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Neptunian Venus
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posted January 14, 2016 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptunian Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a popular technique in Vedic astrology where they make the Moon sign the Ascendant, and judge the planets accordingly.
So I've been thinking, could this work for synastry too?

I believe it's effects in interpersonal relationships would show how close and connected you feel to someone on a more deeper, intuitive level, how you impact eachother emotionally.

I have Moon in Gemini so Gemini would become my new ASC.
I have always found those who had planets in or aspecting the lords of my Moon chart's 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th houses have the strongest effect on me, emotionally.

Can anyone confirm this with their synastries?

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comdoc
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posted January 14, 2016 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting idea. My Moon is also in Gemini. With former fiance, her natal Venus is conjunct my Moon "ASC". And the Wedge chart formation points there! My natal Jupiter is on the Moon "DESC". Lust--Psyche and Uranus--Amor--Chiron in 5th.

With first wife, Neptune--Vertex in 5H, her Mercury conj my natal Jupiter on the Moon "DESC", and Mars/MC on 8H cusp.

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Elysia
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posted January 14, 2016 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting approach - never tried that... Will report back if I find something

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Neptunian Venus
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posted January 14, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptunian Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Checking my own synastries with the men who have had the strongest emotional impact on me:
(I'm only narrowing it down to 1st, 5th, 7th, 8th, 12th house aspects and hard aspects only)


Person A - Current love. Haven't known him for long but our relationship is already very serious and full of mutual love, respect, maturity, loyalty and commitment. We've already talked about marriage and having a future together. I strongly believe he is the one.

His Planets - My Moon Chart
His IC conjunct my ASC
His Vertex square my ASC
His Sun conjunct my ASC lord
His Moon opposite my ASC lord
His Sun/Mercury/Jupiter in my 4th
His Sun conjunct my 4th lord
His Mars/Pluto in my 5th
His DESC/Mars/Mercury/Jupiter conjunct my 5th lord
His Moon/Uranus/Neptune square my 5th lord
His Uranus/Neptune in my 7th
His Mars conjunct my DESC lord
His Moon in my 8th
His Venus opposite my 8th lord
His South Node in my 12th
His DESC/Mercury/Mars/Jupiter conjunct my 12th lord
His Moon/Uranus/Neptune square my 12th lord
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My Planets - His Moon Chart
My DESC conjunct his ASC
My South Node/MC in his 4th
My Venus/Jupiter/IC conjunct his 4th lord
My Sun conjunct his 5th lord
My Saturn opposite his 5th lord
My ASC in his DESC
My Uranus/Neptune conjunct his DESC lord
My Venus square his DESC lord
My Mercury conjunct his 8th lord
My Moon square his 8th lord
My Uranus/Neptune in his 12th
My Venus conjunct his 12th lord

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Person B - Dear friend who I've known for 5 years. We both had feelings for each other, but he hurt me in the past and there was some resentment on my part. But we reconciled and are still in touch. We care deeply about one another and consider each other to be soulmates, but I know it's not meant to be with him. I guess through him I learned the value of unconditional love. (We have a NN-Venus DW)

His Planets - My Moon Chart
His Venus/Mercury conjunct my ASC
His Moon square my ASC
His Mars conjunct my ASC lord
His Moon/Saturn opposite my ASC lord
His Mars in my 4th
His Mars/ASC conjunct my 4th lord
His Saturn opposite my 4th lord
His NN in my 5th
His Sun/Uranus/Neptune square my 5th lord
His Vertex conjunct my 8th lord
His Jupiter square my 8th lord
His NN conjunct my 12th lord
His Sun/Uranus/Neptune square my 12th lord

My Planets - His Moon Chart
My Sun/Saturn square his ASC lord
My Venus square his ASC co-lord
My Moon/Mars in his 4th
My Moon/Mars conjunct his 4th lord
My Vertex square his 4th lord
My ASC in his 5th
My Moon/Mars square his 5th
My Mercury in his 7th
My Moon/Mars conjunct his DESC lord
My Venus/Jupiter/NN in his 8th
My Moon/Mars conjunct his 8th lord
My Saturn in his 12th
My Venus/Jupiter/IC conjunct his 12th lord
My Mercury opposite his 12th lord
My Vertex square his 12th lord
My Venus/IC/MC square his 12th co-lord

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Person C - Catalyst for experiencing the highest form of love I ever thought existed. I believed him to be my twin soul. Haven't met him since he is a celebrity lol. But I've known him for about 8 years and he's had a very transformational effect on me.

His Planets - My Moon Chart
His Jupiter conjunct my ASC
His Moon/Mars conjunct my ASC lord
His Mercury/Venus in my 4th
His Moon/Mars conjunct my 4th lord
His Pluto in my 5th house
His Venus conjunct my 5th lord
His Saturn/Neptune/Uranus conjunct my DESC
His Pluto conjunct my DESC lord
His Sun-ASC opposite my 8th lord
His Venus conjunct my 12th lord

My Planets - His Moon Chart
My Sun/Mercury conjunct his ASC
My Sun conjunct his ASC lord
My Saturn opposite his ASC lord
My Pluto in his 4th
My Mercury conjunct his 4th lord
My Jupiter/NN conjunct his 4th lord
My Pluto square his 4th co-lord
My Moon/Mars conjunct his 5th lord
My Moon/Mars opposite his 7th lord
My Saturn conjunct his DESC
My Pluto square his 7th co-lord
My Moon/Mars opposite his 8th lord
My Moon/Mars conjunct his 8th co-lord
My Sun/Mercury conjunct his 12th lord

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fiola
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posted January 15, 2016 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do we use same houses as vedic (30° each) or our usual natal division (placidus) ?

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Neptunian Venus
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posted January 15, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptunian Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fiola:
do we use same houses as vedic (30° each) or our usual natal division (placidus) ?

Same as Vedic, whole signs.

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fiola
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posted January 15, 2016 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i'm gonna share what i found with the men that impacted me most emotionally.

the first one (person A) is an ex i loved very deeply and had what i thought to be one-sided love (it felt like it anyways, he's a scorpio asc, very secretive folks) :

his venus in my 1st from moon
his moon in my 4th
his uranus, saturn and neptune in my 5th
his nnode in my 6th
his jupiter, chiron in my 10th
sun, mars and mercury in my 12th

my uranus, saturn and neptune in his 2nd
my chiron, venus and jupiter in 9th
moon in his 10th (5°from mc)
sun, mercury and mars in 11th
my pluto in his 12th

the second person (B) was my first boyfriend and still to this day a very dear friend of mine :

his pluto in my 2nd
his uranus, saturn and neptune in my 4th
his mars (exactly cnj 5th cusp), moon in my 5th
his sun and nnode in my 7th
his jupiter and venus in my 8th
his chiron in my 10th

my saturn in his 1st
my chiron in his 7th
my venus, jupiter, moon in his 8th
my sun, mercury in his 9th
my mars in his 10th
my pluto in his 11th
and my uranus, neptune, nnode in his 12th


the third person (C) is a friend with whom the attraction is phenomenal (neither of us is willing to take things further though):

his pluto in my 3rd
his mercury and uranus in my 4th
his neptune, saturn, sun, nnode in my 5th
his venus and moon in my 6th
his mars in my 9th
his chiron, jupiter and vertex in my 11th

my chiron in his 6th
my venus, jupiter, moon in his 7th
my vertex, sun, mercury and mars in his 8th (well mars is exactly cnj the 9th cusp)
my pluto in his 9th
my uranus, nnode and neptune in his 11th

I still havent processed these synastries under this new light, i'll get back to you later about their accuracy

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Neptunian Venus
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posted January 15, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptunian Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet!

Also, don't forget to check 12th house aspects, since it's considered the house of bed pleasures.

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fiola
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posted January 16, 2016 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunian Venus:
Sweet!

Also, don't forget to check 12th house aspects, since it's considered the house of bed pleasures.


Funny, i never gave that a thought but it would make sense seeing its the house of secrets and some claim its the house of soulmates. Would this still be effective in regular synastry ?

Back to my previous post.

person A :
i was madly in love with him, and his venus and moon positions do signify that, i loved him in a very unconventional way (long distance relationship) my love for him was unconditional and i did feel very restricted when with him so the 5th house placements also hold truths. And communication with him was so difficult(he was secretive), also i couldn't really percieve him clearly over time, neither his motivations (sun, mars and mercury in 12th)

my chiron, venus and jupiter in his 9th (again, the long distance thing), my feelings for him were very public (hence my moon in 10th cnj mc), my sun, mercury and mars in his 11th means he considered me more as a friend ?
my pluto in his 12th, i did know his deepest secrets and that made him unconfortabe at times when i tried to help him work through them (i always explained this with his natal chiron cnj my s.node)

for this person i agree with how he affected me, but i don't really know about him, only he can confirm that i guess.

Person B :
he was possessive of me (pluto in 2nd),
from this article illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2014/08/synastry-neptune-in-your-partners-house.html

Neptune in your Partners 4th house

There may be vague circumstances that seem vaguely familiar with your partner and your family. Your partner may have a family member that relies heavily on him for support in which may interfere with your time at home together. On the other hand, Neptune offers the 4th house person a place to let it all go, and live a little fantasy. If you live together your home can be a place of tranquility and spiritualism. The Neptune person might help the house person release any family traumas or past hurts.

is especially true, me being the 4th house person; i felt burdened at times by the time he was taking from my personal time with my family (saturn at display here) but i'm unable to relate to uranus in this placement.

him hitting my 5th house is totally relatable, i had a lot of fun with him, i felt at ease and eventually i loved him, not in a deep emotional kind of way, in the fun light-hearted way exprssed by the 5th (in the regular synastry these fell on my 10th house)

I viewed him as an ideal partner and felt compelled to be with him ( sun and nnode in my 7th), i can't really relate to the 8th house though

now for how i affedted him :
Big YES to saturn in 1st, i restricted him, wanted to push him to be more mature and responsible, i know he always felt more deeply about me than i him, so i'll agree with my venus, jupiter and moon in his 8th, sun and mercury in 9th, we met in college, and we did use tutoring as a way to get closer to one another mars in his 10th would signify i gave him a boost towards his career ? idk we were both young and uncertain about the future. My pluto in his 11th would signify me trying to control who his friends are, not true, althought i did protest all the time about him sharing our personal time with his friends (when we're on a date and a friend decides to pop in or have an extended chat with him, he would see this as normal behavior. drove me outa my mind ! lol). i can't relate to the 12th house stuff though as it his house of secrets.

I'm going to leave person C for another time, my response is already long enough as it is lol

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