posted November 07, 2015 05:16 AM            

I don't want anyone to labour under any sort of delusion. I know. It's a tall order, as we've all got our favourite crutches. Sadly, all of this twin flame business has become a helluva crutch; to the point where it's not even really known or realised. Not by the individual marching beneath its banner.

I know, because I did. I regret the hell out of it.

Looking back, I was secretly screaming; I wanted to be found out. Exposed. I wanted for someone to pay enough attention to tell me that something wasn't right. I needed to be proved wrong. I needed someone to put me and everything I was saying under the microscope.

But no one ever did. Because everything I was saying matched everything they'd read or heard.

And it was all wrong.

I was unhappy, lost in fantasy, and tearing myself apart in trying to hang on to something that I should've been letting go. Alas, I had to do it alone. I had to develop better methods. More stringent controls. Higher standards. I had to get to the point where it became obvious to me that I was wrong. That we were all mistaken, and this wasn't what we'd thought it was. It was the statistical anomaly. The false positive.

I wasted so much time. I suffered so much heartache, and heartbreak. Even when I could see we'd never turn this fantasy into a reality, I couldn't let it go. It was preferable to live in a pretty faerie tale with no end in sight, no closure, and just enough 'evidence' to support it -- that I could keep on in perpetuity.

Someone should've said something. But why? It's not their job. After all, isn't it our 'job' to listen without judgement -- even if we think something isn't linking up to true reality? I need more. And, beyond that, I wanted more.

So, yes. I have an ulterior motive; a personal stake. I try and be for others what I needed, and never got. I take what I know of my own mission and do what I can to realise this for others. I do the best I can, even though my approach may be considered too forceful by some. For that, I am genuinely sorry. But I needed someone to be forceful with me, too. To knock me out of the fantasy I was losing myself within.

And now that you know, I hope my actions aren't quite as audacious or inexplicable to you. I do the best I'm able. And I very much appreciate your input and skill in a variety of areas, and hope we may continue to communicate.

posted November 08, 2015 04:37 PM            

I must admit, I am a bit hesitant to respond to this because I have a feeling you and I may not be capable of having a constructive conversation - Please don't misunderstand; I am not saying this derisively. I have noticed that you and I have vastly different perspectives and, unfortunately, I just feel (based on what I have observed) that we may not be able to bridge this gap. I am completely fine with this. You don't have to justify yourself to me and I don't feel the need to do the same. Live and let live

However, since you have gone to the trouble of contacting me, perhaps a short discussion is in order. Just to be clear, I don't have any bad feelings toward you and I certainly am not one to shy away from participating in a future discussion in an effort to avoid you or something along those lines. In disagreeing with you I am not looking to make an enemy of you and I will certainly never treat you as such - it's nothing personal.

That being said, I am not nor have I ever been ignorant of your motive Auby. You have been very open and prolific on this side of the forum and I have unintentionally become quite familiar with your story. My comments were not referring to your method of "tough love" (which is not a professional therapeutic approach I'm familiar with if I'm being honest) but rather your entire approach and the way you have been conducting your conversations.

In my perspective, hiding behind the guise of doing "good" for others by pushing your opinion on them does not mitigate the fact that you are attempting to reconcile your own personal psychological issues by forcing your needs on others. This is a backward and destructive approach in my eyes. I am sorry that you have experienced painful disappointment in your past, but the fact that you blame others for essentially "leading you astray" says to me that you are unwilling to take responsibility for your own involvement in that pain. Trust me I understand that can be hard.

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Someone should've said something. But why? It's not their job.

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It isn't anyone's job to tell us what our own values, beliefs, and personal truths are - it's our responsibility to take on the difficult task of thorough self-evaluation and figure that out for ourselves. The fact that we cannot search outside ourselves for this truth has nothing to do with judgement or others being unwilling to voice a difference of opinion. This is a large part of why I disagree with your notion that it is your mission to realize and dictate the mission of others.

The thing that is so seductive about the TFs mythology is that it gives people a sense of purpose. I get it - the larger issue here is not whether or not TFs exist; at some point you felt that you had this connection with someone and it didn't turn out the way you expected and it was painful. However, by excessively focusing on your issues in these discussions (often without any apparent purpose or intention to enrich the conversation) I don't see these conversations as constructive...or even a conversation. Rather, I see them more as a reflection of your desperate search for the meaning and validation that you feel you are owed by others because you are unwilling or unable to find it within yourself.

posted November 09, 2015 06:46 PM            

This is a two-pronged issue -- and I appreciate your patience as I try and disentangle it as best as I'm able.

First, I'll begin with my own accountability.

While it's true that I wanted a 'me' to demand a more critical analysis, that in and of itself says a lot. It seems that I may be uniquely qualified to undertake what I'm doing, as few have my experience, abilities, and skill set. So, privately regretting that there wasn't 'another me' to do this is just silly. In fact, my cautionary tale has only strengthened me. It's forced me to tighten my controls and demand more -- much more.

Unfortunately, that means I'm ... operating a 'higher level' (though that sounds different from what it actually is) than most individuals who are reporting a supposed twin flame experience. See, I was following along with the same blueprints THEY were. I'd followed just enough intuition to tell me to put more than a bit of faith in a certain individual (iQ) and we're both -- I think -- actually better for being wrong. And I can say that with full acknowledgement of the pain I went through. I did have a powerful sense then that validation was to come from outside of me. That was from a karmic wound of passing the buck; of many times being a pending leader who was too afraid to lead -- who didn't believe enough in themselves to do so. And I'd suffered handily for it in many ways, as a result.

So here I am, 'oversoul captain' -- again, for lack of better -- slowly but surely coming to the understanding that I am here as a representative of my own soul group -- and perhaps more than that. I've acquired many experiences that have proved extremely valuable to other members of our 'network' of sorts, just as my mother had, which led to her becoming a powerful shaman many years ago.

The 'tough love' has come from my practise, yes, and while it's not the norm, it's proven instrumental when aiding precontemplative addicts. So I have a special training that allows me to break through another's defences to get to the heart of the issue, even though they see nothing wrong. I'll admit, parlaying that into the growing 'twin flame issue' has been useful -- if someone's willing to see reason.

I don't like the terminology, but I'm NOT seeking validation, I assure you. I stepped up my game. I demanded more. I said, 'true twin flames are going to be multidimensional. Why the heck aren't these people experiencing any of that?' I kept asking, since when did we lower the bar so abysmally to where anyone who claims to 'feel for this person unlike they've ever felt for anyone before' to be a legitimate 'checkbox' for their twin flame?

Not to mention --

WHY IS EVERYBODY SUDDENLY OBSESSED WITH FINDING THEIR 'TWIN FLAME' ?

I STILL haven't figured that out yet. It's not as if we're going into these 'higher dimensional vibrations' as it were, ONLY with our twin flames, or that we MUST be with our twin flames. Unless the Graduate Theory proves to be the dominant one, nothing would explain why everyone is suddenly 'on their last life' (I'm not even sure it works that way) and hurrying up to pair bond with their 'one true love across time'.

Man. I have had A LOT of 'one true loves' across time. I almost had to begin meeting them in my early teens in order to find closure with the most significant ones because I couldn't fit them all in! Crazy! We're talking fully fledged soulmates here -- karma, fate, 'past life memories', karmic debts, telepathy, shared dreaming, experiences in 'other dimensions' -- whole shebang.

And as much as I dislike the terminology because of what it's become, the reason I'm not seeking external validation anymore is that my stringent controls cannot disprove the experiences I've had with my boyfriend. Not by a long shot. Conventional science has got nothin'. Even in the face of the rampant telepathy and sychronicities with my ex producing partner. No. There's something that has ALWAYS been so profoundly unique regarding my boyfriend that it is legitimately beyond comprehension. So, it's taken me AWHILE to process it. To come to accept it as ... real.

But now, as I'm oddly becoming 'the ol' veteran', one of my dear friends and soul-sisters is having her own ... 'experience'. And -- wow, it's a doozy. She came to me because she knew that ONLY I'd actually understand -- and not call her crazy -- because I've been there. Not that I'd ever call her crazy. On SVP Scale (developed by Jacques Vallee back in the '40s, in conjunction with Project Bluebook) I'd give her a credibility rating of 5. That's a high as you can get. She's prone to being very enthused about things, but she doesn't confabulate -- and never when it's about weird stuff.

I'm presently waiting to hear back on whether the reason he's been cryptically hinting to her about their 'familiarity' isn't due to the fact that he KNOWS about their 'transdimensional relationship'. In WHICH case, they'd be the first couple I've ever personally known, and been able to validate, that has transdimensional experiences prior to meeting of which BOTH are aware, in another dimension.

Fingers crossed. I'm hopeful, but, hey, I'm always hopeful.

And that's about where I'm at. Very ... no nonsense these days. I've seen WAY too much evidence of synchronicity across the board to consider it anything but a confounding variable that can only be included AFTER other domains have been exhausted.

I also can't help but give more credence to couples that are actually together. Triply so for those who are LIVING as twin flames. Have you noticed me knocking down their sandcastles? You wouldn't, because the 'commonsense test' is a big one with me. If two people are spiritual and dedicated to one another in an actual relationship, I'm much more likely to investigate their potentiality of being 'twin flames'.

Maybe it's harsh. But after a decade as a certified field investigator in the practise and domain of anomalous aerial phenomena, branching out when the organisation did, but only on a 'last-resort sceptic' basis -- your, uh, standards get raised. Not to mention the background I have in detecting pseudoscience (through the physics discipline, largely involving the scientific method, and experimental design methods).

People always get the biggest kick out of the fact that I've been an astrologer since I was 9. Sometimes I do, too. And I would find it inexplicable, except I figured it out when I was 19. I've been satisfied with that explanation since.

posted November 09, 2015 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, we can absolutely agree to disagree. No harm, no foul, no bad blood, nothing of that sort.

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posted November 09, 2015 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Ok great

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