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NYCdodger
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posted January 13, 2016 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need insight guys. Our Vertex is also in the 7th house

Also, what would a Saturn conjunct ASC bring (with Mars in the 1st house)?

Me and this person have a packed 12th house together as well. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and NN (Saturn is close to the ASC though.)

We also have Pluto conjunct MC and Sun and merc in the 8th house

(sorry i can't post the chart right now)

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posted January 13, 2016 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump? I just want to know those specific placements

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posted January 15, 2016 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like you are meant to be in relationship for a while bc of vertex in the 7th and moon on the DC but it will probably end in heart break bc of chiron in the DC and Saturn in the AC. Chiron on the DC or 7th in my personal experience is about the healing that must ultimately happen from the karmic pain of not been together and getting to that place of acceptance and peace.
Saturn in the AC could indicate age difference or delays in being togther or outside factors preventing you to be together or symbolize how you are committed to each other for a while but with chiron on the DC opposing Saturn it to me further confirms that theme of ultimate heartbreak and not being able to be together.

You definitely have karma with this person.

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posted January 15, 2016 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sounds like you are meant to be in relationship for a while bc of vertex in the 7th and moon on the DC but it will probably end in heart break bc of chiron in the DC and Saturn in the AC. Chiron on the DC or 7th in my personal experience is about the healing that must ultimately happen from the karmic pain of not been together and getting to that place of acceptance and peace.
Saturn in the AC could indicate age difference or delays in being togther or outside factors preventing you to be together or symbolize how you are committed to each other for a while but with chiron on the DC opposing Saturn it to me further confirms that theme of ultimate heartbreak and not being able to be together.

You definitely have karma with this person.


Thanks for the response! Its funny because we talked about healing, and resolving our afflictions with one another. In other words, we both expressed that we felt that we "met" each other to help heal and inspire one another. Our relationship is also very sexual for some reason.

She told me I inspired her to break up from her boyfriend of 6 years (it was a bad relationship) and she considered me being her romantic partner. But I have abandonment issues, and she has issues with expressing her emotions so even though the feelings are there, its hard for me to verbalize. When we're in public, we don't really show affection for one another. But when we are alone its a completely different story.

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posted January 15, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi
you need to consider the complete composite not just bits and pieces.
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posted January 15, 2016 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi
you need to consider the complete composite not just bits and pieces.
todd

I know. But I'm speaking on these specific aspects and if any insight is available for them

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posted January 16, 2016 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Thanks for the response! Its funny because we talked about healing, and resolving our afflictions with one another. In other words, we both expressed that we felt that we "met" each other to help heal and inspire one another. Our relationship is also very sexual for some reason.

She told me I inspired her to break up from her boyfriend of 6 years (it was a bad relationship) and she considered me being her romantic partner. But I have abandonment issues, and she has issues with expressing her emotions so even though the feelings are there, its hard for me to verbalize. When we're in public, we don't really show affection for one another. But when we are alone its a completely different story.


awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww that is a beautiful way for it to manifest (healing together is the ideal way this can manifest), thanks for sharing how it has been so far for you two.

Sounds sooo sweet and romantic! I am rooting for you two .

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posted January 16, 2016 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww that is a beautiful way for it to manifest (healing together is the ideal way this can manifest), thanks for sharing how it has been so far for you two.

Sounds sooo sweet and romantic! I am rooting for you two .


Lol thanks for this

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posted January 16, 2016 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn cnj ascendant means the relationship will last for a very long time.
Now for the composite descendant, its not how you relate to one anoter, (that's the descendant of natal charts, but in the chart of the relationship itself, the descendant shows how you relate to OTHERS, keep in mind that the 7th house is also the house of enemies).
Now this may indicate that your emotional needs (moon) is to help others (dsc) with the wound that you yourselves are unable to heal from ? (the composite descendant is new territory to me)
Anything that falls in your mc shows the public part of the relationship.
Planets present in the 8th shows how you accomplish your merging (through communication with mercuy), the sun here indicates a relationship that revolves around sex and inner transformation.
I share the same planets and n.node on my composite 12th house with a friend of mine. the 12th house is tricky enough in the natal, in composite it's even more confusing, i'm gonna give you the links i found most useful:
http://astrologystudy.blogspot.com/2012/08/composite-houses-and-4-clusters.html
http://theinnerwheel.com/2012/09/01/the-composite-chart-and-the-12th-house-the-ghost-at-the-door/


Btw is you composite ascendant by chance late capricorn or early aquarius ?

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posted January 16, 2016 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ yes its early Aquarius

My asc is 9 degree Aquarius, and hers is 24 degree Capricorn. We both have the same ruling planets touching it. Her Saturn in Aqua touches my ASC exact, and my Saturn in Cap touches her ASC exact as well. We hit it off IMMEDIATELY when we met. Also my ASC is in her 1st house which is also pretty binding.

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posted January 16, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My DSC is in her 7th house as well. i forgot to add.

Wish i could post the chart guys. Sorry

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posted January 16, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it could mean the realationship will last a long time, saturn definitely glues. But it could also mean age difference, delays in relationship taking off or the denial of the relationship all together. Saturn is great for commitment but Saturn also limits and restrics...in his case she was in a six year relationship when they met which means delays and they will probably take their time to commit but once they do they will fight for the relationship and stick together.

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posted January 16, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 16, 2016 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^^ yes its early Aquarius

My asc is 9 degree Aquarius, and hers is 24 degree Capricorn. We both have the same ruling planets touching it. Her Saturn in Aqua touches my ASC exact, and my Saturn in Cap touches her ASC exact as well. We hit it off IMMEDIATELY when we met. Also my ASC is in her 1st house which is also pretty binding.


Great for you two, your chart rulers touch the other's ascendant, indication of instant attraction !
also from my experiance, a fixed composite ascendant shows a long lasting relationship, combined with saturn, it won't go away for better or for worst, i have this, and even when i tried ending that relationship (it was so difficult for me to make that choice, and i did my best to avoid it) it wouldn't work, neither of us was willing to walk away from the other !

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posted January 16, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes it could mean the realationship will last a long time, saturn definitely glues. But it could also mean age difference, delays in relationship taking off or the denial of the relationship all together. Saturn is great for commitment but Saturn also limits and restrics...in his case she was in a six year relationship when they met which means delays and they will probably take their time to commit but once they do they will fight for the relationship and stick together.

This is true. She told me that out of all of her friends I was the one who finally "convinced" her to break up with him. But she said I convinced her because I seemed to be the most genuine, or "eye-opening". Funny thing, I wasn't even trying to convince her. I was just being honest. We only knew each other for a few weeks at that time and already we were getting personal. We admire each other highly, she caught feelings for me before I did. Now I'm considering taking it to the next level with her. But after that bad break-up, I'm going to just take things slow with her and continue building on trust.

I recognize that this is something karmic and nothing more. The Moon and Chrion on DSC is showing me that healing needs to take place. Our 12th house cluster shows us this as well as the Sun in the 8th. And we both realized this even before I even bothered looking at the composite to begin with. I feel a sense of "letting go" though. We spoke about how we felt with one another and I expressed that maybe she needs to just focus on what makes her happy and at ease with herself. Being single has its perks lol

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posted January 16, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is true. She told me that out of all of her friends I was the one who finally "convinced" her to break up with him. But she said I convinced her because I seemed to be the most genuine, or "eye-opening". Funny thing, I wasn't even trying to convince her. I was just being honest. We only knew each other for a few weeks at that time and already we were getting personal. We admire each other highly, she caught feelings for me before I did. Now I'm considering taking it to the next level with her. But after that bad break-up, I'm going to just take things slow with her and continue building on trust.

I recognize that this is something karmic. The Moon and Chrion on DSC is showing me this. And we both realized this even before I even bothered looking at the composite.


Totally do keep things slow, after the break-up of a 6 yo relationship, no matter how bad it was will take her time to be ready for a new relationship. Now as for fate, i'd take the packed 12th house (strong karma here) over the moon on the descendant as in the composite it's how you two relate to the other people around you as a couple.

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posted January 16, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Totally do keep things slow, after the break-up of a 6 yo relationship, no matter how bad it was will take her time to be ready for a new relationship. Now as for fate, i'd take the packed 12th house (strong karma here) over the moon on the descendant as in the composite it's how you two relate to the other people around you as a couple.

Lol I just edited my comment. YUP! I agree with the 12th house cluster. Especially with NN there as well

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posted January 16, 2016 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
This is true. She told me that out of all of her friends I was the one who finally "convinced" her to break up with him. But she said I convinced her because I seemed to be the most genuine, or "eye-opening". Funny thing, I wasn't even trying to convince her. I was just being honest. We only knew each other for a few weeks at that time and already we were getting personal. We admire each other highly, she caught feelings for me before I did. Now I'm considering taking it to the next level with her. But after that bad break-up, I'm going to just take things slow with her and continue building on trust.

I recognize that this is something karmic and nothing more. The Moon and Chrion on DSC is showing me that healing needs to take place. Our 12th house cluster shows us this as well as the Sun in the 8th. And we both realized this even before I even bothered looking at the composite to begin with. I feel a sense of "letting go" though. We spoke about how we felt with one another and I expressed that maybe she needs to just focus on what makes her happy and at ease with herself. Being single has its perks lol


You are very honest you always speak from your heart, carefully thought out observations and your instincts, I could see why you had an impact.

Taking it slow and healing together sounds great, try to enjoy this new soul mate connection and follow your heart and instincts.

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posted January 16, 2016 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^I'll try my best. Remember its hard for me to fully open and trust people as well. I have deep abandonment issues that I need to resolve. I don't know why I do, but i just do. I've been alone my entire life and even the people i consider to be my closest friends I find myself distancing from every now and then..

My Saturn and NN in my 12th house (natal) may be the causes of this

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posted January 17, 2016 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^You are deserving of love and young, you will come across that girl that won't leave you and stick by you no matter what; your best friend and partner in crime. She is out there, maybe you found her already, maybe not. All I know is that you won't find her if you don't take risks, have faith and bounce back from every disillusionment.

There is something scarier than been abandoned and that is losing your ability to love and that is something you have control over, nobody can take away that ability but yourself so chose love over fear every time but take your time and go at your pace, that is understandable.

I think you should feel truly great about the fact that you are trying hard and pushing your comfort zones as that is all anyone can ask from you. Some people don't try at all, you are trying so keep trying and you will get there. I know the universe has a special girl in store for you.


I think you said if I remember correctly that you have Venus in Cancer or was it something else? I think that perhaps that is were the fear of abandonment comes from, your cancer placement which has a strong need to feel safe in order to open up. What do you have in saturn? I also wonder if you have any sidereal to tropic conjunctions...It would be nice if you post your chart but understand if you can't or don't want to.

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posted January 17, 2016 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my chart

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posted January 17, 2016 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^You are deserving of love and young, you will come across that girl that won't leave you and stick by you no matter what; your best friend and partner in crime. She is out there, maybe you found her already, maybe not. All I know is that you won't find her if you don't take risks, have faith and bounce back from every disillusionment.

There is something scarier than been abandoned and that is losing your ability to love and that is something you have control over, nobody can take away that ability but yourself so chose love over fear every time but take your time and go at your pace, that is understandable.

I think you should feel truly great about the fact that you are trying hard and pushing your comfort zones as that is all anyone can ask from you. Some people don't try at all, you are trying so keep trying and you will get there. I know the universe has a special girl in store for you.


I think you said if I remember correctly that you have Venus in Cancer or was it something else? I think that perhaps that is were the fear of abandonment comes from, your cancer placement which has a strong need to feel safe in order to open up. What do you have in saturn? I also wonder if you have any sidereal to tropic conjunctions...It would be nice if you post your chart but understand if you can't or don't want to.


That is so inspiring Hypatia, thank you for posting that, it touched me.

NYCdodger, what i see that's most likely to be the cause of your fears, is your moon, its in your 8th (intimacy and merging with another soul), but it has so many squares, venus (love), jupiter (optimism), neptune (dreams) and finally the harshest of them all, saturn.
Moon is the childish part of yourseld, your subconscious that knows no rules nor boundaries (those come from your conscious mind), when it meets the demanding and very realistic and practical saturn, it feels restricted, bound and stupid for wanting the things it want (saturn is patronizing), read more about aspects to your moon, to understand it better.

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posted January 17, 2016 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ I agree. I figured my Moon in the 8th is the cause for much of those problems along with whats going on in the 12th.

Funny enough, my moon lands in HER 8th house in our synastry as well...

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posted January 17, 2016 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think is that moon tsquare you have involving Saturn in the 12th opposite Chiron in Cancer both squaring your Moon in the 8th.

The real fear is the fear of heart break bc that is what is underneath the fear of abandonment I feel with that tsquare.

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in two words
"painful lessons"

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