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ChildofVenus
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posted November 16, 2015 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You read my Davison and Composite chart but I didn't have the correct birth time for the other person. This is what you said about the Davison and Composite chart.


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the venus/mars midpoint is conjunct the sun so there is a real affection between you and with the mercury/moon conjunction opposed to the sun, you have good laughter filled communication usually. pluto square to mercury.moon does show that sometimes I awkward silence can come over the conversation for no apparent reason. pluto often shows hidden emotional issues that interfere with co9nscious communication.

venus square to Jupiter increases the affection and gives a general happiness just being together. but with Neptune oppose to Venus, again ,there may be unspoken emotional issues that get in the way of intimacy. this square often shows that you both enjoy social situation and going put and enjoying yourselves.often this shows that you met with no intentions of looking for a relationship but just ended up getting along very well.

with venus trine to pluto and pluto sextile to Neptune, there is a very caring and sensitive feeling for each other.
with mars conjunct the south node ,he really has a magnetic affect on you.
I noticed that the node transit the composite Saturn on july 12 and is currently squaring the Jupiter/Saturn midpoint, so it seems he has not contacted you in the last few months.

the south node will conjunct the composite Jupiter on the 26th of December, so it is likely he will be make contact around Christmas if your union is destined.
todd.



I used 12:00pm for the other person because I don't know his correct birth time.

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posted November 16, 2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi

I didn't use the mc or ascendant so nothing really changes.
and the moon placement may be different but the mercury/pluto square would still be the same and so that is also the same.

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posted November 16, 2015 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so there may not be a moon/mercury conjunction? Instead it could be a a opposition, sextile, trine or square? Also what does Mars conjunct south node mean?


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hi

I didn't use the mc or ascendant so nothing really changes.
and the moon placement may be different but the mercury/pluto square would still be the same and so that is also the same.

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posted November 16, 2015 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok so there may not be a moon/mercury conjunction? Instead it could be a a opposition, sextile, trine or square? Also what does Mars conjunct south node mean?



No, if the moon placement changes, there wouldn't be a conjunction because the degrees of the moon sign changes.

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posted November 16, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I'm asking if it could possibly be a different aspect.

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No, if the moon placement changes, there wouldn't be a conjunction because the degrees of the moon sign changes.


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posted November 16, 2015 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's what I'm asking if it could possibly be a different aspect.


No, it's impossible for your moon sign to make a different aspect with a slight degree change. Try it, change his time of birth and look at the composite moon degrees.

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posted November 16, 2015 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So when Todd said the moon placement may be different he means that the moon could be in a different sign? I do know the persons moon is in Sagittarius but I was referring to the aspect between his moon and my mercury.
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No, it's impossible for your moon sign to make a different aspect with a slight degree change. Try it, change his time of birth and look at the composite moon degrees.

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posted November 16, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So when Todd said the moon placement may be different he means that the moon could be in a different sign? I do know the persons moon is in Sagittarius but I was referring to the aspect between his moon and my mercury.

I believe Todd was talking about the moon/Mercury conjunction in the composite. He means the degree of your composite moon sign will change, not the sign.

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posted November 16, 2015 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the conjunction between the moon and mercury will stay the same in the composite even if I change his birth time?
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I believe Todd was talking about the moon/Mercury conjunction in the composite. He means the degree of your composite moon sign will change, not the sign.

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posted November 16, 2015 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So the conjunction between the moon and mercury will stay the same in the composite even if I change his birth time?

It's possible. Do you talk to this guy often? Just ask for his time of birth.

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posted November 16, 2015 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So the conjunction between the moon and mercury will stay the same in the composite even if I change his birth time?

the defining factor is the square to pluto so even if the moon falls out of orb with mercury, the affect of pluto will still come through mercury.
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posted November 16, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
That's what I'm asking if it could possibly be a different aspect.


if you have one exact time in a composite and the other time is unknown, then when you put the unknown time at noon, the moons position can only be off by +/- 1.5 degrees. so the moon will still be in conjunction with a larger orb or it will be exact conjunct to mercury. but there is no other aspect the moon could make wit mercury.
in a composite chart the moon can only have a +/- 3 degrees variation if both times are unknown and put at noon. In a natal chart the moon's movement can be up to 13 degrees but in a composite, because it is derived by division, the moon can only have 6 degrees of variation. hence +/- 3 degrees calculated for noon.

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posted November 16, 2015 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand but I am asking if we would still have the Moon/Mercury conjunction even if I change his birth time. Do the Saturn aspect cause any issues? I know we have Mars sextile Saturn, Mercury sextile Saturn, Venus square Saturn. And a moon/Saturn conjunction because the two signs are the same. His moon is in Sagittarius and my Mercury is in Sagittarius. I only ask about Saturn because I know it's important to have Saturn aspects.
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the defining factor is the square to pluto so even if the moon falls out of orb with mercury, the affect of pluto will still come through mercury.
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posted November 16, 2015 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about in synastry? If you don't know one of the persons birth time? What happens with the moon then?

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if you have one exact time in a composite and the other time is unknown, then when you put the unknown time at noon, the moons position can only be off by +/- 1.5 degrees. so the moon will still be in conjunction with a larger orb or it will be exact conjunct to mercury. but there is no other aspect the moon could make wit mercury.
in a composite chart the moon can only have a +/- 3 degrees variation if both times are unknown and put at noon. In a natal chart the moon's movement can be up to 13 degrees but in a composite, because it is derived by division, the moon can only have 6 degrees of variation. hence +/- 3 degrees calculated for noon.

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posted November 16, 2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also what do you mean by emotional issues?

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posted November 16, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also what do you mean by emotional issues?

the issue are in the unconscious or subconscious and hence are hidden .
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posted November 16, 2015 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you mean emotional issues between us? And if he doesn't contact me around the end of December then that means I shouldn't reach out to him?

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]Also what do you mean by emotional issues?


the issue are in the unconscious or subconscious and hence are hidden .
todd[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted November 17, 2015 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the PROSERPINA-PLUTO DW guy?

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posted November 17, 2015 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it is

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Is this the PROSERPINA-PLUTO DW guy?

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posted November 17, 2015 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just that I don't know his real birth time.

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posted November 18, 2015 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure you read the charts correctly? He and I argue with each other. Do you see that in our synastry?

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