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Ceridwen
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posted January 11, 2016 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Todd,

just a short question.

which planets do you attribute to each gender?

Sun and Mars to men?
Moon and Venus to women?

Or some others?


I was considering if that works in marriage charts, too, and though I never have been really fond of the "gender-distinction", it seems to work more often than not (though the planets seems to have a double function).

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posted January 11, 2016 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi Ceridwen
Referring to composites… the moon and venus , juno I see as feminine
Saturn, mars I see as masculine.
The sun I see as the vitality of the chart so I don’t really single it out as being masculine though with the moon-sun polarity ,It is more the aggressive symbol.
But when I look at the nature of the attraction in opposite sex composite, I look to the sun and Saturn first. Though the sun/moon is a traditional male/female, mythological the polarity of the moon to Saturn is a much more ancient male/female polarity.
In composites the genders are not rigid, so if the woman is the more aggressive in starting and maintaining the relationship the masculine symbols can apply to her, but usually the cultural gender identities are followed .

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posted January 11, 2016 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so this is a great question! I wondered myself because I'm female and tend to be aggressive in my relationships. What about the other outer planets? Pluto and Uranus = masculine?

Also, do you think there is any significance with composite planets conjunct natals? For example, I have composite moon conjunct my natal Uranus and he has composite sun/jupiter conjunct Venus. There's a blend between masculine and feminine (I've considered Uranus to be masculine but perhaps I am mistaken?) Todd - wondering if you've looked at this in greater detail throughout your learning process? Seems like you have a strong opinion on composites and I'm very intrigued by your methods and how you arrive at your interpretations! Many thanks to you! Love LOVE studying what you provide in your posts!

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posted January 12, 2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Ok so this is a great question! I wondered myself because I'm female and tend to be aggressive in my relationships. What about the other outer planets? Pluto and Uranus = masculine?

Also, do you think there is any significance with composite planets conjunct natals? For example, I have composite moon conjunct my natal Uranus and he has composite sun/jupiter conjunct Venus. There's a blend between masculine and feminine (I've considered Uranus to be masculine but perhaps I am mistaken?) Todd - wondering if you've looked at this in greater detail throughout your learning process? Seems like you have a strong opinion on composites and I'm very intrigued by your methods and how you arrive at your interpretations! Many thanks to you! Love LOVE studying what you provide in your posts!


hi llewscam

the questions on this forum are really excellent as I m sometimes hard pressed to define in my own mind how I interpret some symbols.

I generally don't give gender to unconscious planets in composites. though I do lean toward pluto a male symbol, but even here I see it as unconscious selfishness, which can affect either gender.

for purposes of composite opposite sex charts, I look to the conscious planets for gender identification. though as I have always said, a woman can be identified by male symbol depending on the activities of the souls personality structure in this life.

ufortunately I on't do a lot of cross referencing to natals and composites.my conceptualization of composites are that they are coherent energy fields and can be read apart from the charts whose frequencies crate the composite interference pattern.
I think the meshing of natals I extremely important when one deals with same sex or multiple composites. I focus on composite singularly because so many times the beginning and end as well as the timing of various activities and emotional displays are exactly captured by transits dates.
synastry is very difficult to actually give dates because you have to consider two charts and decide which natal transit would affect the relationship and which don't.
so basically as composite give exact dates in some cases, I choose ot emphasize the singularity of the composite as a complete "entity" in itself. it is also a question of economy.
i don't feel I've answered your question very well but as i said, the quality of the questions here ,are making me reflect on what i do believe.

todd

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posted January 12, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Todd.

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posted January 12, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Todd.

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posted January 12, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of events I also tend to give the composite precedence if I want to be sure that it really pertains to those BOTH people together, and not maybe one experiences something because of other reasons.
Usually however there is a strong link back to both natals or progressed charts, which is further confirmation, that yes, that timeframe is really meaning THAT couple.

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posted January 12, 2016 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not gonna quote your text but just say that I dig how you view transits to the composite and acknowledge the difficulty in relating transits to synastry. Especially those involving the nodes which is why I'm fishing around in that brain of yours...lol.

Do you think its worthwhile however to view comp planets to natal to understand how that might trigger a permanent feeling for the native involved? Perhaps not permanent per se, but a focused energy? I'm really curious about this. I would invite any other takers on this topic as well.

Todd, I'm evaluating composite charts quite differently now with your technique. Looking forward to more dude. Thanks.

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posted January 13, 2016 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by llewsacm:
I'm not gonna quote your text but just say that I dig how you view transits to the composite and acknowledge the difficulty in relating transits to synastry. Especially those involving the nodes which is why I'm fishing around in that brain of yours...lol.

Do you think its worthwhile however to view comp planets to natal to understand how that might trigger a permanent feeling for the native involved? Perhaps not permanent per se, but a focused energy? I'm really curious about this. I would invite any other takers on this topic as well.

Todd, I'm evaluating composite charts quite differently now with your technique. Looking forward to more dude. Thanks.


I think all astrological techniques you be explored. but I am abit dogmatic it looking to a comp to understand the tof a relationship without needing to cross reference with natals.
so many tines one hears" well, he/she wasn't like that when we were dating but after we got together etc..." I think this reflects that the composite will show the nature of personality changes after a relationship is consummate. Aspects that may not have been apparent when dating.
as I have said most of this applies to opposite composites. natal cross over are very important tin same sex or multiple composites, again I don't feel I am getting to the point of your question.mainly because I do not have experience in the applications you are asking about.

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posted January 13, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair enough. I get your perspective...this extra info is helpful. Thanks.

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