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Elysia
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posted January 09, 2016 11:14 AM
  
Hesitated to put this up, but.. really want to hear some expert opinions . What do you guys think of this synastry? (I've only shown major aspects.) -- ***Edit: chart removed*** IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 09, 2016 01:08 PM
*bump* for answers IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 09, 2016 04:02 PM
Who is who? What kind of relationship?  ------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 09, 2016 11:52 PM
Hi LeeLo !
I'm the one outside. It's not exactly a relationship. Complicated.
Just a whole lot of feelings there.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 10, 2016 04:09 AM
Hi
Can you post the composite too?------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 10, 2016 04:35 AM
Sure. Here it is --Editing out image IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 10, 2016 04:38 AM
That's the same synastry  you need to post the Composite chart midpoint method (check the option in astro)------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 10, 2016 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's the same synastry you need to post the Composite chart midpoint method (check the option in astro)
Lol, yeah sorry - copied the wrong pic from imgur Un momento. Will be back with the right one.. Edit: LeeLo, is the image visible now? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 10, 2016 05:37 AM
Yes, it's visible, thanks. I'll be back and tell you more about your dynamics, but unfortunately I don't see an actual relationship forming here, is this man married? or in a long-term relationship? he is from another generation, there is a paternal vibe here, it almost looks like he is your boss or something similar.
Is there something specific you would like to know?------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 10, 2016 05:46 AM
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Elysia
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posted January 10, 2016 01:34 PM
LeeLoo, where art thou? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 10, 2016 03:38 PM
sorry, no time to do the analysis tonight, I'll be back on tuesday IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 10, 2016 03:50 PM
No problemo! Thanks IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 10:09 AM
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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 12, 2016 12:52 PM
Do you know his TOB?------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 01:03 PM
No, I don't know his ToB Plus, moon & venus both changed signs that day. But he does seem like a Leo moon, based on what I've seen the last two years. Can't be sure, though - I'm no expert. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 12, 2016 01:24 PM
Assuming his Moon is opposing your Saturn, your 11th house ruler, with your stellium there, then there is this strong mentorship, parenthood and/or idealization you project on him, and he most certainly feels or reflects it, with his Moon and Sun. He triggers a model in you, unconscious or not, of protection, safety, perhaps a desire to control, but mostly, desire for mentorhsip. Your Juno is already in Cap 11th, so there is a model in you this is how an ideal partner should be. Mars sq Venus/Jupiter on your Mutable Cross brings very strong physical attraction on both sides, unlikely to fade, because it is always on the edge with this aspect, always has a zest and friction about it, and this is very suitable for physical attraction. He is on your cross as a very desirable Mars for your chart, although, in my view, a Mars in Taurus would be perfect for you, but this is great too, so no wonder you feel so drawn. His romantic/marital type is quite different though, there is a mutual pull with the Pluto contacts and this square, but it works from a distance only, IMO, any intimacy would bring the big differences to light. The composite is very exciting and transformational on the inner, psychological plane, especially for you, the focus of the composite is the Sun and its aspects, and this is where your own Sun stellium is, around its mdp, especially on that Mars, the connection touches your "inner male" point and activates it. This connection will trigger energies in you, and push you forward for its psychological effect, the way you feel around it, you will get in touch with "how it can be felt" as a model, and most likely remember and try to reiterate, emotionally, in order to feel it again. But the way I see it here, he is more or less a distant figure, a model. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Assuming his Moon is opposing your Saturn, your 11th house ruler, with your stellium there, then there is this strong mentorship, parenthood and/or idealization you project on him, and he most certainly feels or reflects it, with his Moon and Sun. He triggers a model in you, unconscious or not, of protection, safety, perhaps a desire to control, but mostly, desire for mentorhsip. Your Juno is already in Cap 11th, so there is a model in you this is how an ideal partner should be. Mars sq Venus/Jupiter on your Mutable Cross brings very strong physical attraction on both sides, unlikely to fade, because it is always on the edge with this aspect, always has a zest and friction about it, and this is very suitable for physical attraction. He is on your cross as a very desirable Mars for your chart, although, in my view, a Mars in Taurus would be perfect for you, but this is great too, so no wonder you feel so drawn. His romantic/marital type is quite different though, there is a mutual pull with the Pluto contacts and this square, but it works from a distance only, IMO, any intimacy would bring the big differences to light. The composite is very exciting and transformational on the inner, psychological plane, especially for you, the focus of the composite is the Sun and its aspects, and this is where your own Sun stellium is, around its mdp, especially on that Mars, the connection touches your "inner male" point and activates it. This connection will trigger energies in you, and push you forward for its psychological effect, the way you feel around it, you will get in touch with "how it can be felt" as a model, and most likely remember and try to reiterate, emotionally, in order to feel it again. But the way I see it here, he is more or less a distant figure, a model.
Thanks for the analysis, LeeLoo... He is the Pluto in both cases - sun-pluto and moon-pluto. This, along with the Saturn opposition and Mars square my Venus/Jupiter thrown in - indicates what about his perspective? As in, what does he see me as? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 12, 2016 01:52 PM
He is Pluto sitting on your Sun Moon trine, the attraction is mostly yours; but your are Pluto too, on his Mercury, so there are mutual Pluto vibes. He probably feels the impact he has on you, strongly, but he is a keeping a distance, which seems to come from his position too; as seen from the charts, his position in your life is some kind of authority. He probably feels a degree of physical attraction, but mostly what you project on him, and IMO, his interest doesn't go beyond the "official" rapport between you two.
Assuming his Moon is there, which is speculation, he would probably feel that Saturn and everything else as if having an admirer in you.------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 02:02 PM
Well, thank you for clarifying...--- But this is puzzling because he initiated the whole thing, and at first I didn't feel it. But one day, all of a sudden -- ! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted January 12, 2016 02:17 PM
By authority figure I mean his position. Is he your boss/teacher, something similar? No matter what he is, despite what someone may feel, and even when trying to flirt, it doesn't mean they are willing to trespass the line, that's what I mean by him keeping his position, as seen from both charts. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
despite what someone may feel, and even when trying to flirt, it doesn't mean they are willing to trespass the line, that's what I mean by him keeping his position, as seen from the synastry.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be one of 'those' either. Edit: I would've thought that his Moon sq. my mars, moon sq. eros, his BML conj. my sun would also play into it. And each of our mars on the other's MC axis. The reason I turned to astrology was because, I've become so skeptical that I don't trust his (or any guy's) real life behaviour/words/actions. So, even though he's 120% clear with it and my friends keep telling me - I don't believe him/them. And what you said sort of fits right in with my insecurities. The story is actually quite different from the one painted above, I was hoping someone would go a little deeper with analysis. ^ Don't mean to sound ungrateful, I thank you sincerely for taking the time out to do a reading for me. And thank you for your honesty, too. Just saying... this is one of the reasons I hesitated putting it up. Knowing that if people make flat-out statements it'll hurt my sensitive 12th house moon. 
Not that I want or think anything is to happen. I'm safer if it doesn't. Just wanted to understand.. Either way, I know he is not *the one*. Compulsion to get to the bottom of things prompted the whiny rant. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 13, 2016 12:55 AM
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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 13, 2016 04:27 AM
He's a man who is attracted to you on a surface level, like many men will be in your life: your boss, teachers, neighbors, the vendor at the corner shop etc. With some colleagues at work, for instance, there will always be different degrees of affinity. That's the bottom of things. What's to understand? Lots of men will feel this surface attraction for you throughout your life. Always trust your intuition and the signs when you see this, but this doesn't mean the person feels or wants more, in this case, first or foremost this person is in a relationship. Based on the charts, it seems you two won't be compatible, romantically, even if let's say he would abandon his life for you. What I do, is to evaluate the depth and potential of a relationship, and this is what I saw. I am sorry if it sounds dismissive, but the charts don't tell me a longer, deeper story.
It is an in depth analysis what I did. It took me a long time to analyze two very complex charts and come up with what I told you. I am sorry you are that disappointed, but I am disappointed too about the expectations some people have. If I were to write everything I see in your charts, it would be 50 written pages. What I could do is to write what's standing out in the charts, as much as I can, with my available time and energy. Also, you need to keep the chart up for others to chime in, and to mention who this person is, what the relationship between you is. There are indications in the chart that he is a work superior, or some kind of authority figure. That's what those MC contacts mean. If he is not, than those connections mean something else. No one can continue the analysis without a proper feedback from you. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 14, 2016 09:52 AM
Right, sorry... no, I didn't mean to slight you at all. I realize you had to assimilate all that you could find and put it in words such that a beginner like me could understand. And I do not assume for a minute that he will or that I even want him to leave his life as it is. I too know its not lasting romantically, but we are emotionally close as friends, and that's enough for me. A lot of times people start off as something else in your life and end up as something else. Here, probably the crush/attraction will subside and we'll be left with the friendship/confidante aspect of it.I'm a very private person, and don't want to leave charts up for everyone to see. Plus, its fine if others don't chime in, I trust your analysis, truly (though I may argue from time to time - that's a Libran thing, lol). One experienced person's opinion quite enough for moi. Got momentarily upset, coz the bond is really there. And it's deep. Won't go into details. But yeah, could become a friendship/support system I guess. Sorry for being childish earlier - I'm just a tad over-sensitive to the way people phrase things and am prone to splitting hairs. For me, it was more of a debating back-and-forth (though I don't know S***), not me contradicting you for the heck of it. #LibranProblems And those were not just words, I really am thankful you looked into it and gave me some clarity. I really needed that. IP: Logged | |
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