly, in that respect, I find it much more useful, and applicable.

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posted October 20, 2015 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not sure if I really agree with all of that -- namely the part regarding disappointment, releasing, and what 'needs to die for you'. Rather, I agree with MLW's research.

'As well as a connection to the ceremonies of death (and the formalization of grief,) Requiem stands for a place of acceptance, a cessation of struggle. Whether one should be AT PEACE with the people, actions and events shown by aspecting points is the issue!'

Granted, it makes MUCH more sense to me in this regard, but the former delineation also seems a bit ... fatalistic? Here, at least, we can see it as 'acceptance' or, as I'd mentioned prior, a kind of 'ceasefire'. A truce.

Honestly, in that respect, I find it much more useful, and applicable.


I don't feel you are disagreeing with my post but just re-wording what I said. What I posted about Requiem is all about acceptance, that is basically the theme.

Affirmation - I Bless All That Has Left My Life & All That Still Needs To Be Released

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posted October 20, 2015 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Requiem is in my 7th house... isn't that fitting!

Speaking of sevens... I can't do math enough to figure out the septile series.. It seems from this description that they increase in intensity somewhat as they get into the bi- tri- quadra- etceteras? My lil astro app only shows me the big S, not the bS or the qSes.

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Requiem is in my 7th house... isn't that fitting!

Speaking of sevens... I can't do math enough to figure out the septile series.. It seems from this description that they increase in intensity somewhat as they get into the bi- tri- quadra- etceteras? My lil astro app only shows me the big S, not the bS or the qSes.


When you are up for doing math you will be able to do it, I know it.

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posted October 21, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I don't feel you are disagreeing with my post but just re-wording what I said. What I posted about Requiem is all about acceptance, that is basically the theme.

Not really. I really don't think that things that are connected to REQUIEM need to 'leave one's life'. I feel, instead, that they may have achieved a sort of peace about them, or an acceptance. Not that they must be released, or are disappointing.

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posted October 21, 2015 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Not really. I really don't think that things that are connected to REQUIEM need to 'leave one's life'. I feel, instead, that they may have achieved a sort of peace about them, or an acceptance. Not that they must be released, or are disappointing.

Acceptance requires you to let go of something and that is what the author means but what that something is can take many shapes.

I think what you are describing is one manifestation of Requium and I like it too and can relate to your take on it as well.

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posted October 21, 2015 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terrific thread Aubyanne!

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posted October 21, 2015 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
When you are up for doing math you will be able to do it, I know it.

You are right if I want to badly enough I can probably figure it out. Was kinda hoping someone would show me a shortcut

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posted October 21, 2015 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
You are right if I want to badly enough I can probably figure it out. Was kinda hoping someone would show me a shortcut

I completely feel you on that, if you come across one do share .

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posted November 11, 2015 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually my MOON quad-septiles my ARTHUR and it does NOT quad-septiles my ex venus, too wide. How fitting to have ARTHUR quadseptile my MOON giving me the courage and strength to survive the catastrophe that comes with the quadseptile.

Quadseptile is at 205d42 and my moon to his Venus is 207d13 away so the quadseptile would be too wide, close to 1.5 orb but my Arthur and Ophelia do conjunct his VENUS tightly and his Venus inconjuncts exact my Moon by .01d and sextiles my venus forming a YOD so that Love Yod was part inevitably of the 'catastrophe.'

QUADSEPTILE - 206º
shock, discord, shattered expectations; change in tradition or convention; breaking from the past; testing of inner strength; surviving the catastrophe.

'shattered expectations'
'breaking from the past'
'testing of inner strength'
'surviving the catastrophe'

^so right on, describes so well the hard lessons falling for him and then losing him brought to my life.

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posted November 11, 2015 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow My OPHELIA conjuncts his VENUS and his OPHELIA conjuncts my MOON. I always knew the heart break from the break up was very bad for him too, equally painful...

LOVE/Heart Break YOD:

My Moon in Pisces @21d41
His Ophelia in Pisces @23d02 in the 7th
His DC in Pisces @20d00

His Venus in Libra @21d40
My Venusia in Libra @21d06
My Ophelia in Libra @22d17
My Arthur in Libra @20d03

My Venus in Leo @23d52

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