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angel4845
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posted November 11, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the Difference if you could differentiate the two? and would you think that there is a similar feeling of wanting to obtain the planet or house individual emotionally?

taurus-scorpio are very possessive signs we are dealing with here.

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posted November 12, 2015 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted November 13, 2015 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 8H lunar overlay tends to be a rather profound emotional experience, in all honesty. I wouldn't say the 2H lunar overlay could hold a candle to it. Unless there's a sexualisation of the MOON, the overlay tends to be more pragmatic and even resource-minded rather than erotic. I'm not saying it can't have a sensuality about it, but that's not intrinsic in the overlay.

Instead, when someone's MOON is in our 2H, we may find emotional support that can buoy our self esteem. We could even make money together, or take on profitable ventures. The MOON may be able to easily help the 2H with their finances, and how to make better investments. It's a much more practical, no-nonsense, even frugal kind of energy. It tends to be focussed on finances, and how to monetise one's talents. On a deeper level, the MOON may be aligned with or hooked into our sense of values. This is wonderful if they're shared, but it can be problematic if there are strong differences here.

Where the MOON overlays is how the emotional energy is directed, and in what manner, area, or focus. That's why the 8H lunar overlay is innately sexual. It's also deeply psychological, with a tendency to delve way beneath the surface of things, leading to powerful transformation. In this way, it's apples compared to the 2H's oranges.

While the 2H can be an erotic house, when it's representative of sexuality, it's autosexuality. Some say it's 'what we have to give' to a lover, as opposed to what 'we receive from a lover', which is said to be the 8H.

I've just not found that to really be the case.

In an already established sexual relationship, the 2H can relate to our personal values as they reflect our greater sexuality, as well as be where we are more sensual than sexual. In that sense -- and only that sense -- one's MOON in another's 2H could show that their emotional energy is more focussed upon sensuality, as opposed to sexuality, or intense intimate bonding (8H), or being more casual and playful (5H) or seeking to settle down and secure a family (4H), or get married (7H).

But the above comes with the prequalifier of 'preestablished intimate relationship'.

In the absence of it, the 2H overlay is very unlikely to produce it. It's just not where its focus is; it's more geared towards helping the 2H to make money -- not love. It can be really great for business, though. It's a natural placement for a profitable working relationship.

Hope that helps clear some confusion. Curiously, who told you the 2H overlay is similar to the 8H overlay?

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posted November 13, 2015 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The 8H lunar overlay tends to be a rather profound emotional experience, in all honesty. I wouldn't say the 2H lunar overlay could hold a candle to it. Unless there's a sexualisation of the MOON, the overlay tends to be more pragmatic and even resource-minded rather than erotic. I'm not saying it can't have a sensuality about it, but that's not intrinsic in the overlay.

Instead, when someone's MOON is in our 2H, we may find emotional support that can buoy our self esteem. We could even make money together, or take on profitable ventures. The MOON may be able to easily help the 2H with their finances, and how to make better investments. It's a much more practical, no-nonsense, even frugal kind of energy. It tends to be focussed on finances, and how to monetise one's talents. On a deeper level, the MOON may be aligned with or hooked into our sense of values. This is wonderful if they're shared, but it can be problematic if there are strong differences here.

Where the MOON overlays is how the emotional energy is directed, and in what manner, area, or focus. That's why the 8H lunar overlay is innately sexual. It's also deeply psychological, with a tendency to delve way beneath the surface of things, leading to powerful transformation. In this way, it's apples compared to the 2H's oranges.

While the 2H can be an erotic house, when it's representative of sexuality, it's autosexuality. Some say it's 'what we have to give' to a lover, as opposed to what 'we receive from a lover', which is said to be the 8H.

I've just not found that to really be the case.

In an already established sexual relationship, the 2H can relate to our personal values as they reflect our greater sexuality, as well as be where we are more sensual than sexual. In that sense -- and only that sense -- one's MOON in another's 2H could show that their emotional energy is more focussed upon sensuality, as opposed to sexuality, or intense intimate bonding (8H), or being more casual and playful (5H) or seeking to settle down and secure a family (4H), or get married (7H).

But the above comes with the prequalifier of 'preestablished intimate relationship'.

In the absence of it, the 2H overlay is very unlikely to produce it. It's just not where its focus is; it's more geared towards helping the 2H to make money -- not love. It can be really great for business, though. It's a natural placement for a profitable working relationship.

Hope that helps clear some confusion. Curiously, who told you the 2H overlay is similar to the 8H overlay?


Thank you Aubyanne of your opinion on this I appreciate it so much

No one told me, i have just read a lot and from experience and still continuing my learning and development as I feel the 2H is a BIT similar to the 8H but at the same time DIFFERENT Why? because Taurus and Scoprio are very possessive signs and i know this from experience. Taurus is a very sensual sign and as scorpio is sexual. I believe scorpio and taurus are both indeed into money. 8th house is the house of inheritance and debts, and obviously the 2nd house is the house of our worth, values, and how we earn our income its also the house of beauty, superficiality, music, art things that are venusian and earthy and grounded like taurus.

Taurus is indeed very loyal and so is scorpio. Scorpio isn't superficial and that is the difference i find with Taurus. Taurus is sooooooo into partnership and is so possessive you don't agree aubyanne? i get that taurus is about finances and taking care of one's values as you had mentioned but the 2H is also the house of "this is MINE, your MINE", i've been with a lot of venus in taurus, and those with dominant 2H planets and they are very worthy of there things and the things they own and seem to have this PRIDE of there luxury which is sick in my opinion LOL. In a way Taurus can be very much like "I OWN you" but in a very superficial way seeing the person as an object of desire to just keep for themselves for selfish reason rather then owning there soul for who they really are.

his scorpio stellium is overlaying my 2H completely yes his moon is also overlaying my 8H so its really hard to tell which possessive energy am i feeling the most and i had have to say, ALL because i want to own his looks, his personality, his voice, his body, his smell, his money, his deep secrets, his sexuality of course, but we also have a lot of 12H overlays as well so there is a keen psychic telepathy in the room its intense. Also he was the one that came after me FIRST not me.....i was never interested in him i just thought he was attractive and that was about it solely and left at that until he came up to me and asked me out then his moon overlaying my 8H started coming into play.

I respect your opinion i just don't understand how you don't see the 2H as a possessive house? it seems that you feel the 8H is more possessive when it comes to intimate deep soul to soul bonding OF COURSE I AGREE but the 2H is also possessive but in a very superficial fake way imo which is sad. i don't think the 2H is sexual of course but i do feel the 2H is an intimate house and i don't think we should discredit that but in a nonsexual way, in a way where things look venusian, beautiful, pleasing, graceful, pleasuring, etc. but this is obviously done non-sexually.

but i do strongly feel he just saw me as something to **** ? lol not really wanting a deep soul to soul connection like me it seems since his moon overlays my 8H but that's okay.

and i' m sure he would love my moon overlaying his 2nd house because we are talking about Narcissist here LOL.
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posted November 13, 2015 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel you might be making a conceptual error, Angel. You're thinking 'Taurus = 2H'. While the Pottengers' 'math' may support that theory, it's often taken with a grain of salt, and utilised more to identify connexions between planetary pictures. But there's no one-to-one relationship between the house and the sign naturally ruling it. There are enough shared traits to draw similar conclusions, but it's never exact. The longer one does astrology, they tend to have keywords in their head to make readings go more smoothly. 2H is very rarely associated with 'sex', and its 'possessiveness' isn't sexual, either.

I do agree that you're confounding the issue by asking beyond the 8H overlay. That's a mic drop. It's a 'case closed, we're done here' kind of deal. THAT's where his emotional energy was directed. End of story.

Plus, you're the 8H in this, and many have argued it's the houser that feels it, rather than the MOON. I have many reasons as to why I disagree with that oversimplification, but it's already been expressed.

As to his Scorpio stellium overlaying your 2H, let's just go ahead and say the obvious here, okay?

IT'S A SCORPIO STELLIUM. With HIS MOON IN YOUR 8H.

It could be in the 6H, for all THAT matters. It's friggin' Scorpio, with his MOON in your 8H!

Uhhhhh. It ain't rocket science, sweetie.

Now, bring me a synastry with NO 8H involvement (or Scorpio) where there's intense, pleasure-motivated desire to 'own' the source of that experience. Because the 8H is VERY possessive of the MOON. You'd better believe it.

Wanna watch the sweet girl-next-door turn into a crazy bunny boiler in no time flat? Have her betrayed by the partner whose MOON is in her 8H.

It can get, uhm ...

... kinda ugly.

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posted November 13, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yeah it defently isn't rocket science here. Thanks aubyanne!

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posted November 13, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:

Yeah it defently isn't rocket science here. Thanks aubyanne!


No worries. Sometimes things really are that simple.

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posted August 02, 2020 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So is it possible that the Moon person might give the house person money?

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posted August 02, 2020 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for efaki94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from my expierence is the house that gives the money,the time and all the giving

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posted August 03, 2020 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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from my expierence is the house that gives the money,the time and all the giving

I’ve read that it’s the Moon person who gives to the house person. Or either they both benefit from each other.

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posted August 03, 2020 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for efaki94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ve read the same but I have my moon in my bfs 8th and he always supports me financially from the begging of the relationship (when I was unemployed) and in general.. Maybe it has to do with aspects too? I guess

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