Lindaland
  Interpersonal Astrology
  Karmic Synastry?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Karmic Synastry?
ikja
Knowflake

Posts: 2286
From: The Valley of Restoration
Registered: Oct 2014

posted December 28, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just wondering what you thought about the synastry and composite:
Do either/or have long term relationship potential?
or is there simply karma to clear?


Thanks in advance xxx

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 60601
From: Saturn next to Charmaine
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 29, 2015 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

yungang_grotto
Knowflake

Posts: 1564
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014

posted December 29, 2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... the double whammy Sun-Venus square stands out. There are going to be very strong feelings of attraction but a sense of embattledness, like... I like you SO much but arrgh, why do you have to be like that? Type deal. But I like the Moon-Venus opposition very much for softening this... and from my limited personal experience so far I can highly recommend the MC/IC conjunction. It's clear that this is a powerful connection which is deeply felt and attuned to by both parties.

Node square Saturn can be binding in a way but it is very intense and tumultuous. I've found that it indicates a relationship which continues to have an impact and compels the individuals to interact at least psychically over many years, whether they are in one another's physical presence or not. There is also a Node Pluto square in the synastry which reinforces the theme of intensity and karma.

Mercury opposite Saturn double whammy is going to be very intense. On one side is the Moon Mercury square and on the other the Moon Mercury trine. In my experience one trine to the moon in a fraught Mercury-Satutn-Moin mash up only serves to make one party more vulnerable emotionally in the midst of the arguments and misunderstandings which are likely to arise here. There CAN be a great deal of respect with the Mercury Saturn opposition but it can also indicate diametrically opposed and very stubborn viewpoints... depends on emotional maturity of the individuals.

Mars square Mars indicates a great deal of energy in the relationship. You have an unlimited capacity to generate friction, and you are likely to severely grate on one another's nerves.. this im combination with the Sun Venus squares and Mercury Saturn oppositions makes for a very highly charged relationship... ambivalence could be a key word here.

So that's the synastry. It's nice to see the Sun Venus conjunction in the composite and the general lightness of the planet Venus; it kind of indicates that the blending of the Sun-Venus energies is going to wind up harmonious. Remember to be loving and connect with your metta, loving kindness, and the relationship will go more smoothly.

The moon, Mercury and Chiron opposing Uranus and Saturn tells a kind of fraught story. There's a very strong compulsion to relate, to discuss, to work through painful experiences. This can take the form of sudden upheaval and transformative emotional catharsis. Whether long term or not a lot of self awareness could potentially be generated through this relationship and learning is guaranteed. You might push one another's buttons and wind up in situations which feel very difficult and challenging but which ultimately will be transformative, nice aspect to Pluto smooths things out a bit.

Moon somewhat widely quincunx Juno in the composite means that there's a feeling like that Juno kind of union doesn't mesh naturally; perhaps it creates nervous energy in the heart of the relationship to try to be together in a traditional marriagecontext. Will need to look more closely at natal juno stuff to know how that will be felt, really. Juno is so personal...

Mars quincunx Venus can create attraction but again some confusion as to the intimate relations. One says stop one says go, but both are misinterpreted kind of thing. Altogether my sense is of two people who have come together to work through things and that the sexual and romantic aspects of the relationship act more as a vehicle for other experiences and learning than as the central facet of the relationship. This is in keeping with the Saturn-Nodes square in the synastry...

IP: Logged

thegrinning_cat
Knowflake

Posts: 147
From:
Registered: Jun 2015

posted December 29, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thegrinning_cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You do such great readings, yungang!

I learned so much and I feel your Venus in Libra in the writing!

IP: Logged

ikja
Knowflake

Posts: 2286
From: The Valley of Restoration
Registered: Oct 2014

posted December 29, 2015 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firstly YG_G, thank you for taking a look at this. This relationship has been weighing on my mind and I so want to understand it so that I can move on and/or so that I am better equipped to deal with the energy next time around. I really appreciate your help. I will now comment lol

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Hmmm... the double whammy Sun-Venus square stands out. There are going to be very strong feelings of attraction but a sense of embattledness, like... I like you SO much but arrgh, why do you have to be like that? Type deal.

I definitely feel like this! Not sure if he does, but I do really like him, but I think it's actually the way he expresses his "love" and "affection" that annoy me. It doesn't rub my ego the right way; perhaps that the true definition of the Sun-Venus square and perhaps, he may even think the same way. The way I show my feelings and affection aren't "typical" for him lol

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
But I like the Moon-Venus opposition very much for softening this... and from my limited personal experience so far I can highly recommend the MC/IC conjunction. It's clear that this is a powerful connection which is deeply felt and attuned to by both parties.

We've gone back and forth so much. I do think that he is powerfully connected to me, for some reason. Not sure if it is the MC/IC, but it's something and I do think that he is fascinated by my emotions. Hence the Moon-Venus boomerang effect lol.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Node square Saturn can be binding in a way but it is very intense and tumultuous. I've found that it indicates a relationship which continues to have an impact and compels the individuals to interact at least psychically over many years, whether they are in one another's physical presence or not.

Funnily enough, we've stopped speaking, but I still FEEL him for some reason. Like, I can't seem to forget him. Even though I would love to! Surprise, Surprise, it is MY node! lol

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
There is also a Node Pluto square in the synastry which reinforces the theme of intensity and karma.

Our relationship feels incredibly Plutonian. That's his Pluto that is square my Node (I really don't stand a chance lol) I think we even have Sun square Pluto too. I feel like I want to explore things with him, but it makes me scared - like I will come undone and so vulnerable.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Mercury opposite Saturn double whammy is going to be very intense. On one side is the Moon Mercury square and on the other the Moon Mercury trine. In my experience one trine to the moon in a fraught Mercury-Satutn-Moin mash up only serves to make one party more vulnerable emotionally in the midst of the arguments and misunderstandings which are likely to arise here. There CAN be a great deal of respect with the Mercury Saturn opposition but it can also indicate diametrically opposed and very stubborn viewpoints... depends on emotional maturity of the individuals.

The emotionally vulnerable person is me (that's my Moon to his Mercury) I think that he is somewhat emotionally immature (if I am completely honest). I feel like sometimes he doesn't know how to be sympathetic or meet me halfway.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Mars square Mars indicates a great deal of energy in the relationship. You have an unlimited capacity to generate friction, and you are likely to severely grate on one another's nerves.. this im combination with the Sun Venus squares and Mercury Saturn oppositions makes for a very highly charged relationship... ambivalence could be a key word here.

You've hit the nail on the head. We have butted heads SO many times! Definitely highly charged, to an extent, I think he finds our disagreements easier to deal with. I think it's because I have a Gemini Sun and Mercury in Gemini; so understand is important for him. Not so much for him. Him being a Cancer rising, I guess, he just needs to feel (?). I give him that, because I am quite passionate; but the his inability to communicate effectively sometimes annoys me.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
So that's the synastry. It's nice to see the Sun Venus conjunction in the composite and the general lightness of the planet Venus; it kind of indicates that the blending of the Sun-Venus energies is going to wind up harmonious. Remember to be loving and connect with your metta, loving kindness, and the relationship will go more smoothly.

I do try!!!! Although easier typed that done

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The moon, Mercury and Chiron opposing Uranus and Saturn tells a kind of fraught story. There's a very strong compulsion to relate, to discuss, to work through painful experiences. This can take the form of sudden upheaval and transformative emotional catharsis. Whether long term or not a lot of self awareness could potentially be generated through this relationship and learning is guaranteed.

Funnily enough, we both have Moon in hard aspect to Uranus natally and I find that rather amusing. As said above, we do try our best to understand each other (well I do) and I always wonder why. Perhaps this goes some way to explaining. I bring more difficult experiences to the table, I think. He is more composed; but I get the feeling that he is hiding something dark.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
You might push one another's buttons and wind up in situations which feel very difficult and challenging but which ultimately will be transformative, nice aspect to Pluto smooths things out a bit.

I feel what you are saying - even now! I have given him a choice and at present, I am just waiting for him to make it. It's definitely a different way for me to operate because I am someone who lets a lot of things slide before I give up Venus/Pluto; but for some reason... he urges me to handle things differently.

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Altogether my sense is of two people who have come together to work through things and that the sexual and romantic aspects of the relationship act more as a vehicle for other experiences and learning than as the central facet of the relationship. This is in keeping with the Saturn-Nodes square in the synastry...

He came back into my life after 10 years by accident. I'm not too sure if our story is finished yet, but I have definitely learned a lot from him. Whether he has, that is another story. I do get the feeling that I am supposed to show him how to be more loving/consistent. His Saturn in 5th house suggests he moves with caution; and I think I challenge that!

I really appreciate your comments... So, definitely KARMIC then lol

IP: Logged

yungang_grotto
Knowflake

Posts: 1564
From: red river valley
Registered: Mar 2014

posted December 29, 2015 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for taking the time to confirm and reflect Glad to hear things resonated for you... yes the Sun-Venus can be ego conflict certainly. Not surprised to hear you're not speaking right now; the Mercury Saturn opposition double whammy would contribute but really the Saturn-Node thing is the clincher on that kind of situation. A charged and intense state of incommunicado... I have this aspect with my daughter's father. I know it well!

Yes, as the moon in a configuration similar to this in the past I also was under the impression that the other person was somehow immature in terms of empathy (that's sort of what you said hey?). It is really painful when people don't realize how it hurts to open your heart and then get walked on. The moon trine facilitates the opening. Can be really harsh. It's good to stay open... elsewhere Distance from this thing is good for you.

IP: Logged

ScorpieScorp
Knowflake

Posts: 590
From: USA
Registered: Aug 2013

posted December 30, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
You do such great readings, yungang!

I learned so much and I feel your Venus in Libra in the writing!


Agreed! Great job yungang! I learned a lot from how you explained this.

IP: Logged

Aubyanne
Moderator

Posts: 6345
From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014

posted December 30, 2015 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely some karmic debts here on both sides.

IP: Logged

ikja
Knowflake

Posts: 2286
From: The Valley of Restoration
Registered: Oct 2014

posted December 30, 2015 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your comments everyone.
Your inputs bring me great comfort - finally getting my head around this connection xxx

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2000-2015

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a