posted November 27, 2015 02:18 AM            

This planetary pattern consists of an opposition with a trine and sextile from another planet.

In astrology this is an excellent configuration for the following reasons:

The opposition (180 degrees) can indicate tension with another, usually your marriage or business partner, sometimes a consultant or counselor, sometimes a rival; in fact anyone with whom you have a one to one focus. The aim is learn to negotiate with this person so as to be able to associate in a co-operative and mutually beneficial way. However the tensions generated by the opposition can make this quite difficult.

A trine (120 degrees) is an energy that is easy flowing and usually very harmonious. In relation to an opposition it can describe an inherent talent or ability that enables you to sort out the tensions engendered by the opposition and turn them into assets.

The sextile (60 degrees) is an aspect that gives skill in communication and networking. In relation to an opposition it gives the ability to explain what causes tension and discuss ways to resolve problems.

The planet that is the focus of the sextile and trine is the Point of Thales planet. It is a great asset in enabling you to use your opposition in a balanced, co-operative way that benefits all parties.

Therefore the Point of Thales pattern in astrology can describe an excellent negotiator, or someone who is able to solve disputes and disagreements harmoniously.

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So I think knowing what your point of thales are in relation to your nodes would bring light on how to bring balance between the nodes or important themes in your life which are ongoing and an important part of who you are and why you are here. I have checked out charts of leaders that I admire and many of them have a point of thales to their nodes involving their passion and the mark they are leaving behind in this world.

posted November 27, 2015 02:26 AM            

Northnode in Gemini @19d42
Southnode in Saggit @19d42

Point of Thales:
Bacchus in Leo @16d53
Valentine in Leo @18d44
Isis-Transpluto @19d40
Vertex in Leo @20d30
True Priapus in Leo @20d00

*Husbands northnode conjuncts this stellium.

Point of Thales:
Church in Libra @19d26
Arthur in Libra @20d03
Venusia in Libra @21d06
Ophelia in Libra @22d17

*My Ex Venus-Pluto conjuncts this Stellium.

Point of Thales:
True Lilith in Aqua @20d00
Anti Vertex in Aqua @20d30

*My Dad's Venus conjuncts this point.

Point of Thales:
Serendip in Aries @16d42
Pholus in Aries @18d34
Persephone in Aries @22d34

*Mr.Aqua's Moon-Mars conjuncts this stellium.

posted November 27, 2015 05:58 AM            

hence POT:

posted November 27, 2015 08:55 AM            

My Point of Thales is Pluto in the 8th (great so I can be even more obssessed with Pluto :-P)

Pluto Rx 12º44' Scorpio sextile Saturn Rx 11º49' / Neptune Rx 11º27' Capricorn (11th)

Pluto trines Venus 13º47' Cancer (5th)

Saturn/Neptune conjunction opposes Venus - closing the pattern.

I feel like use that 8th house Pluto to solve my Venus-Saturn/Neptune issues is like throwing gasoline to a fire. But maybe that's because I don't really know how to control myself without going overboard and just shut down and repress my emotions.

Awesome I knew there had to be a name for that formation in my chart. It just dominates it.

posted November 27, 2015 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my NN 10°10 Sag
my SN 10°10 Gemini

hence POT:

10°10
Aries
Leo
Libra
Aqua

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Hobby in Libra @10d22

Joya in Aries @8d09
Asmodeus in Aries @8d58
Baal in Aries @8d58
Philosophia in Aries @9d28
Talent in Aries @12d12

Spirit in Aqua @8d56
Apollonia in Aqua @10d02
Odysseus in Aqua @12d41
Devota in Aqua @12d54

Adorea in Leo @7d33
Destinn in Leo @8d44
Nessus in Leo @10d10
Union in Leo @10d17
Hylonome in Leo @12d23
Veritas in Leo @12d29

In the 8th house..

Wow so my Nessus is at your point of thales and my dad's but I feel I need to look at the entire stellium to see its meaning.

Veritas- Asteroid Veritas is named after the goddess of truth.

Hylonome- Hylonome will show where you will make the ultimate sacrifice, who and what you will die for. If it is conjunct Ceres in the 5th you would die for your children, in the 9th conjunct Neptune a chance you may martryr yourself for religious beliefs.

Perhaps I would die for a cause I adore involving raising awareness of the truth that is not easily available to others or seeking for the truth. Or maybe not die for but take great risks and sacrifices that would lead to my destruction or near destruction.

posted November 27, 2015 01:15 PM            

Does that count?

Edit: I can see that it probably does. I feel a strange sense of imperative-ness and slight anxiety sometimes looking at my chart. Like why am I not utilizing all of this to greater effect in the world? But small inner changes add up and I don't need to do everything all at once. Alsoworking through issues and everything is important.Don't mean to sound too hoity toity but that's how I feel you know? A feeling of specialness can get in the way of smooth emotional experiences and relating.. that's kinda what I worry about too.

posted November 27, 2015 01:41 PM            

you are a walking asteroid encyclopedia.

I have some asteroids on my Points of Thales myself.

PALLAS 9 Aquarius
GIZA 10 Aries
ASTARTE 10 Gemini
KAALI 12 Gemini
Inannen 12 Gemini
Pluto 09 Libra
APHRODITE 13 Libra

posted November 27, 2015 06:44 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yun,

my Jupiter on 11 PIsces is on your NN then (and Ceres on 9 Pisces close enough)

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posted November 27, 2015 08:36 PM            

I guess she finds some stuff I say interesting too, even though she is more of the teacher between the two of us, as my Philosophia, Apollonia and Hobby are on her point of thales.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
lol Hypatia,

you are a walking asteroid encyclopedia.

I have some asteroids on my Points of Thales myself.

PALLAS 9 Aquarius
GIZA 10 Aries
ASTARTE 10 Gemini
KAALI 12 Gemini
Inannen 12 Gemini
Pluto 09 Libra
APHRODITE 13 Libra

Btw my Draco Chiron is on 9°52 Leo.

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That is such a nice compliment! thanks.

Nice mix you got there, I love that Pallas is in your point of thales it explains your high intelligence IMO!. Pallas aspecting nodes or mercury or sun tends to equal high intelligence I feel.

posted November 28, 2015 12:12 PM            

I've got a tonne o' those.

SUN sextile / trine NODES
PLUTO sextile / trine NODES
BML sextile / trine NODES
NEPTUNE trine / sextile NODES
PRIAPUS trine / sextile NODES

And, in 'roidland:

VALENTINE (trine)
PROSERPINA (trine)
PSYCHE (sextile)

I'm intrigued that my SUN is one of the tightest ones; at a 0º30 sextile to my 12H NNODE in Leo (conjunct OSIRIS).

What's the deal with the SUN being 'on' the Point of Thales of the NODES? I do enjoy Alice's work.

Synastrically, there's some cool stuff going on, too.

Jack's MOON is trine my NNODE, (4º) which is naturally opposite my SUN. His MARS is then sextile my NNODE (also 4º). Along with his MOON, his BML/NYMPHE is also trine (NNODE). Then he's got his VALENTINE/MADHATTER/ANTEROS/LUST all sextile my NNODE / trine my SNODE.

Lot happening, synastrically there.

My husband's -- ehh, we'll call him Preston. (That's his name, after all. Why'm I hiding? I don't even know anymore.) Preston's SUN is conjunct my PSYCHE with his PRIAPUS/SATURN, so these are also sextile my NNODE, trine my SNODE. His URA, (his 7R) is exactly conjunct my SUN, and thus sextile my NNODE as well. His MOON's trine my NNODE, too.

Oh, wow ...

Lightbulb moment.

Jack's MOON is trine Preston's, 2º; Aries and Sag respectively. Do you think our odd simpatico, karmic ties, and curious linkage (through me) has to do with their MOONs aspecting my Point of Thales in regards to my NODES?

posted November 28, 2015 01:56 PM            

Actually I accidentally learned about this astrological pattern. I kept noticing it in charts and started to realize that is was a very important pattern so I asked what that pattern was involving an opposition and one planet/object forming a trine and sextile to the opposition and CERI was the one that told me that was called the Point of Thales and so then I googled searched it and found that article from Alice but I had already witnessed its power and was gobsmacked by it.

posted November 28, 2015 02:25 PM            

Well I think I must have read the site you linked, too.

And like you I´ve noticed that as well (not just in terms of nodes) in oppositons how often they have a Point of Thales activated.

Let me think in the synastry with Mr Sag.
Mmh,

nope, he hasn`t got anything on my POT positions. interestingly enough.

He has a NN on 1 Virgo and my Uranus is on 1 Scorpio, hence sextile it exactly, and my VESTA on 1 Capricorn trines it exact, too (we are talking about orbs of 0°01 and 0°00)

When we first met my pr Moon had just entered Taurus and was on 00 of that sign and well conjunct my 5th house cusp on 01 Taurus.

Additionally Tr Saturn was on 2 Virgo right on his NN.
I`ll never understand why HE was having those karmic markers to his chart. (Tr Pluto had just been transiting over his Moon as well and in fact in the first meeting there was a one degree conjunction of Tr Moon-Pluto on 00 and 01 Capricorn, hence conjunct my Vesta and trine his NN and actually I would count his own Vesta on 2°59 Taurus as in orb as well).

Anyway

the composite NN on 20 Libra, has not only the conjunctions to Amor-Cupido-Camelot on 20 Libra and Mars on 23 LIbra, Chariklo on 18 Aries on the SN and those squares to Moon (22 Cap) and Venus (16 Cap), but in fact some harmonious aspects as well.

NN 20 Libra:
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sextile SIVA 21 Sagittarius

trine OSIRIS 21 Aquarius

sextile Saturn 21 Leo

the NN is the focal point of the minor triangle involving Sun on 26 Sag trine Saturn on 21 Leo and both sextile Mars on 23 Libra on the NN, with Mars ruling the SN.

posted November 28, 2015 02:32 PM            

I have CYLLARUS (her soulmate) on 2 Capricorn exact conjunct NYMPHE On 2 Capricorn and VESTA on 1 Capricorn, and lol, so that means Cyllarus is ALSO on HIS Point of Thales.

HYLONOME in my chart is on 8 Cancer at the end of the 7th house, opposing my ISIS on 8 Cap exact, and of course also opposing Venus on 6 Cap, OSIRIS on 7 Cap, SPIRIT-GUINEVERE On 10 Cap.

trine ISHTAR on 8 Pisces, sextile HEKATE on 8 Virgo, and so on (such alot of feminine symbols lumpng together in my chart).

But anyway HYLONOME is not on my Point of Thales.

posted November 28, 2015 02:57 PM            

I had noticed this cause, those 17 degrees turn up in my chart as well (and they did not in Mr Sag`s chart which always surprised me).

Anyway here in this instance I have

JUNO on his SN 0°18
CAMELOT (loosely) on his NN 2°37

I have KARMA-ATERNITAS conjunct with an orb of 0°02 (and don`t even ask me why I was thinking of Aeternitas just now. lol)

Anyway

KARMA square his NN 1°16
AETERNITAS square his NN 1°18
KARMA conjunct his KARMA 1°17
AETERNITAS conjunct his KARMA 1°15

But what I did NOT notice so far.

my Saturn (on his LUST 0°37) sextile his NN 0°19

my LANCELOT sextile his NN 0°29
(so his nodal axis is on my Saturn/Lancelot-mp and LANCELOT? )

my CERI trine his NN (0°18)

And what I never even knew before

his AETERNITAS conjunct my CERI 1°58

As for his aspects to MY nodal axis

his Venus loosely square my nodes: 3°44
his Priapus loosely square my Nodes: 3°03

(his Venus-Priapus also conjunct my Jupiter, Ceres and Juno with 2 and 3 degree orbs, in fact falling onto the Jupiter/Juno-mp and Ceres/Juno-mpd, which are too far to be considered conjunct on their own with an orb of 6-7 degrees, but his Venus-Priapus falling right into the middle. lol)

his Saturn square my Nodes: 2°06
(and of course this means we have the infamous Saturn-Neptune-square as well in synastry, becasue Neptune is on my NN).

his Venus/Saturn-mp (they are opposite by about 6 degrees) falls onto my nodal axis exact)

as for the nicer aspects:

his JUNO trine my NN 1°07
his LANCELOT trine my NN (2°12

LOL that means we BOTH have a Lancelot-Juno-trine natally. and in both cases the Juno/Lancelot-mp falls onto the nodal axis, and we both have a planet exact on the NN, so that one is in play, too. in my case it is NEPTUNE, in his case it is the MOON.

posted November 30, 2015 06:00 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Auby you have Endymion conjunct Sun as the point of Thales of your nodes! An exact schrodinger trine Tardis and Venus conjunct Hypnos..Fascinating given the ongoing astral travel theme in your life.

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Ahhhh. Right. Of course. I was thinking about what's conjunct my SUN -- ENDYMION. Yes, it is.

And! And!

... His SUN-ENDYMION is also sextile his NODES!

Hah! How've I never noticed that?

posted December 02, 2015 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ahhhh. Right. Of course. I was thinking about what's conjunct my SUN -- ENDYMION. Yes, it is.

And! And!

... His SUN-ENDYMION is also sextile his NODES!

Hah! How've I never noticed that?

His SCHRODINGER is exactly conjunct his NNODE (0º00) which is trine his HYPNOS sextile his SUN-ENDYMION. The only aspect his TARDIS makes is the conjunction to his DNA. But, hey. That says a lot in and of itself.

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