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Topic: Stellium and the Goat Man's PLACIDUS Composite
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2016 06:05 PM
Composite Chart IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 20, 2016 07:17 PM
Hi. I would be grateful for some expertise analysis. We were a couple as teenagers; now 30 years later we are back together. It has amazed me how life happens and how this relationship has evolved. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 20, 2016 10:51 PM
By the Composite, how do we love each other?IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 15, 2016 10:21 PM
Any takers?IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 27, 2016 12:15 PM
For Todd - Thanks!IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6707 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 27, 2016 05:38 PM
Keep your emotions in check. With that 8H energy, and the luminaries conjunct, there's an intense sense of togetherness that can easily devolve into codependency. Watch for that. The cMARS only emphasises this tendency.Love that NNODE-AMOR conjunction in the 9H. Pretty self-explanatory. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 27, 2016 06:20 PM
Dear Aubyanne, I am grateful for your time and knowledge. I believe this codependency scares the H out of him. He seeks freedom and independence. IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 27, 2016 06:54 PM
interesting, the union/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct the vertex, not what I was expecting for someone that is non committal. though as I have said before, the vertex aspects do not always integrate into the chart as one would assume.so even though this strikes me as a commitment sign, it might not necessary function like that. anything with the vertex can bring a sense of karma or unworldly connections. venus on the desc and sextile to the node and amore certainly brings a stable emotional affection for each other. I some ways this is a excellent aspect for venus as it shows constancy in the emotional connection and not a up and down....usually. but that said venus square to pluto can be problematic because the emotional attraction is subject to unconscious influences which usually detract from the conscious affection. as a sexual aspect it can be initially intense but most often the sexual tension wanes because the unconscious nature of Pluto does not reciprocate the emotional bonding that hopefully occurs after extended sexual intimacy. the isis/Osiris midpoint is conjunct to Neptune with Neptune sextile to pluto. this shows a stable sensitivity with a distinctly healing affect. oiris and isis imply deep emotion wounds that could be ameliorated by the relationship . with the mars/venus midpoint conjunct valentine and the cupid/amore conjunction with the node, there is a very romantic and loving ambience overall to the relationship in spite of the pluto/venus "void". with the Jupiter/juno midpoint conjunct to mars it really seems like he acts as if he wants to commit though he doth protest to much. it seems a major obstacle to the commitment issues revolves around the chiron/juno conjunction opposed to pluto snd square to venus. first chiron square to venus can be overly concerned with the feelings of the other, always analyzing and second guessing. with love this is just a impulse to know the other as deeply and accurately as possible to help with any emotional issues not understood. but if the affection sours the this aspect shows that the deep insights into each others psyche can lead to deep destructive and painful insults and criticism. the sun/Saturn and moon/Saturn midpoints are square to the venus/Neptune midpoint which can weaken the bonds of devotion as the emotional bonding is weakened by lack of emotional transparency either by design of by basic uncertainty of true feelings. this pattern can also be a bit emotional cruel . this last pattern was transited by the node recently as all these midpoints are on the 18th degree of the cardnal cross which the node went through in the first week of this month. todd IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 27, 2016 07:22 PM
Greetings to you Todd~ I cannot thank you enough. You use midpoints quite a bit, huh? So, I am thinking we are not showing our truest feelings to each other. There are things between us holding back the transparency of our real emotions. We are scared to be vulnerable (our naked selves). Am I understanding correctly? If so, I believe this to be very accurate of our relationship together.IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 27, 2016 08:23 PM
yes ,those are the dynamics I tried to verbalize. thank you for your feedback toddIP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 17, 2017 05:51 PM
Hello Todd, Goat Man ended it with me this past week. He said that he did not have an intimate connection with me. I asked him to explain and clarify for me and he told me he couldn't give me specific reasons, it was how he was feeling. Did the Venus square Pluto influence how this feeling came to be for him? Can you tell me more? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7094 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 17, 2017 06:12 PM
I think he is giving you an excuse but it has less to do with you or the connection you two have and more to do with his natal chart and his nature.He has sun conjunct mercury and venus in the 7H and you know what I told you about stelliums in the 7H making the native feel very overwhelmed in relationships causing them to end relationships out of nowhere and you add to the mix that his stellium squares Uranus further reinforcing this theme and that Saturn rules his 7H which makes relationship feel extra heavy in light of everything I just said! Why do you insist in believing this has to do with you and your connection? Its so obvious is him and the issues he has! You need to accept this and not take it personally and let him go. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 17, 2017 06:52 PM
Right now I can't get past the hurt and rejection. I need to analyze to cope so I can move on. I'll get there! This was a 2 1/2 year relationship. Plus he has been in heart since I was 15 years old, that's 30+ years. My friends and family have told me the same things you have, hypatia. I thank you for replying.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7094 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 18, 2017 12:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by StelliumH6: Right now I can't get past the hurt and rejection. I need to analyze to cope so I can move on. I'll get there! This was a 2 1/2 year relationship. Plus he has been in heart since I was 15 years old, that's 30+ years. My friends and family have told me the same things you have, hypatia. I thank you for replying.
I understand its hard...you will get through it IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2622 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 18, 2017 11:57 AM
Sorry to hear that Stellium, yea those things aren't funny at all. I looked at your progressed Lunar Phase (pMoon to pSun) and we see an exact prog Full Moon currently, that's THE marker for any new start; relationships might end OR get off the ground. Here we see an ending. I always prefer to see with both partners a 4th harmonic progressed lunar phase occur at the same time. But him, he's getting nothing of that, not from the progressed Moon to the progressed Sun, nor from the progressed Moon to his natal Sun (those are the 2 I always look at; pMoon to pSun/nSun). I would explain a lack of progressed lunar phase harmony as not operating on the same level throughout time/life. When you are ready for (ANY) new start, full of energie to create and go-for-it, inspired by the friction of life which will inevitably arise during those progr 4th harmonic days, he will rest on his laurels so to speak. We can imagine that this is most clearly felt when one person is going through a 4th harmonic phase as those are the ones screaming for action. The exactness of your Full Moon currently is the blowoff, the literal outbreak. He simply can't handle the fire in you. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 19, 2017 08:07 PM
hypatia, can you explain this one? He ended it with me this past week, then there was a woman at his house for the entire weekend. If relationships overwhelm him why did he distance himself from me and go into another one?IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 624 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 19, 2017 08:15 PM
mir, I am trying to understand this. So when two people do not have the same progressed lunar phase harmony, then they do not manage on the same level together throughout their lifetimes? One person is aiming to go in one direction, while the other is stagnant or perhaps moving in a different way. Is this what you were telling me?IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2622 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 20, 2017 01:33 AM
^ stellium yes, exactly what I was saying.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7094 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 20, 2017 01:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by StelliumH6: hypatia, can you explain this one? He ended it with me this past week, then there was a woman at his house for the entire weekend. If relationships overwhelm him why did he distance himself from me and go into another one?
Spending a weekend with someone is not a commitment, is only a matter of time bf he starts feeling overwhelmed with her bc that is part of his cycle... ....he is aware to some extent of his cycle bc he has said things to you that indicate at least some awareness of it IP: Logged |