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caligal2015
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posted October 22, 2015 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grrrr, I got another point of view on an already troubled friendship. According to the synastry chart I did, it's gonna be real tough to overcome things.

Do you agree with the poor prognosis? Anyway to overcome these things?
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af190/caligal15/syn2_zpsejea5zd1.jpg


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Randall
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posted October 23, 2015 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see some good signs in there which could definitely serve to keep a friendly connection healthy through tough spots, but it's so hard to read that chart... could you please use astro.com to post it?

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's always a point in trying to forge loving friendships if you feel inspired to. Don't expect anything, just be love... see the best in others and believe in yourself... know you're part of the same whole and honour your differences, celebrate the opportunities for joy and sharing which do exist and forgive all you can; life and relationships are precious gifts and come in many forms, all from a heart of love constantly unfolding... that'd be my baseline sunny-side up recommendation without advising on specific aspects...

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LaceyLeigh
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posted October 23, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought you were a Libra? Or, is this a synastry chart with someone else?

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the Uranus-Moon-AC/Sun/Pallas grand trine--i think there should be enough freedom and respect for self-expression in this friendship to allow for some differences... Sun conjunct Moon is lovely, complementary, giving an immediate understanding and support for both people on some deep basic levels which should not be taken for granted--and Ascendants conjunct bodes excellent for a deeply understanding relationship... You'll be experiencing stresses and joys similarly due to transits, which can be positive or difficult depending on how you each handle things..

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The person with the Mars-Saturn conjunction square their moon natally is going to need to handle the energy activated by this relationship maturely because the other person's Mars there is likely going to highlight the existing natal stresses... if we can recognize that these are learning opportunities for self understanding and engage our patience and forbearance, then beautiful things can happen.

I wish i could read the chart more clearly so i could give a more fluent reading, it's all kinda disjointed in my mind because i have such difficulty making out what's going on here :/

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Sun in trine is so nice, with Neptune and is Saturnat the apex of the kite..? There's totally stuff to be positive about, who told you this was hopeless and what were they basing it on?

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caligal2015
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posted October 23, 2015 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a libra. I think I did it right.

I got one of those automated responses and you're supposed to have a positive score and we had -30.

I think my libra overthinking did this friendship in and I was looking at it only from my side which isn't typical of me, then again, this entire friendship has been different for me.

How should I try and get an aries female back into the friendship? I've never had an aries for a friend before.

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No--it's Pluto--or Uranus there! Well, there's some sort of transformative urge here and a potent opportunityv for some kinda learning ... somebody help me out here lol...

All in all... i really can't forecast what's likely to be going on with this amount of info.. though I've taken a crack at it--if another astrologer advised you to give up, were they basing it off your experiences thus far? You seem really frustrated--wonder what you're looking for? Good night for now, thanks for the experience of looking at your chart (s)

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caligal2015
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posted October 23, 2015 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon-Saturn in opposition on top of the Sun-Uranus opposition could be a really difficult thing...

they're the same by sign and house-but Uranus in Libra and Saturn in Libra are two very different fish and the liklihood of seeing eye to eye in terms of satisfaction and achievement within the relationship is somewhat lessened by this particular combination. One person is seeking stability in a way which may cause the other person to buck against that way of seeking, and due to the nature of the Sun-Uranus person's desire for radical change as well as self assertion in the c face of b that change in relationship the Moon-Saturn person could react with a similar need for self assertion which requires stability and fairness and perceives Uranus as upsetting what they're trying to accomplish in terms of stability within the relationship. Different upbringing, different comfort zones and needs witch clash in a very direct way which could indeed be frustrating.

I think resolving that tension could be really satisfying and unlock the very positive potentials of the very aspects i just mentioned... those oppositions are a feistybunch and with such heavyweights involved in a Sun Moon opposition we can expect some volatility and a difference in terms of what constitutes security/freedom/true fulfillment of the different needs and natures of the two which if worked on could create a very dynamic balance and a new way of structuring things which could be satisfying on many levels.

Etcetera?

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 23, 2015 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Augh that's not even Saturn--that's Pluto.

Completely different. Lol new policy, no more trying to look at those bubble font charts

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caligal2015
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posted October 23, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://s1006.photobucket.com/user/caligal15/media/B0E53CBD-9C96-4BEA-BF73-F0D8509F97B3.png_zps8vn4pktc.jpeg.html

I'll try another one. Thanks for helping, I really do appreciate it!

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caligal2015
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posted October 23, 2015 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LaceyLeigh
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posted October 24, 2015 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you upload a chart using astro.com? It's a lot easier to read. Use tinypic to embed the picture.

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 24, 2015 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first chart and the second are different people though eh?

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athenaia
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posted October 24, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Caligal, I'm a little curious as to why you're so invested in this friendship as per your post on 2.0? I mean, you say you had a girlcrush on her because you liked her personality so much you decided to strike up a friendship with her outside of the context of her work, and she rarely reciprocated the level of interest you did.

Oftentimes, the people we present as at work are not even an inkling into our true personalities. For a long time I was a receptionist at a gym and I would joke to my boyfriend that the person I became was my alter ego - someone I projected for the sake of agreeable and charming customer service. A total 180 from who I was in everyday life. This woman is not the woman you adored at her work. She's someone that put on her best face forward in order to make a living. I wouldn't take this personally as being an "unlovable friend" on your part, you know?

I've noticed that Libras take "friendship breakups" extremely hard, even if the friendship was mediocre at best. Truly the ~love of harmony~ at work, here.

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 24, 2015 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh... maybe you should set her up with your other friend though, dependent whose chart that was at first... that would be interesting to observe! Doh. Be careful to put the right people in future! Heehee... ♡

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caligal2015
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posted October 24, 2015 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Athenaia, oddly enough I don't usually invest myself in friendships too much.

I have certain issues with best friends from high school days.

I'm wondering if I didn't see her side like I thought I had. She has a husband, a kid, and he's heavily into sports. I also have a tendency to chuck relationships when they don't match what I want. Sometimes, when I don't get the attention I think I deserve, I throw an emotional temper tantrum.

So if a relationship isn't 100% to my liking, I orchestrate its end. Doesn't matter who it is. I just recently began noticing that I'm the common denominator in all of those dead relationships.

I singled her out and expected her to be something like from my high school days, when now at my age, I don't have friends like that. I wasn't even aware that I was holding her to that standard. It wasn't until I was told by a relative that I can be controlling and demanding, did I start to wonder what role I played. Maybe that's my Leo moon at work?

I started to look inward, rather than outward and saw things from a complete other point of view.

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caligal2015
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posted October 24, 2015 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caligal2015     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Heh... maybe you should set her up with your other friend though, dependent whose chart that was at first... that would be interesting to observe! Doh. Be careful to put the right people in future! Heehee... ♡

Hmmm, I thought I did that right. It gave me the option to add a bunch of other stuff like asteroids. Thought I did it right. Strange.

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