posted December 30, 2015 01:39 PM            

Which one is stronger? What effect is each girl having on him?

posted December 30, 2015 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I am studying several charts right now--where one person has strong Venus/Pluto (DW) aspects with one girl, and strong Mars/Pluto (DW) with another girl.

Which one is stronger? What effect is each girl having on him?

Also--do Venus/Pluto aspects (DW) at 5 and 6 orb significant? If so, will it be felt like a normal tight Venus/Pluto because of the DW?

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they are both strong. But also very different and similar in a way.

between 5-6 orb is significant however it is still not tight enough in my opinion to say that this type of aspect can not be ignored, this aspect at 5-6 orb is not so much in each other's face UNLESS there is a orb between 0-3 degree orb then this aspect will be felt very intensely.

To be honest, we have to look at the whole natal charts and compare it through synastry to see if this aspect is really taking a lot of influence between both people.

is there at least an aspect between 0-3 degree orb in there? cause if not then this aspect will be felt but it won't be so much like 'in your face" felt. it will have an ambient feeling. I'd be curious if this aspect is influencing any points in the composite or progressed composite.

posted December 30, 2015 03:49 PM            

That's not to say Mars/Pluto can't be loving too - we have to see the whole chart/s for that. If you also have some nice Moon or Venus aspects to the mix - it's a win-win on all fronts.

If not, however, Mars/Pluto has enough sexual chemistry to stay in a strictly physical relationship, even after the actual relationship has died down (or even when a relationship doesn't exist in the first place).

Venus/Pluto is deep, transforming love. Pluto intensifies whatever it touches. Both are intrigued by one other.

posted December 30, 2015 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:

is there at least an aspect between 0-3 degree orb in there?

I'd be curious if this aspect is influencing any points in the composite or progressed composite.

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For the DW Venus/Pluto Synastry--they have a Venus Square Pluto DW at 0 and 2. They also have other wide Mars/Pluto (9 Square and 0 Sequiquadrate), 6 Orb Trines to the Sun, Moon, Mercury. Semi square little past 2 to the Sun (so that would be a DW, though wide on both fronts)

In the Composite, there is a Venus conjunctPluto at 2, and Moon inconjunct Pluto at 1.

For the DW Mars/Pluto--they have a Trine Orb little past 3, and Square little past 1. There is also DW Venus/Pluto, Square at 5, and Conjunction at 6. DW Moon/Pluto, inconjunct little past2, and semisextile closer to 3.

posted December 30, 2015 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Both are 'strong' in that they are intense. Venus/Pluto is more of a love-based bond and Mars/Pluto is more..well, you know.

That's not to say Mars/Pluto can't be loving too - we have to see the whole chart/s for that. If you also have some nice Moon or Venus aspects to the mix - it's a win-win on all fronts.

If not, however, Mars/Pluto has enough sexual chemistry to stay in a strictly physical relationship, even after the actual relationship has died down (or even when a relationship doesn't exist in the first place).

Venus/Pluto is deep, transforming love. Pluto intensifies whatever it touches. Both are intrigued by one other.

Venus/Pluto: Aphrodite meets Hades.
Mars/Pluto: Mr meets Mrs Smith ( )

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Men are more physical (as a basic stereotype)--so would the Mars/Pluto hit him more than the Venus?

posted December 31, 2015 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
...Mars Pluto is between two masculine planets which doesn't mean attraction.

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posted December 31, 2015 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Seems it'd be that way, but, it's completely counterintuitive that it's not.

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posted December 31, 2015 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Can you explain that more?

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I completely get athene's point.

If we're looking at classic interpretation theory, there are general attributes to each: VENUS and MOON are feminine, MARS and SUN masculine in nature; MERCURY and URANUS are unisex / neutral / asexual.

Thing is, using these principles, we'd say that sexual attraction is only possible between feminine and masculine-oriented planets. Works in theory.

Yet, that's not what we see in practise.

While VENUS and the MOON may not be sexual attraction, they're classic for love, romance, or comfort. One's emotional nature and the other's aesthetic are involved here. Conversely, SUN and MARS are also classical attractors -- even if they're both 'male planets'.

What about SUN and VENUS? We'd think that's a sexual attraction link. Yet, we find it much more common in friendship. Yet, MARS and SUN are a major sexual attraction aspect.

What's going on?

posted December 31, 2015 01:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Mars/Pluto: Mr meets Mrs Smith ( )

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HAH! Too true!

posted December 31, 2015 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Men are more physical (as a basic stereotype)--so would the Mars/Pluto hit him more than the Venus?

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Unless his moon/venus have some aspects with the Mars/Pluto lady,

Mars/Pluto will be the one he wants to *do* (ahem, excuse the crudeness)
and Venus/Pluto will be the one he pines after.

posted December 31, 2015 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
For the DW Venus/Pluto Synastry--they have a Venus Square Pluto DW at 0 and 2.

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okay awesome! then i can say that this influence is intense. especially at 2 orb.

"They also have other wide Mars/Pluto (9 Square and 0 Sequiquadrate), 6 Orb Trines to the Sun, Moon, Mercury. Semi square little past 2 to the Sun (so that would be a DW, though wide on both fronts)" yes i understand, i feel the 9 degree orb square is way too wide and won't be felt at all however they are square by sign so there is something felt there but without this aspect being tight this won't take so much influence unless its in the composite or something or this person has this natally they may feel this kind of aspect being influential but not that forceful you know what i mean.

"In the Composite, there is a Venus conjunctPluto at 2, and Moon inconjunct Pluto at 1." WOOOOOOWWWW that's amazing. I'm jealous......good for them lol this is defently going to influence the relationship be also curious if this is aspecting anything between there natal charts or the midpoint or any other asteroids possibly.

"For the DW Mars/Pluto--they have a Trine Orb little past 3, and Square little past 1. There is also DW Venus/Pluto, Square at 5, and Conjunction at 6. DW Moon/Pluto, inconjunct little past2, and semisextile closer to 3." I'm liking the DW trine of mars/pluto even though its a little passed 3 i would still count it only because its a DW.

"In the composite there is a Moon/Pluto sextile at 3, and Venus/Pluto semi square at 0.[/B][/QUOTE]wooooowwwww nice!!

posted December 31, 2015 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
okay awesome! then i can say that this influence is intense. especially at 2 orb.

"They also have other wide Mars/Pluto (9 Square and 0 Sequiquadrate), 6 Orb Trines to the Sun, Moon, Mercury. Semi square little past 2 to the Sun (so that would be a DW, though wide on both fronts)" yes i understand, i feel the 9 degree orb square is way too wide and won't be felt at all however they are square by sign so there is something felt there but without this aspect being tight this won't take so much influence unless its in the composite or something or this person has this natally they may feel this kind of aspect being influential but not that forceful you know what i mean.

"In the Composite, there is a Venus conjunctPluto at 2, and Moon inconjunct Pluto at 1." WOOOOOOWWWW that's amazing. I'm jealous......good for them lol this is defently going to influence the relationship be also curious if this is aspecting anything between there natal charts or the midpoint or any other asteroids possibly.

"For the DW Mars/Pluto--they have a Trine Orb little past 3, and Square little past 1. There is also DW Venus/Pluto, Square at 5, and Conjunction at 6. DW Moon/Pluto, inconjunct little past2, and semisextile closer to 3." I'm liking the DW trine of mars/pluto even though its a little passed 3 i would still count it only because its a DW.

"In the composite there is a Moon/Pluto sextile at 3, and Venus/Pluto semi square at 0.

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So Angel--who's your vote for who he would be the MOST attracted to?

For the Mars/Pluto case--they do have a DW Trine and Sextile Sun/Moon at 3 and 2 orbs. Sun/Mars DW, a Trine and Square at 4.

posted December 31, 2015 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Unless his moon/venus have some aspects with the Mars/Pluto lady,

Mars/Pluto will be the one he wants to *do* (ahem, excuse the crudeness)
and Venus/Pluto will be the one he pines after.

So, initially, yes, Mars/Pluto could hit him more.

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posted January 01, 2016 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
So Angel--who's your vote for who he would be the MOST attracted to?

For the Mars/Pluto case--they do have a DW Trine and Sextile Sun/Moon at 3 and 2 orbs. Sun/Mars DW, a Trine and Square at 4.

For the Venus/Pluto--they have wide orbs for Sun/Venus Trine at 7 orb and Sun/Moon Trine at 9 orb. His Moon squares her Moon and Mercury at 9 orbs, and Squares her Mars at 0 orb.. Sun/Mars DW at little past 2 inconjunct and little past 8 opposite.

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can you post the synastry ? and the composites? i can you tell my answers who he would feel most sexually attracted too.

i can't tell you who would he feel most attracted to by just the aspects your giving me. i have to see the whole synastry and progressed as well.

But given the aspects you gave me. i would go for the couple that has venus conjunct pluto in the composite within 2-3 orbs.

posted January 02, 2016 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Guess I should be going 'woohoo!' over the VENUS sextile PLUTO (2°) wide PLUTO conjunct VENUS, (8°), and then MARS conjunct PLUTO (0°) and MARS quintile PLUTO (0°).

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Personally, I would too.