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CancerChick27
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posted November 22, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to say it, but i am somewhat obsessed with this Scorpio guy and have gone through such an amotional roller coaster so far I feel I have no where to turn for answers.


We have been "dating" the past 6 months. Not oficially together.

We met due to some really extreme circumstances going on in his life when he asked for my help, from there I fell in love.

I have had this stange connection to him from the moment I met him, and I know he feels it,too, although he would never say it.

In the beginning when we were hanging out as friends and I was helping him he was very chatty, upbeat, and fun. Now, he literally won't show emotion. We are always together when he comes back from work on the weekeds. He has introduced me to friends and family, and I have gone with him as his date to more than a few family/friends parties.

I take the emotionally shut down part as a form of rejection, then feel all insecure, and it drives me nuts. I am very cuddly with him, and he is sweet in other ways, and he said that since we started seeing each other he isn't seeing anyone else, but I just can't figure him out. I want more of a comittment from him (maybe actually referring to me as his girlfriend, that's a good start) but he said everything takes time. I see that eveything as far as emotional things are snails pace with him. I also know he is searching for "the one" (his words, and this was all before I looked up his sign info) but I wonder if I am just a time-passer for him while other issues are going on in his life or if he actually has deeper feelings for me, would like a future, but really is painfully cautious about letting himself feel for someone and expressing it.

I have read everywhere that Scorpios are very attentive and expressive when in love. Maybe he just isn't as into me as I am into him? Maybe he never will be? It's like he put up an even bigger wall once we crossed from the friend zone into dating.

I think he might be testing me to see if I will stick around (he has a history of women breaking his heart, but I bet it is also caused by his bad behavior during dating). He said in the past on 2 occasions when he really felt like she may have been "the one" and decided to commit, that they ended up leaving him. Says he doesn't know why.


To be honest, I don't mind sticking around if I know in the end when he feels like he can trust me and let's his guard down that we will be together and it will be different. I just don't want to think I am investing my feelings for nothing, and I can't just back off a little. It has always been an all or nothing thing with me, and even if I try to distance myself so I don't get to emotionally involved it just doesn't work. I also don't want to pressure him at all. I have never been a casual dater, and it's either 100% from me or nothing. I am also very verbal when it comes to expessing emotions, I prefer to talk out an issue than remain silent (most of the time), and he just gets overwhelmed and shuts down and then needs his space to recharge (which I'm ok with, as I do the private recharge thing myself at times).

I don't know this is so confusing.

If somebody could please please please help with a synastry breakdown I would oh so very much appreciate it.

It really is a long and crazy story, and I have this deep down feeling like we were supposed to meet and this was all supposed to happen and I haven't had that feeling before with someone (though I have had long-term relationships before).

He also has certain things he does or thinks is acceptable concerning other women that just really make me totally insecure and even harder in my mind to trust him.

there are so many more details, probably important, I just don't want to make this post too drawn out if it might not be helpful


Any help would be greatly appreciated please


My birthday : June 27 1986 in Washington DC time unknown (either 8:04 am or pm, not sure)

His birthday: November 3 1986 in Valle de Bravo, Mexico

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CancerChick27
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posted November 22, 2015 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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CancerChick27
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posted November 22, 2015 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I set both of our birth times to 12pm

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CancerChick27
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posted November 23, 2015 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 23, 2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a difficult composite, with Sun square Saturn and Venus/Mercury square Neptune. There's both a feeling of heaviness and a sense that it's impossible to define what's going on in any solid way on a romantic level. This is a very challenging combination because it can't be light-hearted and it can't be given the kind of solidity it demands either. Your Sun opposes both of your Neptunes, this makes it difficult for you to see the situation accurately as it relates to you. Emotionally you are just being put through the Uranus wringer, which is something you're used to but that being the only aspect for your Moon doesn't bode well for eventually feeling safe and secure in the relationship. He is getting more out of it emotionally, your words have been comforting and soothing for him and you're right he probably really appreciated it but it doesn't seem he's able to reciprocate amply here and you've got to do what's right for you. In the long run it will be better for everyone. Since you've asked, and seem to want a straight forward answer, I would advise moving on... because I don't think it's likely things are going to change and become the ideal you hope they might. I understand the all-or-nothing thing--I'm the same way. Ask yourself "an I getting it all?" If by now you aren't, then I think it might be best and for your highest good to let it go...

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 23, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus is significantly challenged here too. Maybe if you were meant to get together the lessons for you might relate to valuing yourself well and recognizing that when another person isn't treating you with the proper respect they aren't worthy of your time. It sounds like he isn't telling you the whole story about those past relationships to me. There is a reason those women left him and he probably knows what it is. That's a classic get-sympathy card people will use to excuse their closed-off behavior. He might be a wounded person but if he's not making you feel emotionally secure, loved andwanted I really don't think it's something you can change by proving your devotion to him. He has his own issues.

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 23, 2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yknow, i made several significant mistakes when interpreting because I find it so hard to read those charts. Really prefer astro.com

Will say more when I've time later. Apologies for mistakes

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CancerChick27
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posted November 23, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh wow ok thanks. I was pretty bummed today lol


I will get the chart from Astro.com and post it

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CancerChick27
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posted November 23, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is from Astro.com

I wasn't sure which box options to click

Thanks again

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 23, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sigh... it still looks pretty hard there my friend. I know this guy seems mysterious and magnetic but I tell you again: stop thinking about whether he likes you or not and commit to finding somebody who never ever makes you doubt it. Life is too short for that stuff and You Are Beautiful! You are a child of God/Universe/ShivaShakti etcetera ommm and there is love in the world for you!

I know how alluring a Scorpio Venus can be, and with his Sun there too he's probably just all ooze, right? Just oozing all that sensual charisma and mystery and getting away with everything. Moon at the end of Scorpio is an intense placement. An evolved Scorpio wouldn't be putting you through this stuff. This is pretty base stuff. Scorpios express love in many different ways, they are all different. He probably really appreciates how committed you're able to be, and elements of your softness and depth. But in many ways he just doesn't get you, he doesn't appreciate you, and you deserve to be "got" because you're clearly awesome.

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polkadotstars
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posted November 23, 2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All synastry aside, if a guy wants you, he will pursue you. There should be nothing confusing about it if a guy is into you. He will make it clear. You shouldn't be waiting around and driving yourself crazy with trying to interpret his every move.

My suggestion is to back off and see what he does. If he comes after you, then there's your answer.

Good luck!

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yungang_grotto
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posted November 23, 2015 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll bounce back. Moon-Jupiter ftw!!!

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CancerChick27
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posted November 24, 2015 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerChick27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much to you both.

I really appreciate it

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llewsacm
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posted November 24, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang is spot on. You are worth the fight so pull back and eventually you will find they will pursue you. In the meantime, keep looking for the better match.

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