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PrettyVirgo
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posted November 07, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any information on psyche conjunct venus in synastry? Cannot find this anywhere...

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posted November 07, 2015 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious about this as well.

It's very wide, but also tightly parallel.

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posted November 09, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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posted November 10, 2015 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with someone. My Sun is also conjunct his Psyche. We can feel each other sometimes even we met once only and are ten thousand miles away.

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posted November 24, 2015 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yungang_grotto
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posted November 24, 2015 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... mostly what we can do with these asteroids is describe our own experiences and hazard at guesses and follow well informed hunches, as slowly a body of evidence is amassed and somebody compiles all of the collective experiences of a given aspect, right? Of course, that's part of what makes a forum like this one so magical. Tis a sounding board.

So, what have your experiences been?

For me I can speak to the Sun Psyche conjunction, as most of the 83 babies have their Psyches conjunct my Sun... and I am presently powerfully affected by somebody's Jupiter-Uranus conjunct my Psyche (Jupiter exact and Uranus 2 degrees off or whatever).

From my personal experience, I think Psyche is the one receiving the majority of the energy, at least in a Sun-Psyche conjunction, not least because Psyche is a small, slow-moving body in the sky and it seems like it would be more prone to being acted upon by a huge planetary energy than vice versa. Does that make any sense? I think it does go both ways. The nature of this asteroid is yin, feminine, receptive, and integrating everything--yet questing, right? So the yang is activated here, she is certainly passionately seeking union and this is really noted by the person being aspected by somebody's Psyche, it's really appreciated that their quest for understanding and union and bliss in the world is a serious thing... the planet person will be affected in that planetary way... Venus will really love and appreciate, find beautiful the magnitude of the experience, the journey of Psyche. Jupiter/Uranus will just expand it and make it part of the experience of everything I guess... Sun will identify strongly with it, there will be some ego stroking with Sun conjunct Psyche, because as Sun you know that their inner world revolves around you...

Meanwhile Psyche is in deep and the nature of the planet or point making an aspect to Psyche is acting on that person in that way in regards to their experiential dealings with the world.

It is a very personal asteroid, dealing with the liminal realm where subjective and objective reality meet and merge. We integrate ourselves with the world in our psyche... and it is our inner relationship with the world, the cosmos. It is our inner self projected outward and the whole world as we understand it and integrate it into our mind and our experience.

This person with whom I've the Psyche conjunct Jupiter-Uranus, man do they turn me on!--Intellectually--but it's more than that... They get my creative juices flowing when I thought I didn't have it left in me to genius anymore! It's full-spectrum wonderful. Know what I'm saying?

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posted November 25, 2015 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think there's an aspect of wanting to prove oneself with Psyche. I really feel validated by interacting with this person, and the Psyche-Jupiter/Uranus would really speak to this somewhat urgent drive to express and consolidate all of my worldly experiences and pour them out to him. I feel greatly energized by doing so.

I think Psyche-Venus could therefore be an extremely romantic linkage which would be unlikely to fade with time; it's one of those things where there's always a lot of energy being joyfully given to the loving, sensual, aesthetic aspect of the union.

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posted November 25, 2015 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think Psyche conjunct Cupido can be similar to a Psyche Eros conjunction?

I have this aspects with someone I started to date in synastry.

I'll see where it goes before opening a synastry topic. And I don't wan't to hijack the thread LOL

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posted November 26, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not hijacking.. it's alright I think to ask a question like that... if we stayed militantly on topic half the organic revelations would never occur. Conversation is a great way to learn. I see the value in starting a topic about it though--dooo it! Meanwhile (and we can transfer this over), the answer I think is yes, they play out similarly, given Cupido's intrinsic association with Eros... I am pretty sure they're interchangeable in the Psyche myth?... although I think the general consensus is that while this is true Cupido perhaps doesn't run quite as deep as Eros. Just as Eros is referenced more frequently in this capacity and society's associations with Cupido are different. Think erotic vs baby in a diaper, right? Cupido is circumstantial affection aroused again and again by the moment as experienced with and by the beloved... it is like constantly having/reigniting a crush. That's not to say it's not as significant as Eros--just maybe--more light hearted...

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posted November 26, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And that leaves VALENTINE, actually -- which, arguably, goes deeper than EROS even. The 'Amor' asteroids are rather confusing, as they're all variations of the Cupid archetype.

Sometimes I wonder if we shouldn't treat them all as equally important, and just facets of the original concept or principle. In other words, PSYCHE in relationship to EROS, VALENTINE, CUPIDO, and AMOR are all relevant in different ways. It may very well be that we all jibe differently with each as well -- perhaps, depending upon PSYCHE's natal positioning.

I've had enough experiences with someone's EROS conjunct my PSYCHE to know that it's not the most coveted aspect -- for me. (I've also been EROS in this equation -- which is another story.)

But if PSYCHE is that for which we most long, might it not be revealed which expression of Cupid via the myth is most natural in the dynamics through which of the four points is most strongly and tightly aspecting it?

As an example, let's give Cupid four major domains of expression which we can categorise or define with each point. Just to keep it very clear, we'll oversimplify to an extent.

• He pricked himself with his own arrow, falling madly in love with Psyche, experiencing the throes of infatuation -- this could be attributed to his CUPIDO form.

• He was the erotic lover who rocked Psyche's world every night -- so that's probably, most securely, EROS.

• He was the unconditional, deeply romantic husband who remained devoted, despite the obstacles in their way -- that sounds like VALENTINE.

• He was the silent, invisible force in the background guiding her throughout her trials, ensuring her safety and success, though he was disallowed to do so -- this might be AMOR.

Taking the above into account, we might then be able to see how each is operating in synastry to PSYCHE. If there are strong aspects to one without the other, we can safely say that's the form which could be 'dominating' the Cupid archetype. If all four are, it's a balance. If there are two which are of equal orb width, and both Ptolemaic aspects, we could say they're operating together -- whether in harmony, or opposition.

I'll be back with some examples from my own synastries.

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posted November 26, 2015 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^

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posted November 26, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was bloody brilliant, Auby!

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posted November 26, 2015 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my recent relationship there was Psyche-Cupido stuff so I'm a little biased in favour of thinking it's maybe indicative of passions which could burn hot and then wane considerably if not consistently re-ignited... I have just heard a lot of hype about Psyche-Eros round these parts so I've been going on that, thinking well then, there must be something more to it!--as the Psyche-Cupido d-w wound up less than awesome for me.. although I remained interested and somewhat in love and attracted and just had to break up because I was simultaneously horrifically annoyed and feeling like I was in danger! Anyway... synthesis...

Interested to hear your experiences, Auby, as ever. Very instructive.

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posted November 27, 2015 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yun,

I could imagine Psyche-Cupido operate that way as you described in the beginning of the post. However that feeling of "being annoyed and in danger" (esp. the last part) doesn`t sound like Psyche-Cupido.
Maybe there was something else going on additionally?

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posted November 27, 2015 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auby,

now that I had a cursory glance, it just struck me how both, Dr Faustus and Lancelot have their Cupido in 12th house conjunct ASC (most likely in Lancelot`s case at least), while my D r a c o Cupido is in 1st house, widely conjunct ASC, but pretty closely conjunct Neptune-NN.
(0°12/ 0°26)


I find the Sabian pretty hilarious, too (same as of my Neptune and mean NN):

"A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity"

CUPIDO is widely opposing my PSYCHE, too wide really (4°08), but they are also contraparallel, so `d dare the hypothesis that maybe my Psyche is pretty concerned with Cupido.

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posted November 27, 2015 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yun,

I could imagine Psyche-Cupido operate that way as you described in the beginning of the post. However that feeling of "being annoyed and in danger" (esp. the last part) doesn`t sound like Psyche-Cupido.
Maybe there was something else going on additionally?


Ohhh yeah there was. So I'm just kinda thinking out loud here--like hmm maybe my dashed dreams of Psyche-Cupido aren't fully representative of the total experience! But also like, it all plays into one another. I'm so tired and must must sleep sooon... but yes, certainly.

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posted November 27, 2015 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you see this article? http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/LoveAsteroids.html

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 27, 2015 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I haven't seen it! A glance/skim tells me it's super interesting and there are some deep insights there. will return to it when I've time later today

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posted November 27, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we consider these asteroids as stages of the process, my process/ route would look like this


PSYCHE: 24 Aquarius / 2nd house
evolving into
Dr PSYCHE: 13 Gemini /7th (tropical) house


CUPIDO: 19 Leo / 8th house
evolving into
Dr CUPIDO: 9 Sag/ 1st house

EROS: 21 Cancer / 8th house
evolving into
Dr EROS: 10 Scorpio / 11th house

VALENTINE 27 Scorpio / 12th house
evolving into
Dr VALENTINE 17 Pisces / 3d house


AMOR 02 Sagittarius / 12th house
evolving into
Dr AMOR 21 Pisces / 3rd house


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posted November 27, 2015 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The progression from 12th to 3rd is interesting, seems to speak to what you have spoken of.. in terms of relating/communicating in the world. Bringing that loving nature out of the depths and into a communicable form..

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posted November 27, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That`s what I just realized myself, how I seem to start from a pretty deep place inside, but possibly keeping it all inside, but then evolving into a more outwardly oriented or communicative way.
I mean it is hard to miss how many of the Draco placements occupy Air-houses (3-7-11).

Dr PSYCHE
Dr EROS
Dr AMOR
Dr VALENTINE

and Dr Cupido occupying the 1st house and actually conjunct ASC AND NN, which I find very significant having a Draco planet on the NN.


BTW I have KARMA in (Gemini) in 7th house anyway.


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