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Topic: Todd What About This Composite?
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Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 22, 2015 04:21 PM
I hope you can get onto the site and respond. thanks in advance if you can! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 22, 2015 05:38 PM
I see you have many composites to discuss. Then maybe it's time for the first rule about composites: they are never accurate without the synastry. Yes, we can tell many things about the potential in a relationship just by looking at the composite. But we can never place that potential in the context of the natals and the synastry, without them, in order to launch predictions. Let's give a classical example: Uranus conj the angles, or Uranus in hard aspect with the Sun. The interpretation of how this aspect evolves is entirely different for Uranians and non-Uranians. For some, it is an on and off, breakup vibe, for the others, the perfect thing making them stay. 2 classical examples of Uranian composites: Brad Pitt and Angelina, Goldie Hawn and Russel.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 22, 2015 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I see you have many composites to discuss. Then maybe it's time for the first rule about composites: they are never accurate without the synastry. Yes, we can tell many things about the potential in a relationship just by looking at the composite. But we can never place that potential in the context of the natals and the synastry, without them, in order to launch predictions. Let's give a classical example: Uranus conj the angles, or Uranus in hard aspect with the Sun. The interpretation of how this aspect evolves is entirely different for Uranians and non-Uranians. For some, it is an on and off, breakup vibe, for the others, the perfect thing making them stay. 2 classical examples of Uranian composites: Brad Pitt and Angelina, Goldie Hawn and Russel.
I know about composites and synastry I'm not new to astrology. I just want Todd's take on things, and i don't want to post the synastry.
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Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 22, 2015 11:11 PM
Bump. I want to add Todd that this is a connected to an earlier composite you read for me, i just "progressed" it to see where things are at currently.IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 01:47 AM
*bump*IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 03:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: I know about composites and synastry I'm not new to astrology. I just want Todd's take on things, and i don't want to post the synastry.
If you're going to answer like this, then maybe you should find a way to contact Todd personally, rather than flooding this forum with threads with your composites, where things can't be discussed by others. It's rude what you said, and unlike this forum, which is not focused on a private interaction between two people only. It's for a public, interactive discussion. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 1553 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 03:52 AM
What LeeLoo has offered you, Spongebob, is the gift of her vast knowledge and experience. If you are looking for quick interpretations then I agree this is not the forum. Personal Readings is its own section here on LL and if you aren't at least open to hearing and receiving the gifts you're offered by extremely competent astrologers such as LeeLoo you're in the wrong place and you're really, really missing out. Really. This is a chance to deepen your knowledge. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 03:59 AM
Thank you, Yun Point is, this is not a private chat, people can chime in every thread, even when addressed to someone, if they have an idea.I also think, Spongebob, you should have mentioned to Todd that this it a progressed, it's important, analyzing progressed composites also happens in comparison with the natal, and everything else I mentioned. If you want a correct assessment, you avoid discussing them out of context. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 04:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: If you're going to answer like this, then maybe you should find a way to contact Todd personally, rather than flooding this forum with threads with your composites, where things can't be discussed by others.It's rude what you said, and unlike this forum, which is not focused on a private interaction between two people only. It's for a public, interactive discussion.
You tried to give me an explanation on something i already knew, and i told you that. I don't really see anything hostile about that, and that wasn't my intent. I don't have a means to contact Todd privately, we cant send private messages here. Im not the only person who has ever made a thread here specifically asking for a particular member to respond either and as far as i know it isn't against the rules to do so. Grotto - I've been studying astrology since my teens and I'm 34 now. I honestly don't need a primer on the basics. IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 04:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Thank you, Yun Point is, this is not a private chat, people can chime in every thread, even when addressed to someone, if they have an idea.I also think, Spongebob, you should have mentioned to Todd that this it a progressed, it's important, analyzing progressed composites also happens in comparison with the natal, and everything else I mentioned. If you want a correct assessment, you avoid discussing them out of context.
I didn't say no one else could chime in, but i am particularly interested in Todd's take on things.
I also mentioned in my post that its a progressed chart when i posted it. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 04:05 AM
Sorry, but you have not acquired the basics if you are requesting a composite analysis outside the synastry. For it is worthless, and can't be done correctly. This is my honest opinion. But of course you may believe that you do.Posting repeated requests, it's like your third or fourth composite request in a short time, under the form of a personal message, floods the forum, responding how you did, as if this is just between you and Todd is rude and antagonistic with this forum. It may also be a burden to him, just because someone is giving you a free profile, it doesn't mean you have to come back again and again, it's overbearing and rude. Seeing half of the threads on the first page made of personal requests, just because someone is offering a free profile, is annoying for the forum as a whole. Please find a way to connect with Todd in private. This forum is not just about your issues. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 04:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: I didn't say no one else could chime in, but i am particularly interested in Todd's take on things.I also mentioned in my post that its a progressed chart when i posted it.
No, there is no mentioning in the OP this is a progressed chart. And you basically told me to take off, for you only want one opinion. IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 04:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: No, there is no mentioning in the OP this is a progressed chart.And you basically told me to take off, for you only want one opinion.
Scroll down, i made that clear in the second or third post. I didn't tell you to do anything. I said i wanted to hear Todd's take. IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 04:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Sorry, but you have not acquired the basics if you are requesting a composite analysis outside the synastry. For it is worthless, and can't be done correctly. This is my honest opinion. But of course you may believe that you do.Posting repeated requests, it's like your third or fourth composite request in a short time, under the form of a personal message, floods the forum, responding how you did, as if this is just between you and Todd is rude and antagonistic with this forum. It may also be a burden to him, just because someone is giving you a free profile, it doesn't mean you have to come back again and again, it's overbearing and rude. Seeing half of the threads on the first page made of personal requests, just because someone is offering a free profile, is annoying for the forum as a whole. Please find a way to connect with Todd in private. This forum is not just about your issues.
Everybody has their own astrological opinions, methods and techniques. I find Todd's valuable, and my knowledge base is solid enough that i feel confident about his method.
Its also my understanding that flooding a board is when you post multiple threads back to back in the same day, not over the course of a week or more. Todd is a fairly candid man, if he found my posts a burden i have no real doubt that he'd make that clear. again, many members here specifically title their threads to get certain members to come in and answer their questions, this isn't unique to me. Im not really sure what the problem is here. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 04:41 AM
You mentioned it is a progressed after an opinion was given. You should mention this in the OP, before people give their opinion.No, flooding a forum is posting multiple threads, daily, weekly, monthly, it doesn't matter, especially with personal issues, rather than threads that are of interest to everyone, where astrological data and ideas can be debated, discussed. While the discussions here are based on personal charts, you requesting repeatedly personal profiles for you from one person only is not in the spirit of the Interpersonal forum, if it's over the top, as it is now. There is a forum called Personal Readings where you can make many @ threads, if you wish. Restricting other members to comment here, not accepting a debate on the charts, is outside the spirit here too. Personally, I dislike when people expect to be put to their place, and until then, they push and push. You don't need for him to tell you it is unnatural to request a second and third free profile after they just gave you one, it's basic manners. And as I said, I perceived your response to me as rude, as if you are telling me you are interested in Todd's opinion only. What are you going to do about that? IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 05:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: You mentioned it is a progressed after an opinion was given. You should mention this in the OP, before people give their opinion.No, flooding a forum is posting multiple threads, daily, weekly, monthly, it doesn't matter, especially with personal issues, rather than threads that are of interest to everyone, where astrological data and ideas can be debated, discussed. While the discussions here are based on personal charts, you requesting repeatedly personal profiles for you from one person only is not in the spirit of the Interpersonal forum, if it's over the top, as it is now. There is a forum called Personal Readings where you can make many @ threads, if you wish. Restricting other members to comment here, not accepting a debate on the charts, is outside the spirit here too. And as I said, I perceived your response to me as rude, as if you are telling me you are interested in Todd's opinion only. What are you going to do about that?
I already responded to all these statements above, I'm not really sure what you want me to say, or what you want out of this exactly.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 05:05 AM
Nothing. I already have a clear image of you with this last post.IP: Logged |
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 122 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 06:13 AM
hey spongebob! have a nice day and happy holidays!(i hope todd will save your thread and answer your questions)
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Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 06:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by VirgoPILL: hey spongebob! have a nice day and happy holidays!
Thanks! Happy Holidays to you also!
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CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 08:04 AM
LeeLoo2014, I don't see any problem here. I too asked Todd to have a look at my composite earlier. And I too know that composites shouldn't be evaluated in isolation but we are simply curious. Nothing is wrong with that. Spongebob just wanted Todd's reading which is exactly what he said to you. What's rude about that? You are being oversensitive. You said he is flooding the forum by frequent posts asking for personal readings. Yes, there is a Private Readings section of the forum. But how many people post there? Very few. I was told to go there with my Solar Chart reading request. I did. Got no replies. Then the next day I see a senior member Ceridwen posting his Solar Chart reading request in the Interpersonal Astrology forum. So what? We are all flooding Look, Aubyanne's thread with title 'Todd, let's call a truce. I'd like to see what you can do. ' Also flooding this forum? )) I don't think so. Just because you don't like seeing it does not mean that someone shouldn't post what interests them, IMHO. If you are advising Spongebob to privately contact Todd, shouldn't you be first giving advice to this forum creators to facilitate private messaging. You know very well that we can't contact each other privately here. And that's the only reason we do it on this forum. And LeeLoo2014, people respect you here and appreciate your knowledge but you sometimes tend to 'lecture'. That's just what I noticed. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23271 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 23, 2015 10:37 AM
Whatever your opinion of each other, keep the tone respectfully, all of you. -------------------------------------for the record. 1. Leeloo is one of the most knowledgeable astrologers around here, who definitely knows her stuff. 2. Astrologers (professional or not) are often disagreeing on certain things. We tend to be an opinionated bunch here, as such, I have to agree with Leeloo, while I admire Todd`s skills in interpreting composites on their own, I also think they need to be related back to the natals. The natal is always the point of reference. 3. This is a public forum. Of course you can express your wish for a certain user answering you, but since this is a public place, everyone can have their say, if you like it or not. 4. Yes, I have posted my solar return here, and as you may have noticed, noone replied. Rightfully so probably, as it did not belong in this section anyway. Or maybe it did, I thought it did because of the way I framed the question (which was interpersonally related).
5. And yes, Spongebob, you are flooding the forum with requests for reading different composites. Todd has been very generous in interpreting pretty much any composite posted here (and personally I love reading his interpretations); his generosity will probably make people becoming a little too demanding. However that is not my place to say. He can handle that well on his own and will state if t is getting too much. I cannot speak on his behalf, he is his own person. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 1553 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 23, 2015 02:28 PM
For the record? I appreciate being lectured. I have learned so much here. The ego struggles and bucking against people who are generously sharing their knowledge is really questionable. I understand impatience with what sounds like high-falutin' rhetoric, but it would be cool if people could just appreciate everyone equally for their unique gifts and not pedestalize certain people based on their generosity/availability/wisdom/perceived victimhood. Devaluing any member's input and making personal judgments and attacks is quite rude and untoward. There is disagreement and there's blatant disrespect and it's important to know the difference. Personally I've noticed LeeLoo has been absent from the boards this past while and it is a huge loss for this community. People keep defending todd against perceived attacks or slights which might drive him away and forgetting or shushing this other extremely important and gifted and generous astrologer.. it's sad.. i appreciate the distinctive approach todd takes but I personally do things very differently also. I think that trying to silence somebody's opinion based on perceived "talking-down-to"--equates to a dangerous kind of pride. We can learn to be humble enough to accept instruction or we can buck against any offer of knowledge as being authoritative... but that's rather immature... IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 23, 2015 04:55 PM
None of this matters anymore. Ive already moved ofer to another board for these purposes so its all a moot point. Certainly, everyone is fully entitled to believe whatever they like about the events that happened here, my motivations, etc, however incorrect.Have a good day. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17100 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 26, 2015 05:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: LeeLoo2014, I don't see any problem here. I too asked Todd to have a look at my composite earlier. And I too know that composites shouldn't be evaluated in isolation but we are simply curious. Nothing is wrong with that. Spongebob just wanted Todd's reading which is exactly what he said to you. What's rude about that? You are being oversensitive. You said he is flooding the forum by frequent posts asking for personal readings. Yes, there is a Private Readings section of the forum. But how many people post there? Very few. I was told to go there with my Solar Chart reading request. I did. Got no replies. Then the next day I see a senior member Ceridwen posting his Solar Chart reading request in the Interpersonal Astrology forum. So what? We are all flooding Look, Aubyanne's thread with title 'Todd, let's call a truce. I'd like to see what you can do. ' Also flooding this forum? )) I don't think so. Just because you don't like seeing it does not mean that someone shouldn't post what interests them, IMHO. If you are advising Spongebob to privately contact Todd, shouldn't you be first giving advice to this forum creators to facilitate private messaging. You know very well that we can't contact each other privately here. And that's the only reason we do it on this forum. And LeeLoo2014, people respect you here and appreciate your knowledge but you sometimes tend to 'lecture'. That's just what I noticed.
I don't appreciate it when people ask for advice and then complain about "lecturing". This is what happens when you're asking for advice, you will also get lectured at some point, by someone. True advice also includes saying something is wrong, when you think it is. Advising means guiding, and those in the habit of answering to advice requests, are doing it because they believe in this guidance, in showing a direction, which includes pointing out the wrong one too, when necessary. Then you do what you want with the opinion, discard it, get inspired, whatever. Just don't tell me what kind of advice I should give or not, it's gonna be the one I see fit. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted December 26, 2015 09:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I don't appreciate it when people ask for advice and then complain about "lecturing". This is what happens when you're asking for advice, you will also get lectured at some point, by someone.
I respectfully disagree. Advice is not the same as 'lecturing' and in my opinion lecturing someone is only appropriate in places where it's supposed to happen - at a lecture. So just because it Happens does not make it right! At least I don't appreciate it. It might be ok coming from people who know me we well and are close to me but not from someone on a forum. Agree with the rest you said about giving somebody advice. IP: Logged | |