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Topic: Grand Trine / Kite in Composite
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Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 09:32 AM
  
I've been searching into more descriptions about having a Grand kite(?) in a composite chart between my partner and I. I've read that the Grand Trine is a harmonic aspect but can also lead to a "can't get out of it" loop. What would a Kite be to it then? Our Grand trine is in Earth - All within 1 degree, with the kite pointing to our moon in Virgo 8H, the two trines are Moon to Neptune AND ASC (we have Neptune Conj. ASC in the composite 1H, dead smack on each other) and the other is to our NN (residing in the 4th House). The bottom of the kite is Jupiter in Pisces 2H. Would the NN count in this grand trine?Also, is this suppose to be a generally "harmonic" aspect or is it a negative thing? I've really read up on both, I'm not sure what or how to interpret it. Anyone have any grand trines or kites in their composite charts with others? IP: Logged |
Cappi112
Knowflake Posts: 436
From: New York, New York, USA
Registered: May 2015
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posted December 16, 2015 10:09 AM
I don't think it's possible to generalize a formation this complex as overall harmonic or otherwise. In my experience, it is a very powerful and karmic formation. How it manifests is your experience. In my opinion, Grand Kites are a good thing to have in composite - a sort of lifting off, big picture binding influence. To me, it represents a couple coming together to be more powerful than they would on their own - the relationship itself has a big goal. That can mean a lot of things, though. My sister and her husband have this formation in their composite, and I believe it shows in how they have transformed as individuals through their relationship (and most likely always will). They have many otherwise tough aspects but this, to me, shows that they are basically meant to be together this way. But I think it can exist in charts where people come together for negative reasons that are still karmic. It's crucial to analyze the planets and houses involved and what they mean to you. Also, how the relationship seems to be on the whole. A relationship, afterall, can be powerful and transformative but not meant to last for long... And so on, and so forth...  IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
I don't think it's possible to generalize a formation this complex as overall harmonic or otherwise. In my experience, it is a very powerful and karmic formation. How it manifests is your experience. In my opinion, Grand Kites are a good thing to have in composite - a sort of lifting off, big picture binding influence. To me, it represents a couple coming together to be more powerful than they would on their own - the relationship itself has a big goal. That can mean a lot of things, though. My sister and her husband have this formation in their composite, and I believe it shows in how they have transformed as individuals through their relationship (and most likely always will). They have many otherwise tough aspects but this, to me, shows that they are basically meant to be together this way. But I think it can exist in charts where people come together for negative reasons that are still karmic. It's crucial to analyze the planets and houses involved and what they mean to you. Also, how the relationship seems to be on the whole. A relationship, afterall, can be powerful and transformative but not meant to last for long... And so on, and so forth...
Good insight! I believe that's a good assessment of this aspect. My cousin and her husband has a YOD in their composite. Although they have some "yikes" aspects in synastry and composite, they are still together after 14 years. They told me that they were so close to breaking up once, many years ago when my cousin was going through a bunch of sh*t in her life...add that together with her strong temperments = combustion. I'm very happy for them though, I think they have found healing with each other and they were truly meant to be together, atleast from everyone's perspective! (They have a composite yod involving Venus Mercury and Chiron) For better or for worse too, because I know certain things about my cousin that will never go away (her temper tandrums, her moodyness, her "on-the-surface" gracefulness to things). IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 16, 2015 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
In my opinion, Grand Kites are a good thing to have in composite - a sort of lifting off, big picture binding influence. To me, it represents a couple coming together to be more powerful than they would on their own - the relationship itself has a big goal. That can mean a lot of things, though. My sister and her husband have this formation in their composite, and I believe it shows in how they have transformed as individuals through their relationship (and most likely always will). They have many otherwise tough aspects but this, to me, shows that they are basically meant to be together this way.
I have the grand kite with my boyfriend, and I agree with this. Formation is Sun 9 Pisces 5H, Moon 10 Cancer 9H, Mars 10 Scorpio 1H. Moon is at the base opposite Neptune and Uranus. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I have the grand kite with my boyfriend, and I agree with this.
That's nice! How would you describe your grand kite with your boyfriend? Which planets are involved and in which signs/houses? IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 16, 2015 11:40 AM
I would describe it as being in a Utopian Vortex.  We can spend days just laying around and listening to music, talking about music, creating music, and barely leaving the apartment. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I would describe it as being in a Utopian Vortex. We can spend days just laying around and listening to music, talking about music, creating music, and barely leaving the apartment.
Interesting!!! My partner and I went to the same music school during college days, however back then we barely knew of each other. Hah. But yes, music. He creates music, I play music. He plays too, and alot more instruments than I do. I admire his musicianship, really. I couldn't ask for a more creative relationship with another creative mind. That's sweet! Very sweet of you guys IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 16, 2015 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
I couldn't ask for a more creative relationship with another creative mind.
Cool! How long have you been together? ^ That is exactly how I feel. It makes me feel so vulnerable in a way, because we just started dating a month or so ago.
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angel4845
Knowflake Posts: 2081
From: los angeles, ca, USA
Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 16, 2015 02:11 PM
Starry can you post your synastry and composite for me? Im very interested and curious about your relationship. I understand it you don't want to as it is something personal. ------------------
Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Starry can you post your synastry and composite for me? Im very interested and curious about your relationship. I understand it you don't want to as it is something personal.
Hi angel: Sure! I will post it but let me know once you have taken a look, I would like to remove it once you are done so let me know! This is composite:  IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 16, 2015 02:47 PM
Synastry:  IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 17, 2015 03:47 PM
I just wanted to post an example of a relationship with a grand kite that manifested pretty horribly. This person was abusive..  IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2015 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I just wanted to post an example of a relationship with a grand kite that manifested pretty horribly. This person was abusive..
They also have the rectangle thing going on (sorry I'm still a newbie at astrology). Could it be that it is related to synastry rather than composite if one of them was abusive? IP: Logged |
Starry~*
Knowflake Posts: 420
From: New York, USA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2015 09:22 AM
The moon in the composite chart seems to be receiving some pretty nice aspects atleast. The only thing that might be an issue to me is the Saturn Squaring Pluto and the Mars opposition..also, is that a Saturn/Pluto/Chiron T-Square? I cringed a bit when I saw it.IP: Logged |
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