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Topic: Mars/Saturn in synastry?
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Gemini30
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posted November 25, 2015 04:15 PM
  
What do you guys think about Mars/Saturn in synastry? It really is true when they say that is a common aspect in marriages. All of the people married in my family have this aspect with each other! It's no coincidence! Why is it though? I mean does it make Mars submit to Saturn? Especially when it's a women's mars to a man's saturn? I find the aspect of Mars/Saturn in synastry to be very interesting. IP: Logged |
tsubasa
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From: Finland
Registered: May 2012
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posted November 25, 2015 04:36 PM
Well... My ex and I were together for nearly 5 years and we had Mars square Saturn and Mars opposite Saturn, so it was a double whammy. I remember reading on Cafe Astrology that with these aspects, Saturn will eventually see Mars as childish, and try to get Mars to be "properly" - and Mars will try to rebel. The way we had it, we would switch the roles. My ex had his Mars in Gemini, so he liked to show off his skills and achievements and he was a bit of a comedian, too. Initially I thought it was funny, but over time it became old and I reprimanded him. Then sometimes, he'd take the Saturnian role and complain that I was reckless with money and didn't help enough with housework (that may have been the truth, my Mars is in Pisces  ) and he wanted me to live a very specific kind of life and that I shared his exact same values.But we were very young when we got together (I was 19, he was 21) and during those 5 years we both grew a lot, and apart from each other. I still loved him when we broke up, although it was mutual and we both knew it was for the best since all we did was fight and bicker, and we no longer felt connected. I think Mars can be connected to our humor and vitality, and how we get things done, so it's important that our planets sympathize with each other. I'm not sure about the submission part. I know I rebelled against my ex's demands for me and he persisted with his showmanship, maybe he thought that deep inside I considered those things endearing even though I told him he was being childish. I'd like to think that in a flowing aspect, Mars and Saturn agree with each other and value the same things, rather than have to fight to find common ground. But I've never had an easy Mars-Saturn aspect with anyone that I've been in a romantic relationship with, so I can't say I can very much imagine the smooth Mars-Saturn aspects being supportive for a more lasting union, if even this square-opposition combo kept me and my ex together for a while  IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted November 25, 2015 05:00 PM
What about Mars sextile Saturn in composite? IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted November 25, 2015 05:17 PM
His mars trine my saturn, my mars oppose his. Yeah we're married. Though I can't remember if it's one of the aspects that often show up. The aspects manifest as a bit of friendly rivalry between us. It's mostly on his part though, because it's in his personality to be (subtly) challenging and mischievous - so he likes to poke at me n my mind n likes seeing me "riled up". I'm more chilled, but I indulge him whenever he asks for it lol. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 25, 2015 05:20 PM
I think it sucks with a capital S.I'm not a fan of this aspect. My Mars is in Capricorn and his Saturn was exactly conjunct it... and also square his own Mars in Aries.
I really just can't stand him on any level. Very initially I was attracted, but things turned very negative between us with both of us being hyper-critical of each other.
The Mars person attacks the other in an overt way. Saturn is passive-aggressive instead.
But they always seem to be plotting against each other - because there is so much friction. That being said, a more spiritually evolved, kind hearted person - with the same Saturn placement - might've been good for me. Who knows?
This one was just toxic and yuck. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 25, 2015 05:23 PM
And - NO... to the submissive part.My Mars is conjunct Neptune and I am actually pretty submissive in general on a romantic/sexual level.
But I'm only like this with the right people (*cough* Scorpio Mars *cough*) - you know... people I trust! Well I had no trust whatsoever in this schmuck and no desire to be submissive at all! I wouldn't trust him to be in control of a toy truck - let alone *our* relationship. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 26, 2015 12:42 AM
I've been thinking lately about what kind of thing happens when two people have hard Mars Saturn aspects natally but no interchart aspects between the two. Natally i have Mars square Saturn. My friend has the opposition. Even though it's super rough and the opp. falls along my ascendant/descendant I feel like i have sympathy for his struggle and something to learn as I'm kinda in the same boat... different but... similar IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 26, 2015 07:34 AM
My parents have that, a Double Whammy conjunction (one at 00 degree, one at just under 5 degrees), in Virgo and Libra. Well, they`ve been married for over 40 years and still very much in love with each other and very affectionate. They do make a great team, too. I could imagine that it helps them to have shared goals to work on, so they can direct their energy in contructive ways to "build something", maybe that is why they dealt with this aspect in so effective ways. IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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From: Los Angeles
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posted November 26, 2015 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think it sucks with a capital S.I'm not a fan of this aspect. My Mars is in Capricorn and his Saturn was exactly conjunct it... and also square his own Mars in Aries.
I really just can't stand him on any level. Very initially I was attracted, but things turned very negative between us with both of us being hyper-critical of each other.
The Mars person attacks the other in an overt way. Saturn is passive-aggressive instead.
But they always seem to be plotting against each other - because there is so much friction. That being said, a more spiritually evolved, kind hearted person - with the same Saturn placement - might've been good for me. Who knows?
This one was just toxic and yuck.
Ouch im sorry to hear that you went through that. Do you think a DW Trine with Mars and Saturn would be better? Or are trines bad, just not as bad as the hard aspects?
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StillTippin
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Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 26, 2015 01:21 PM
I had this with someone and as a trine.Mars is our drive and Saturn is what limits us. I found the Saturn woman to be just that, limiting. Didn't help that it fell in my 5th house, just killed the romance. Every time I acted upon whatever reason that prompted me, she got restrictive. Its almost like the mars person intimidates the Saturn person. Mars is open, direct, and confident. All of those traits scare a Saturn person who is orderly, disciplined and cautious.
She was abusive, verbally. Bad attitude, miserable, boring. But not boring as in nothing to her, boring as in she was afraid to try new things. All it did was frustrate me further and it proved to me one thing;trines don't always mean peace. Trines mean that the energies combined flow together much easier. It what I experienced was a miserable person who wanting to control everything. She was fearful, mean, man she a *****
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Faith
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posted November 26, 2015 01:31 PM
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synmarssaturn.html I was saying on another thread that I was romantically involved with someone whose Mars was tightly (maybe exactly) conjunct my Saturn. He has a Mars-Saturn conjunction himself, which must alter it. It was hard to figure out our physical chemistry. I think my experiences were colored by disbelief and pessimism, especially at first. I think it could have gotten better and better over time. Because there was mutual understanding physically. We just needed to build on that. But other factors prevented a serious relationship from happening. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted November 26, 2015 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think it sucks with a capital S.I'm not a fan of this aspect.
I second this. Perhaps it's actual coincidence that this tends to 'tag along' in otherwise strong synastries. On its own, I've never found much good in it. Seems to frustrate the MARS and aggravate the SATURN. My husband's MARS is square my SATURN. Yeah. He's not a fan, either. IP: Logged |
LaGioconda
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From: NRW, Germany
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted November 26, 2015 02:36 PM
I have it in synastry, the conjunction is exact.
All these interpretations of "the bad bad saturn" do not hold true in this case. I don't have anything bad to say.
For me it means respect, commitment, the will to work together and stick together through thick and thin, deeply caring about the other etc...
But the Saturn energy might be handled better between two caps. I am Mars and it is true that I am the submissive part, but I enjoy it. I let him guide me and I have trust in his decisions... I agree with all of his decisions so I can only sit back and relax. IP: Logged |
angel4845
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posted November 26, 2015 04:07 PM
Me and my partner have an amazing intimate life by far and we have Mars CONJUNCT saturn in the 3rd house. Plus we are both Mars in cap so there is natural sexual chemistry here and on top her uranus also CONJUNCTS my Mars. What sucks is the square in my opinion not the conjunction. Unless you have Mars square Mars as well ohhhhh not a fan of that. ------------------
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Yanmorg
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posted November 30, 2015 10:32 AM
I currently have this aspect with my current boyfriend.His Saturn in the 1st is conjunct my Mars in the 7th (3 degrees). It has been very frustrating dealing with his Saturn, especially when our Pluto-Saturn is conjunct by 2 degrees and we're both Pluto-Saturn ruled. It has been frustrating when it comes to sex and everything else really. Bad timing and A TON of restrictions. Even though his Saturn is in his 1st house, a lot of our restrictions are outside-influenced. But overall, it just creates a since of structure and bond with him. I feel secure being in a relationship with him. My reply is probably biased because His Pluto is also conjunct my Venus EXACT at 0 degrees. His Mars is also conjunct my Venus at 0 degrees. Plus, His Saturn is opposite my ASC at 0 degrees. IP: Logged |
Cappi112
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From: New York, New York, USA
Registered: May 2015
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posted November 30, 2015 10:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Gemini30:
What do you guys think about Mars/Saturn in synastry? It really is true when they say that is a common aspect in marriages. All of the people married in my family have this aspect with each other! It's no coincidence! Why is it though? I mean does it make Mars submit to Saturn? Especially when it's a women's mars to a man's saturn? I find the aspect of Mars/Saturn in synastry to be very interesting.
With Saturn, after a relationship is very established, I actually look mainly at the composite placements. Everyone has their interpretation of this, but I noticed that my bf and I had a tough time with our tough SAturn synastry placements (there were tons - he has a very tough Saturn natal), but then once we were established, the easier Saturn energy (tons of that between us in composite) has been very apparent. We don't struggle against each other ever - but we're very bound, and very responsible together. It's a happy partnership. But while we were just getting established, we had a lot of Saturn / Mars and Venus / Mars hard energy. It made for lots of tension at times. We had to decide we were both 100% in before that got easy. But I WOULD say that Saturn has been a huge factor in our commitment. IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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posted December 01, 2015 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
With Saturn, after a relationship is very established, I actually look mainly at the composite placements. Everyone has their interpretation of this, but I noticed that my bf and I had a tough time with our tough SAturn synastry placements (there were tons - he has a very tough Saturn natal), but then once we were established, the easier Saturn energy (tons of that between us in composite) has been very apparent. We don't struggle against each other ever - but we're very bound, and very responsible together. It's a happy partnership. But while we were just getting established, we had a lot of Saturn / Mars and Venus / Mars hard energy. It made for lots of tension at times. We had to decide we were both 100% in before that got easy. But I WOULD say that Saturn has been a huge factor in our commitment.
Interesting about the composite! I curre tly have a DW mars trine saturn with a girl im dating now but her Saturn is in my 5th house and we have Mars opp Saturn in the composite. I gotta admit i feel this energy strongly. She has Moon square saturn and is Cap dominant but i dont have any Saturn placements and only 1 cap planet in Neptune. I feel this relationship wont last.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 01, 2015 03:49 AM
What is it like to have Mars sextile Saturn in composite?IP: Logged |
arcturus90
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posted June 28, 2018 07:36 PM
maybe attraction through / despite of age difference ? I have this aspect with one man and I feel this (my Mars Saturn conjunction well aspecting his Saturn)IP: Logged |
two-headed-she
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posted June 28, 2018 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What is it like to have Mars sextile Saturn in composite?
Sextile should generally be unchallenging..but, I would look at the progressed composite to read other current potential aspect to either of these planets for a better interpretation.
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Randall
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posted July 05, 2018 08:41 AM
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Plut0nian2
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posted July 05, 2018 11:04 AM
That's one aspect that I run away from.. Had it 3 times for sure and I didn't even ever had real relationship.. Always had the square and I've always been the Saturn person.
I thought it wouldn't be a problem since my rrlationship (if you can call them that) have been through internet mainly. But no! It was a huge problem even when they mentioned a kiss on my neck I would be like "ok stop it already I know where you going with this and if you ever mention it again we won't talk anymore".
I was always blocking them and once I was Saturn squaring both his Moon and Mars. Oh god.. that was the worst. But Saturn blocks Mars and Mars gets tired of it at some point.
I haven'ts seen this aspect generally in synastries when it comes to real intimate relationships. I just remember one frienf of mine had this once the conjuction and she was the Mars person it lasted very few months and she felt like he didn't want her and was blocking her especially sexually. I observed smth that left me shocked though.. My friend really acted imature with that specific person but she is not like that at all with other men! IP: Logged |
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