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nordicsoul
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posted February 13, 2016 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have any of you observed this to be the case?. I am analyzing a chart where I do not see strong sun-sun sun-venus connection

I only see venus (his) sextile moon exact (her) and conjunct her saturn (her saturn is not afflicted in her chart, but it is in square to his natal venus)
pluto (his) sextile venus exact (her)

CHIRON (his) trine her SUN (1 orb), VENUS (exact), MARS (2 orb).

I dont have the hour for the guy, so I dont know the house overlays.

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posted February 13, 2016 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Have any of you observed this to be the case?

Have we observed *what* to be the case?

Care to post a link to the magi site?

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nordicsoul
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posted February 13, 2016 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Have we observed *what* to be the case?

Care to post a link to the magi site?


the trine between chiron and venus was considered a magic linkage.

i dont find the exact quote as the site is not very user friendly, but here is where i read it. in some of th epages of this website..

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yungang_grotto
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posted February 13, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... so far so good with Chiron trine Venus-Sun-Mercury in Davison composite, but magi hasn't come out publicly with their findings re composites, let alone Davison, so I don't know if this is applicable.

I can tell you that I've come to understand why they take *positive* aspects to Chiron to represent true love and can validate it through my personal truth lens.

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nordicsoul
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posted February 14, 2016 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I can tell you that I've come to understand why they take *positive* aspects to Chiron to represent true love and can validate it through my personal truth lens.

Thanks Yungang-Grotto,

true love. would you feel is different from moon-venus moon-neptune. I dont know, i just wonder about the term. what is different in your experience?

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nordicsoul
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posted February 14, 2016 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and this the site I read the info, but I dont find the exact quote..
http://www.magiastrology.com/lesson2.html

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posted February 14, 2016 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
extracted from the site

"a Chiron Linkage is the most powerful linkage in any relationship. When two people who are attracted to each other form a Chiron Linkage, they are likely to think they are in love. Whether or not they actually fall in love, and whether the love is lasting, depends on if they have stronger linkages than activations"

linkages: trines, conjunction and quincux (except quincux to saturn)
activations: square and oppositions

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posted February 14, 2016 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Have any of you observed this to be the case?. I am analyzing a chart where I do not see strong sun-sun sun-venus connection

I only see venus (his) sextile moon exact (her) and conjunct her saturn (her saturn is not afflicted in her chart, but it is in square to his natal venus)
pluto (his) sextile venus exact (her)

CHIRON (his) trine her SUN (1 orb), VENUS (exact), MARS (2 orb).

I dont have the hour for the guy, so I dont know the house overlays.

thanks


You mean MAGI and not MAGIC? I personally find Magi to be way too closed-minded. They basically only list a few aspects that they say make a relationship work and discard other important aspects.

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Ceridwen
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posted February 14, 2016 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with SunAscendant, though having said that, reading their interpretations can be very entertaining, as they have the theatrical flair I love.

And on a more serious note, there are some of their methods that have merit and that I find valuable. Though they have NOT been invented by the Magi, even though they claim they have. (talking about planetary synchronization and the declinations in particular).


Other things I have not found to be of that much value, at least not in the way they interprete them.


As for Chiron-Venus, yes, the positive aspects can be indicative of a beautiful connection. Not in the "waving-the-magic-wand-and-poof-you`re-a-Cinderella" way though.

The reason why I also believe that Chiron IS coming up often in soulmate-connections, is that he is the one that bridges the personal/ physical sphere (ending with Saturn) to the transformational/ transpersonal sphere (starting with Uranus).

The bridging process however will also involve some growing-pain, something the Magi omit consistently.
So Chiron aspects make you feel very vulnerable and raw inside, that is of course a deep and soulful thing (I mean seriously whoever can make you feel soulfully naked must have quite some impact on you), but it is not all roses and candy and fluff, it`s much deeper than that, and you will have to be very honest with yourself and probably will be facing the issues, you maybe do not quite want to face; but only through facing those issues you can heal them or transcend them in a way.


Now Venus in smooth aspect to Chiron certainly can help doing that by adding that loving vibe (as long as Venus is not squared or oposed or quinkunx some harsher energies of course, like Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto; the harsh aspects to Neptune could be problematic as well, but more in the sense of that things might not be as they seem.).


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nordicsoul
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posted February 14, 2016 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the in-depth comment Ceri..

best
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