posted November 26, 2015 07:37 AM            

I have always been introverted despite my Leo rising but I've always been envious of extroverts. I wish I was one of those people who could walk into a room and everyone gravitates towards me. But I'm not.

Nearly everyone says how sweet I am. But I feel like this is one of the most annoying compliments. Old lady librarians are sweet. I'm afraid that in my career I'll only be labeled as sweet and passive rather than ambitious and take charge. *sign*

Can anyone provide me insight based on my chart that says I have hope to be anything other than the introverted and sweet girl? I feel as if I'm holding back some of my powerful side of my personality. But then again I don't know if there's any power there or if it's just something I wish I could be..

posted November 26, 2015 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
My whole life I've always been labeled as sweet and as a "girl next door" type of girl. My friends growing up were mostly guys who always talked about the hot girls in front of me. I of course was self conscious that I never was considered hot by them but rather more like a sister to them. I was always labeled "cute" instead of hot.

I have always been introverted despite my Leo rising but I've always been envious of extroverts. I wish I was one of those people who could walk into a room and everyone gravitates towards me. But I'm not.

Nearly everyone says how sweet I am. But I feel like this is one of the most annoying compliments. Old lady librarians are sweet. I'm afraid that in my career I'll only be labeled as sweet and passive rather than ambitious and take charge. *sign*

Can anyone provide me insight based on my chart that says I have hope to be anything other than the introverted and sweet girl? I feel as if I'm holding back some of my powerful side of my personality. But then again I don't know if there's any power there or if it's just something I wish I could be..

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posted November 26, 2015 07:52 AM            

I would say your introversion is mainly a product of having intercepted 1st/7th houses. Plus they're angular houses and so important in the definition of personality and the relationship with others.

Obviously the 8th house Sun/Mercury/Moon makes you very reserved. But on the other hand it can be good that your personality (Sun) is in sync with your emotions (Moon)

I'm not sure you're nice if someone manages to get on your nerves, namely by stepping on your beliefs or mocking your ideas (9th).

The Pisces stellium can give you patience but that Mars in Aries is strong! Plus, with a fiery Mars and Venus you can get in touch with a different side of yourself.

Chiron square the Moon is another indication that maybe you try to be super nice so people don't hurt. There seems to be a fear of rejection by peers with Chiron in the 11th.

Ahhh, did you notice you have a yod? Chiron is in the appex! Pluto sextile Neptune are the base. Basically I've read somewhere than the house opposite the appex is where the solution lies. I can see why you're not so satisfied with not being viewed as that sexy/fun/extroverted woman since those are 5th house matters.

posted November 26, 2015 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
My whole life I've always been labeled as sweet and as a "girl next door" type of girl. My friends growing up were mostly guys who always talked about the hot girls in front of me. I of course was self conscious that I never was considered hot by them but rather more like a sister to them. I was always labeled "cute" instead of hot.

I have always been introverted despite my Leo rising but I've always been envious of extroverts. I wish I was one of those people who could walk into a room and everyone gravitates towards me. But I'm not.

Nearly everyone says how sweet I am. But I feel like this is one of the most annoying compliments. Old lady librarians are sweet. I'm afraid that in my career I'll only be labeled as sweet and passive rather than ambitious and take charge. *sign*

Can anyone provide me insight based on my chart that says I have hope to be anything other than the introverted and sweet girl? I feel as if I'm holding back some of my powerful side of my personality. But then again I don't know if there's any power there or if it's just something I wish I could be..

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posted November 27, 2015 06:04 AM            

The fact that you feel this way is a classic example of how western society overvalues traditionally masculine qualities and undervalues feminine ones... Like quietness, shyness, sensitivity, and caution. I remember reading that in some Asian cultures it's actually the opposite. Being overly loud and too aggressive makes a person seem silly and disruptive in that culture. Whereas more quiet cautious types are considered wise and mature.

Honestly, the western bias towards revering masculine traits can sometimes make more naturally reserved folks feel badly about themselves. But it's totally a matter of perspective. There is nothing wrong with being quiet and thoughtful. There is noting wrong with being outgoing and active either. Both personality types have their value. Had you been born in a different culture you attitude towards yourself would be totally different. I say embrace your natural tendencies because there are bound to be plenty of other people who will appreciate them. And I'm not talking about surface level popularity here. I'm talking about certain special individuals you'll meet in your life who in turn are able to recognize something special in you. Everybody is lovable in their own way. There is nothing inferior about being quiet!! Or loud for that matter!

About the 'sweetness' thing...

It can't be that much of a problem because I'm pretty sure you've had at least one boyfriend. Do you really want a bunch of random guys who are probably only after one thing fawning over you? In most guy's minds a sweet girl is seen as someone who is respectable, someone they are more likely to take seriously. That means that only guys who really really like you are likely to approach... As opposed to every random guy who wants to get some (to put it bluntly). Also, I'm pretty sure that all your boyfriends must have been attracted to you. Or why would they bother?

Everyone has different taste. The right person will appreciate the way you are. And some guys actually do prefer reserved sweet women. So OWN it. I'm this way myself and I actually kinda like it. Had enough attention from the opposite sex to know that my so-called 'quiet sweet girl' image is not a drawback by any means. Sometimes it's actually the reason why certain people pick you. And I just kind of instinctively know I'm worth it. A women with graceful self-assurance is always attractive whether shes reserved or outgoing. That self-assurance comes from recognizing the natural value in yourself regardless of what society says. And people can sense it. (This is not the same thing as arrogance, it's more like an inner peace which allows you not to put pressure on yourself. Knowing you don't need to be anything other then how you really are.)

posted November 27, 2015 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Could your time of birth thus rising sign be wrong? You could easily be Cancer rising instead of Leo.

Do you find yourself attracted to really weird or unusual people, people that most of your friends or family wouldn't picture you with? Like the odd couple or something? Then you would be Leo rising. If not, I would think there is a mistake with your time of birth and you might be cancer rising instead.

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Not necessarily,

I'm a Sag rising and I'm fairly quiet. That's because both my Sun and Moon are in feminine signs, and I have a strongly aspected Saturn. When I'm around the right people I come out of my shell though. Polkadot Also has a feminine Sun and Moon.

posted November 27, 2015 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Not necessarily,

I'm a Sag rising and I'm fairly quiet. That's because both my Sun and Moon are in feminine signs, and I have a strongly aspected Saturn. When I'm around the right people I come out of my shell though. Polkadot Also has a feminine Sun and Moon.

Masculine signs characteristics do not always manifest completely as loudness. Having an adventurous, active mind does not always show on the outside. Fire signs have enthusiasm and passion for life, and tend to be idealistic. This will be true even if the person has other things in their chart which tone them down on the outside. Plus I'm sure that Polkadot comes out of her shell when she's comfortable with people. The Leo rising probably manifests more as a romantic idealistic outlook on the world rather then just plain 'loudness'. My Sag rising tends to manifest as curiosity, a positive attitude, and an endless quest to learn as much as possible. I'm only 'loud' when I'm comfortable.

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I know understated Leo rising women in real life, and the are understated by choice.

posted November 28, 2015 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Not necessarily,

I'm a Sag rising and I'm fairly quiet. That's because both my Sun and Moon are in feminine signs, and I have a strongly aspected Saturn. When I'm around the right people I come out of my shell though. Polkadot Also has a feminine Sun and Moon.

Masculine signs characteristics do not always manifest completely as loudness. Having an adventurous, active mind does not always show on the outside. Fire signs have enthusiasm and passion for life, and tend to be idealistic. This will be true even if the person has other things in their chart which tone them down on the outside. Plus I'm sure that Polkadot comes out of her shell when she's comfortable with people. The Leo rising probably manifests more as a romantic idealistic outlook on the world rather then just plain 'loudness'. My Sag rising tends to manifest as curiosity, a positive attitude, and an endless quest to learn as much as possible. I'm only 'loud' when I'm comfortable.

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Sorry I haven't been able to respond sooner. I am traveling and haven't been on my phone as much.

But yes! This sounds a lot like me. I always thought my Leo rising would make me boisterous and the life of the party, which I've always wanted to be. But the way you are describing the Leo rising is the exact definition of what I am. I guess my Pisces sun moon and Mercury drown it out some at first glance....

My birth time is correct. I have verified on my birth certificate.

posted November 28, 2015 11:38 AM            

I think it's interesting that you have the wish and urge to be hot, sexy and to be viewed as outgoing and vibrant.

In my opinion this comes from the very strong Mars/Venus Conjunction in Aries you have!

The Problem with it is, that Neptune squares it.
So it could feel dampened and lead to a kind of passive aggressiveness, because you feel like not being able to express your strong energy.

Another thing is Saturn squaring your luminaries, if I see that right.
Another factor that makes self-expression harder and causes introversion and fear of opening up.

I think you have a very intense energy and you can definetly bring it out if you combine your Neptunian traits which are more spiritual and affectively orientated with the "here and now" power of Aries.