posted December 16, 2015 12:48 PM            

But lo and behold, there are these things called "Parashara aspects" to save you!

Basically, they are the special, additional aspects that each planet has.

All planets will always aspect the opposite sign from itself, as a given rule.

Sun influences its own house, as well as its opposite house. The rest of the planets do the same.

But Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Rahu/Ketu (the Nodes) have additional aspects. They are the following:
Mars aspects 4th & 8th from where it's placed
Jupiter aspects 5th & 9th from where it's placed
Saturn aspects 3rd & 10th from where it's placed
Rahu/Ketu aspect 5th & 9th from where they're placed

Example: A's Moon is in B's 11th house
Moon always aspects 7th from where it's placed. So since Moon is in the 11th house, it will also aspect the 5th house, which would be interpreted the same way as having the Moon in 5th house!

Example 2: A's Mars in B's 1st house.
Mars would therefore also aspect B's 4th, 7th and 8th houses. These would be looked at the same way as A's Mars in B's 4th house, 7th house and 8th house.

Example 3: A's Jupiter in B's 3rd house.
Jupiter always aspects 5th, 7th and 9th from where it's placed. So counting from the 3rd house, A's Jupiter will also aspect B's 7th, 9th and 11th houses. These aspects would have the same energy as Jupiter in the 7th, 9th, 11th house.

Don't forget to apply these same aspects to the house rulers!

posted January 19, 2016 05:15 AM            

I think when using the whole sign method these aspects do say something very general about a person or a relationship (in synastry).

But… Tight orb degree aspects are waaaaaaaaay more powerful a connection to have with somebody, then whole sign aspects. My 11th house is Libra, and a person simply having a planet in Libra is nowhere near enough to say that it’s the same as having a planet in my 5th house (11th house is opposite the 5th). If that Libra planet were opposing a planet in my 5th with a tight degree aspect, then perhaps I’d say that person had a profound effect on my 5th house.

Actually an idea just came to mind regarding these whole sign aspects…

For example, if Mars aspects 4th & 8th from where it's placed… Perhaps we could apply some type of special significance to tight degree orb aspects that are 4 and 8 signs away from Mars.

If Mars were at 18 degrees of Aries and it squared a planet at 19 Cancer (4 sign aspect), then maybe there is something extra influential about this aspect, more so then with a regular square. Also if Mars at 18 Aries was quincunx a planet at 17 Scorpio, perhaps there is also something extra influential about this quincunx. The Aries/Scorpio quincunx involving Mars is likely especially powerful for this reason, despite the fact that a lot of astrologers overlook quincunxes.

And, in Vedic there is such a thing as a one-way aspect. That is an Aries Mars might be experiencing something extra significant about the Cancer square, and the Scorpio quincunx, but the Cancer and Scorpio planets will simply experience these aspects as no different that any other aspect they would be receiving.

For Jupiter there would be something extra significant about trines. Aspects to the 5th and 9th from itself are trine aspects. If you use tight orb trines then the effect is bound to be especially strong.

I think if you apply tight orb degree aspects to these whole sign rules you’ll probably find some fascinating results. Keeping in mind that the planet making the aspect (Mars aspecting 4th and 8th from itself) in synastry is likely to experience a stronger impact. While the person on the receiving end of the aspect may experience the aspect as a regular strength one. Or maybe I'm wrong in a assuming this. Perhaps because Mars is making one of it’s ‘special’ aspects it would be able to express itself very strongly towards the other person... And the other person in synastry may actually feel the Mars person’s energy with above average intencity (if they are 4 or 8 signs from Mars by degree).

posted January 19, 2016 08:44 AM            

Yes, I remember that thread. I guess only God/the universe knows which is the right zodiac lol. There are so many theories and claims out there.

The Vedic zodiac, including dashas (planetary time periods), and Brighu Nadi Jyotish techniques have been proven to be spot on for me, so that's what I trust and use.

You are right about one-way aspects, they're not always felt mutually, or similarly.
As an example: Rahu placing it's 9th house aspect on someone's Moon will probably make the Rahu person obsessed with the Moon. But Moon will be indifferent or due to its sensitivity, they might feel overwhelmed.

I also agree that tighter orbs will result in a more stronger attraction.

posted January 19, 2016 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
The method I follow uses tropical zodiac signs and sidereal nakshatras. So the planetary dashas stay the same regardless because the dasha time periods are based on your nakshatra rulers.

I was thinking I'd use the tropical zodiac, and degree specific connections for these aspects. But also keep in mind that they are whole sign aspects. So Mars would throw a slight flavor onto the entire signs 4th and 8th from itself, and this flavor would become most intense with aspects that have a tight orb. Wide orb aspects would feel like background noise that we hardly pay attention to. Tight orb aspects feel like someone suddenly turned up our stereo real loud, and we get jolted awake and can't ignore the song that's being played.

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Hm, but when I used Ernst Wilhelm's birth chart calculator on http://vaultoftheheavens.com , it gave me different dashas. It put my Mahadasha as Saturn, whereas other Vedic chart calculators (including KRS's report) gave me a Jupiter mahadasha and that's what makes sense to me.
Maybe Ernst uses a different dasha calculation method, I don't know.

posted January 19, 2016 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I guess that means that there are some one sided aspects from Mr Sag to me then.

his Mars - 4th- my Rahu (1 degree)
his Jupiter - 5th - my Venus (4 degrees)
his Rahu - 5th - my Venus (4 degrees)
his Ketu - 9th - my Uranus (0 degrees)

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Hi Ceri,

Do your planets make any one-sides aspects to Mr. Sag's chart? If so, can you feel them?

And how do you feel about planetary aspects on houses in synastry? Have you ever felt someone's planets in your 11th house activating your 5th house, or the likes?

posted January 19, 2016 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Neptunian Venus:
Hm, but when I used Ernst Wilhelm's birth chart calculator on http://vaultoftheheavens.com , it gave me different dashas. It put my Mahadasha as Saturn, whereas other Vedic chart calculators (including KRS's report) gave me a Jupiter mahadasha and that's what makes sense to me.
Maybe Ernst uses a different dasha calculation method, I don't know.

I still want to stick to the Vedic zodiac though I've become too emotionally attached to it lol.

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This is because Ernest Wilhelm has started to use a different method for calculating nakshatras. Something to do with spacing them around Earth's equator rather then against the ecliptic. He decided to do this because the theory makes more sense to him. I'm not sold on the different method for nakshatra calculation though. And Ernest Wilhelm is not the only astrologer using the tropical zodiac. Basically I've adopted a method of using regular nakshatra calculation and the tropical zodiac.

In India there's actually supposed to be a big celebration (Sankranti) when at the winter solstice the Sun changes direction and starts moving northward. The winter solstice is always at zero degrees tropical Capricorn. But because the sidereal method of calculating signs has become so entrenched in society, the celebration has moved further and further away from the actual solstice its supposed to be celebrating. It's now taking place at zero degrees of sidereal Capricorn... Which is 3 weeks away from the solstice now. This doesn't make sense because the celebration is meant to take place when the Sun changes direction and starts heading north. It is a scientific astronomical fact that the Sun always turns and starts heading north at zero tropical Capricorn. The celebration is now out of sync with the event it's meant to be celebrating.

posted January 19, 2016 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
This is because Ernest Wilhelm has started to use a different method for calculating nakshatras. Something to do with spacing them around Earth's equator rather then against the ecliptic. He decided to do this because the theory makes more sense to him. I'm not sold on the different method for nakshatra calculation though. And Ernest Wilhelm is not the only astrologer using the tropical zodiac. Basically I've adopted a method of using regular nakshatra calculation and the tropical zodiac.

In India there's actually supposed to be a big celebration (Sankranti) when at the winter solstice the Sun changes direction and starts moving northward. The winter solstice is always at zero degrees tropical Capricorn. But because the sidereal method of calculating signs has become so entrenched in society, the celebration has moved further and further away from the actual solstice its supposed to be celebrating. It's now taking place at zero degrees of sidereal Capricorn... Which is 3 weeks away from the solstice now. This doesn't make sense because the celebration is meant to take place when the Sun changes direction and starts heading north. It is a scientific astronomical fact that the Sun always turns and starts heading north at zero tropical Capricorn. The celebration is now out of sync with the event it's meant to be celebrating.

This was noted by Scholars and in 1956 a law was passed saying that the celebration should be held at zero degrees of tropical Capricorn and not sidereal Capricorn, because this is when the Sun truly starts moving north. It would follow then that the tropical zodiac is what astrologers are meant to be using, as astrology is used to calculate when the celebration is to take place. This is an actual law, but it's not being enforced by the Indian government because the sidereal zodiac has become tradition now (even if it was a mistake). People in India are so used to using it that it becomes very difficult to enact societal change. I guess a lot of people don't like the identity crisis that seems to come about when they find out the truth of things.

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Wow. That makes a lot of sense.

Lol I first experienced an identity crisis when I discovered Jyotish and had to learn to "convert" my mind to my Vedic chart from Western.
I don't want to have to go through that again!
But then again it was also a Eureka moment for me and I found out so much more about myself through my Vedic chart than I would have with Western.

However, I am all about the truth, and I will accept it if I find that it resonates.

What house system do you personally use?
I read companus is supposed to be more accurate (according to Lada Duncheva) because it uses space, not time.

posted January 20, 2016 12:05 AM            

Sun is supposed to be the Karka (significator) of career too right, so I don't see Virgo Sun fitting there for me – apart from my work being very detail oriented.

In sidereal, I'm a Leo Sun.
I'm in a field that is highly creative, artistic and has to do with the performing arts.

posted January 20, 2016 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Neptunian Venus:
I still don't feel like a Western Virgo Sun though :P

Sun is supposed to be the Karka (significator) of career too right, so I don't see Virgo Sun fitting there for me – apart from my work being very detail oriented.

In sidereal, I'm a Leo Sun.
I'm in a field that is highly creative, artistic and has to do with the performing arts.

In both western and Vedic my Sun is in the 2nd house though, which is a Venus house. So I can see where that fits in.

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posted January 20, 2016 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Apart from the Sun though, do you have other planets in Leo? Or even in just fire signs?

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In Vedic I have Uranus & Neptune in Sag tightly squaring my Venus in Libra.
Also, Ketu in Aries in my 10th house.

posted January 20, 2016 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ddon`t underestimate Virgos though.
Somehow it`s all a matter of perspective anyway.

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posted January 20, 2016 02:17 AM            

My & Hubby to be:
His Mars 4th-aspect my Uranus 5°
His Saturn 10th-aspect my Pluto 0°
His Rahu 9th-aspect my ASC 5°
His Jupiter 9th-aspect my Anti-Vertex 1°
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My Jupiter 9th-aspect his IC 2°
My Rahu 9th-aspect his IC 4°
My Ketu 9th-aspect his Uranus 0°
My Ketu 9th-aspect his Neptune 0°

Me & Cancer friend:
His Mars 8th-aspect my MC 4°
His Jupiter 9th-aspect my ASC 4°
His Saturn 10th-aspect my Vertex 2°
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My Jupiter 5th-aspect his Vertex 0°
My Jupiter 9th-aspect his Mercury 3°
My Jupiter 9th-aspect his Venus 5°
My Saturn 10th-aspect his Jupiter 3°
My Rahu 5th-aspect his DESC 4°