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Topic: Three Grand Trines and a Stellium?
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Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 06, 2015 08:09 AM
Hi everyone,I was wondering if anyone could give some insight into the enclosed composite and synastry charts. With regards to our composite chart, we have three grand air trines and a 4th House stellium. With our synastry chart, we have an air trine and both our moons are in the 8th house. If anyone could provide some further input, it would be much appreciated. Thank you. :-) IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 06, 2015 09:01 AM
Btw, I'm the blue planets, in the synastry chart. I'm male, the partner is female.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 06, 2015 03:06 PM
Hi Do you have the correct TOBs for both persons?Welcome to LL ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 06, 2015 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Hi Do you have the correct TOBs for both persons?Welcome to LL
Hi!Yes, they are correct. :-) Me: 20:55 Her: 01:56 IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6223 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 04:24 AM
Welcome to LL. I'm not seeing any grand trines, to be honest. Trines, yes; MOON trine MERCURY, and VENUS trine PLUTO. Very nice trines! But these are not ALL trine, thus, no grand trine. IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 05:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Welcome to LL. I'm not seeing any grand trines, to be honest. Trines, yes; MOON trine MERCURY, and VENUS trine PLUTO. Very nice trines! But these are not ALL trine, thus, no grand trine.
Hello,I'm somewhat bewildered by your post. A grand trine is made up of three trine placements, right? Unless the chart isn't clear enough (and believe me, all those lines made it difficult for me to figure out what's trine and what's not), I'm afraid you're mistaken (well, according to astro.com). To make sure, I clicked on all the planets to double-check that they all trine. Below are the trine aspects (directly lifted from the astro.com chart readings): Sun Trine Ascendant Sun Trine Pluto Moon Trine Pluto Moon Trine Venus Moon Trine Mercury Mercury Trine Pluto Venus Trine Pluto Saturn Trine Ascendant Saturn Trine Uranus Jupiter Trine Uranus Jupiter Trine Saturn Jupiter Trine Ascendant
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6223 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 06:03 AM
I don't count a trine of 6°30 orb. I get that Astrodienst may, but that's a pretty wide orb. Even still, forsaking argument, that's two grand trines -- not three. That's only by taking the VENUS-MERCURY to be trine the MOON and PLUTO. Personally, the MOON seems too far out for the trine to PLUTO, but is nicely in orb with MERCURY. Conversely, PLUTO is too far out for the SUN, but tightly trine VENUS. I don't see the problem. Just some nice trines. IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I don't count a trine of 6°30 orb. I get that Astrodienst may, but that's a pretty wide orb. Even still, forsaking argument, that's two grand trines -- not three. That's only by taking the VENUS-MERCURY to be trine the MOON and PLUTO. Personally, the MOON seems too far out for the trine to PLUTO, but is nicely in orb with MERCURY. Conversely, PLUTO is too far out for the SUN, but tightly trine VENUS. I don't see the problem. Just some nice trines.
Okay, thank you for the clarification. :-)Even though there's no such thing as a perfect composite/synastry chart, what's your general impression of ours? Thanks. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 05:30 PM
These are great charts for a relationship, on many levels. What is the orb between the Suns? It looks like a perfectly valid sextile to me, and so is the Sun/Neptune sq.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 05:32 PM
IMO, you have two interconnected Kites in the composite, hence two GTs.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: IMO, you have two interconnected Kites in the composite, hence two GTs.
Wow! I never noticed that before! Is that something to be concerned about, as I remember somewhere saying that the fourth placement adversely affects two of the placements that form a grand trine.IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: These are great charts for a relationship, on many levels. What is the orb between the Suns? It looks like a perfectly valid sextile to me, and so is the Sun/Neptune sq.
Thats very encouraging, LeeLoo2014. Thanks for that. :-)
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Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 06:40 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Vinnu: quote:
Wow! I never noticed that before! Is that something to be concerned about, as I remember somewhere saying that the fourth placement adversely affects two of the placements that form a grand trine.
Really? Who said that? first time I hear. No, the Kite, in my view (and not just mine) gives a direction, momentum and purpose to the GT. The GT is a "circular", symmetrical structure *these structures function as islands, while the Kite is an apex, directional structure. The entire energy of the GT is pouring through the apex of the Kite and the GT (which is a supportive, background structure) gathers a direction, a purpose. In your case, for instance, Moon Pluto Venus (intense, yet comfortable obsession lol) pours into Neptune in the 2nd, ruler of the 6th, with Virgo ruling 12th: through a slow and seemingly all around accepted process, subversive and with no obvious fuss around it, it dissolves structures here. On a negative note, it could make you two stay high all the time, either on your own shared emotions or other external sources, and then use all resources for this purpose, up to frailty and loss of health. On a positive note, you can use the combined deep, transforming, clingy energy of Moon Pluto Venus to get rich or to become a couple of successful rich artists or philantropists, alternative healers, especially through liquids, music, sound or words. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Really? Who said that? first time I hear.
LOL! There are so many conflicting sources out there that it can get confusing, hence why I'm here. :-) quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: No, the Kite, in my view (and not just mine) gives a direction, momentum and purpose to the GT. The GT is a "circular", symmetrical structure *these structures function as islands, while the Kite is an apex, directional structure. The entire energy of the GT is pouring through the apex of the Kite and the GT (which is a supportive, background structure) gathers a direction, a purpose.
Gotcha! Thanks for the clarification. quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: In your case, for instance, Moon Pluto Venus (intense, yet comfortable obsession lol) pours into Neptune in the 2nd, ruler of the 6th, with Virgo ruling 12th: through a slow and seemingly all around accepted process, subversive and with no obvious fuss around it, it dissolves structures here. On a negative note, it could make you two stay high all the time, either on your own shared emotions or other external sources, and then use all resources for this purpose, up to frailty and loss of health. On a positive note, you can use the combined deep, transforming, clingy energy of Moon Pluto Venus to get rich or to become a couple of successful rich artists or philantropists, alternative healers, especially through liquids, music, sound or words.
Blimey! That sounds too good to be true but extremely encouraging. IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 07:15 PM
So, what would the trine of Pluto Mercury Moon imply?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 07:16 PM
Which one? the high part? just teasing you that's the same trine, it's not separate IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 07:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Which one? the high part? just teasing you
LOL! More the positively 'clingy' and working together/successful aspects.IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 07:18 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16946 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 07:20 PM
Clingy, high and successful...what more could you wish for? Good luck get those GTs spinning.IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 07, 2015 07:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Clingy, high and successful...what more could you wish for? Good luck get those GTs spinning.
Ha, ha! I will try to do my best. ;-)As for the Pluto Mercury Moon trine, that indicates ease of communication, right?
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6223 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 07:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: IMO, you have two interconnected Kites in the composite, hence two GTs.
I can definitely see that. IP: Logged |
Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 08, 2015 11:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I can definitely see that.
And how would you sum things up, Aubyanne?It's always good to read other opinions. :-)
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Vinnu Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 08, 2015 08:10 PM
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