posted February 18, 2016 08:26 AM            

The event-composite

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His natal

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posted February 19, 2016 11:21 AM            

At this point I can't look at an event composite and gather much about it.

posted February 19, 2016 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi there

At this point I can't look at an event composite and gather much about it.

Describe the situation for me? And then, with that added context, I will see what I can glean from the chart.

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Thank you very much Faith!!!

there is a yod in both cases, involving similar planets and there are many connections to my natal as well! So, I was trying to get the meaning of it or how my actions affected him! Thank you very much for your help !!!

posted February 19, 2016 11:36 AM            

Also, how did he react to you...did you get a good feeling right then and there, or a bad feeling, like something was missing?

posted February 19, 2016 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes please, more data.

Also, how did he react to you...did you get a good feeling right then and there, or a bad feeling, like something was missing?

I would rather look at the charts as complementary information in solving the mystery, not as the "deciding factor."

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I told him all of my feelings in a message
that's why I got curious and overwhelmed and try to interpret them.

I am going to write the connections now!

posted February 19, 2016 11:54 AM            

He also has a quinqunx with Mercury 14 Aqua and Mars 14 Virgo

In his event composite, we have a yod with
Mercury 10 19' and Pholus 11 00 Aqua as the apex (conjunct his natal Sun)
Moon 9 52 Cancer (conjunct his natal Moon)
NN 10 40' Virgo (conjunct his natal jupiter/mars and MY natal Moon - 10 56' Virgo!)
You really need to see the two charts, the same signs are involved and almost all of the same planets!!!

Then his event composite Asc is 16 22 Cancer, pretty close to my NN 13 16' cancer

His event composite IC/MC axis is 1 56' Libra
Our natal composite Vertex is 2 47' Libra
Our natal composite Dsc is 4 17' Libra
our natal composite Pholus is 3 59' Aries (on our composite Asc 4 17' Aries, I just found out now, I guess this is significant)

His event composite Saturn is 5 58' Scorpio
his natal Vertex is 5 05' Scorpio
opposite our natal composite sun in 4 37' Taurus (and Mercury 6 39' Taurus)

His event composite Mercury and Pholus in 10-11 Aqua
opposite our natal compo Moon in 9 47' Leo
his natal Sun 8 42' Aqua

His event composite Sun 19 00 Aqua
on his natal MC/IC 17 54' Aqua/leo
pretty close on my natal s/m midpoint 20 43' leo

His event composite Uranus 6 28 Aqua
on our natal composite South Node 6 19 Aqua

his event composite Neptune 0 29 Aqua
on our natal composite Ceres 0 29 Aqua
opposite my natal Sun 0 32 Leo!

These are just some of them, there are other connections, too!

posted February 19, 2016 03:58 PM            

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You really need to see the two charts, the same signs are involved and almost all of the same planets!!!

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LOL, I did notice, shook my head a little and thought, "I'm too tired, 'clicked on the same thing twice" and waited til the next day to reply.

That is pretty wild.

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I guess this has to do with my very weird and strong impulse yesterday?

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Yes it all looks highly significant.

Considering the nature of your message to him, my red pencil is circling this one:

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His event composite Saturn is 5 58' Scorpio
his natal Vertex is 5 05' Scorpio
opposite our natal composite sun in 4 37' Taurus (and Mercury 6 39' Taurus)

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Event composite SATURN exactly opposing the composite sun-Mercury midpoint.

Did you suspect he would not have written back to you regardless of whether you asked him to or not, so you asked him not to, to prevent any sting of rejection? And is that too personal a question? It's just that I have done that kind of thing before.

Now, for this:

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In his event composite, we have a yod with
Mercury 10 19' and Pholus 11 00 Aqua as the apex (conjunct his natal Sun)
Moon 9 52 Cancer (conjunct his natal Moon)
NN 10 40' Virgo (conjunct his natal jupiter/mars and MY natal Moon - 10 56' Virgo!)

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That matches this:

"I told him all of my feelings in a message"

Well of course you did!!!

Mercury-Pholus at the apex on his sun, with two moons at the base.

So of course you did. You know what Pholus is about right? If not, please research it! It will explain so much here.

For starters:

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At times, the energy of Pholus feels like a pressure release, akin to shaking up a bottle of Pepsi on a hot day, and promptly opening it. It's just that the stuff keeps coming out. A genie coming out of a bottle is perhaps a better metaphor, but that, too, comes with the sense of materialization.

Pholus has a quality of opening the door to the infinite. Depending on the door, that may or may not be helpful, or seem helpful, but it is what it is and when Pholus has become active, it's necessary to get out of denial and work with the energy consciously.

Pholus has the property of release from situations, thus opening to new possibilities, and emerging into new states of existence. It is the Centaur of fast-moving changes, or rapid transformations, typically initiated by one's own action. Something as simple as curiosity or a chance encounter may start the chain of events.

One quality of Pholus experience is, "I would never have done that if I knew what I was getting into," sometimes with the added idea, "but I'm glad I did." A small gesture that leads to something large, a minor project that becomes one's life work, an experiment that takes on a life of its own, leading to many developments, all are properties of Pholus.

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Because it's Pholus at the apex with Mercury, on his sun, I think this marks the beginning of something...even if it's the beginning of the end. You'll look back and say, that was THE turning point.

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Now your question is, how was he affected by it? I think he was strongly affected.

Mercury-Pholus is in the 8H in the EVC, conjunct Uranus and quincunx the moon.
Depth of emotion plus discomfort. Shock (Uranus & Pholus both)...like he wasn't expecting this. Saturn is squaring Mercury and Uranus, that's the "shut up" energy there.

With the moon in Cancer in the first house, my guess is, he had an obvious emotional reaction. As if anyone standing there with him would see him distracted by a shift in emotion. Seems to have hit him straight to the core, since the moon is right on his natal moon.

The NN, apex of another yod, close to the IC, and on your moon...could have made him feel like you actually belonged there with him. Your moon fell in the 3H and perhaps he wanted to hear more from you? Yet Aries Chiron in the 10th is quincunx that NN...and Chiron opposes its dispositor, Mars in Libra...so perhaps he had mixed feelings, like bittersweet...some pain (possibly MARS-related pain, as if he wanted you there physically?) and some happiness, too (I say "happiness" based on the 9H sun & Venus.)

But, Aries Chiron opposing Mars...did you feel like he was just using you? Do you think he felt bad that his physical needs/desires/requests were being taken badly?

Jupiter conjunct JUNO in the fourth.
"I'm GONNA marry this girl someday..."??

Hehehe no, I have no idea, but that's what first comes to mind.

Because the concentration here is on the 8H and 9H, not the 7H, my *guess* (GUESS) is, he was processing this deeply, and some of it made him happy, but he understood not so much as a matter of partnership. His focus at that moment was on deeper things than just boyfriend-girlfriend issues.

posted February 19, 2016 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
I am not clear on what you have done.is this his natal and the moment?
is this an event chart for you, him and the moment ?and if not could you post a tri composite event chart.
todd

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It is an event composite between his natal and the moment.
The second chart is his natal alone.
Yes, I can post a multicomposite from my natal, his natal and the moment! Thank you very much for your help!!!

posted February 19, 2016 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Excellent I love how organized your information is...doesn't the meaning begin to spell itself out for you, when you match the numbers?

That matches this:

"I told him all of my feelings in a message"

Well of course you did!!!

Mercury-Pholus at the apex on his sun, with two moons at the base.

So of course you did. You know what Pholus is about right? If not, please research it! It will explain so much here.

For starters:
[QUOTE]At times, the energy of Pholus feels like a pressure release, akin to shaking up a bottle of Pepsi on a hot day, and promptly opening it. It's just that the stuff keeps coming out. A genie coming out of a bottle is perhaps a better metaphor, but that, too, comes with the sense of materialization.

Pholus has a quality of opening the door to the infinite. Depending on the door, that may or may not be helpful, or seem helpful, but it is what it is and when Pholus has become active, it's necessary to get out of denial and work with the energy consciously.

Pholus has the property of release from situations, thus opening to new possibilities, and emerging into new states of existence. It is the Centaur of fast-moving changes, or rapid transformations, typically initiated by one's own action. Something as simple as curiosity or a chance encounter may start the chain of events.

One quality of Pholus experience is, "I would never have done that if I knew what I was getting into," sometimes with the added idea, "but I'm glad I did." A small gesture that leads to something large, a minor project that becomes one's life work, an experiment that takes on a life of its own, leading to many developments, all are properties of Pholus.

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I think. My guess is the letter had a lot to do with 8H and Mars issues- intimacy, how it goes wrong, and how it goes right.[/QUOTE]

Oh Faith, this is you not being so good to interpret an event composite alone? LOL, it's the exactly opposite, wake up, you are brilliant!!! (I am saying this to you with all of my heart!)

posted February 19, 2016 04:16 PM            

Lucky guesses

posted February 19, 2016 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

"Excellent I love how organized your information is..."

Thank you, I am learning astrology alone, with the big help from lindaland, of course, so I try to keep the findings from my research organised in order to compare them when I become more knowledgable! I really think I found my true-everlasting passion in life : Astrology!!! (its not an exaggeration, I study harder than when I studied for my master degree, as I have possibly told you before! lol)

"doesn't the meaning begin to spell itself out for you, when you match the numbers?
That matches this:

I told him all of my feelings in a message"

Well of course you did!!!

Mercury-Pholus at the apex on his sun, with two moons at the base.

So of course you did. You know what Pholus is about right? If not, please research it! It will explain so much here. "

Yes, Pholus really caught my eye yesterday, although I have read the basics for its interpretation, but I haven't researched it a lot.
But, I think definitely has to do with the yesterday incident, as I found that in
MY event-composite is in 20 aqua exactly opposing my s/m midpoint!
Then I found that in our natal composite sits right on the Ascendant! This definitely has to mean something, am I correct? That the nature of the relationship itself was rather intense, like Pholus implies? I don't know :/
So then I read about it yesterday, but I always try to find more information

"For starters:
[QUOTE]At times, the energy of Pholus feels like a pressure release, akin to shaking up a bottle of Pepsi on a hot day, and promptly opening it. It's just that the stuff keeps coming out. A genie coming out of a bottle is perhaps a better metaphor, but that, too, comes with the sense of materialization."

Yes, I felt exactly like this yesterday, that's why I didn't really care for his answer, it was a very powerful urge, considering I have been suppressing a lot of my feelings for so long!

"Pholus has a quality of opening the door to the infinite. Depending on the door, that may or may not be helpful, or seem helpful, but it is what it is and when Pholus has become active, it's necessary to get out of denial and work with the energy consciously.

Pholus has the property of release from situations, thus opening to new possibilities, and emerging into new states of existence. It is the Centaur of fast-moving changes, or rapid transformations, typically initiated by one's own action. Something as simple as curiosity or a chance encounter may start the chain of events."

Yes, it definitely had these characteristics, I just did this confession, in order to transformate myself, to finally find the strength to move on, to “break the spell”, so to speak.

"One quality of Pholus experience is, "I would never have done that if I knew what I was getting into," sometimes with the added idea, "but I'm glad I did."

Yes, I definitely had second thoughts before sending my message, I certainly took a moment to think clearly, but I was perfectly sure that I wasn't going to regret it in the future, whatever the outcome (and his answer) might have been.

"Because it's Pholus at the apex with Mercury, on his sun, I think this marks the beginning of something...even if it's the beginning of the end. You'll look back and say, that was THE turning point. "

Yes, exactly that, its as if I was trying to bring the real end of it, like “breaking the spell”, as I mentioned, like to try to actually create myself the end of it. For example, I suspect that he is really thrilled by the chase, by being not sure for the other person, as he is very insecure himself, so by telling him all of my feelings, he would then be sure of my feelings, so the chase will be over at last. Do you know what I mean or am I just crazy? lol
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"Now your question is, how was he affected by it? I think he was strongly affected.

Mercury-Pholus is in the 8H in the EVC, conjunct Uranus and quincunx the moon.
Depth of emotion plus discomfort. Shock (Uranus & Pholus both)...like he wasn't expecting this. Saturn is squaring Mercury and Uranus, that's the "shut up" energy there. "

Yes, I can definitely think of him being in shock and in discomfort!!! I really wish I could have seen only his face from an angle yesterday! LOL

"With the moon in Cancer in the first house, my guess is, he had an obvious emotional reaction. As if anyone standing there with him would see him distracted by a shift in emotion. Seems to have hit him straight to the core, since the moon is right on his natal moon.

I may need your help here. I pulled this chart when I send him the message, but he actually read it all later. The moon between these two charts doesn't change in degree, but only in house. The ascendant is changed, from 2 cancer to 16 cancer.
So, this affects the moon, which is in 12th house. Is this a bad thing????

"The NN, apex of another yod, close to the IC, and on your moon...could have made him feel like you actually belonged there with him. Your moon fell in the 3H and perhaps he wanted to hear more from you? Yet Aries Chiron in the 10th is quincunx that NN...and Chiron opposes its dispositor, Mars in Libra...so perhaps he had mixed feelings, like bittersweet...some pain (possibly MARS-related pain, as if he wanted you there physically?) and some happiness, too (I say "happiness" based on the 9H sun & Venus.)

So, we have a problem here, considering I pulled a chart for earlier.
Please, could you take one last look to the new chart with the correct time? The sun goes to the 8th house, so...end ???

"But, Aries Chiron opposing Mars...did you feel like he was just using you? Do you think he felt bad that his physical needs/desires/requests were being taken badly?

Jupiter conjunct JUNO in the fourth.
"I'm GONNA marry this girl someday..."??

Hehehe no, I have no idea, but that's what first comes to mind.

Because the concentration here is on the 8H and 9H, not the 7H, my *guess* (GUESS) is, he was processing this deeply, and some of it made him happy, but he understood not so much as a matter of partnership. His focus at that moment was on deeper things than just boyfriend-girlfriend issues.

I think. My guess is the letter had a lot to do with 8H and Mars issues- intimacy, how it goes wrong, and how it goes right.

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posted February 19, 2016 05:00 PM            

The correct event-compo

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event compo sun in 9th house
natal sun in 9th house

event compo jupiter - mars - node in 4th house
natal jupiter - mars - node in 4th house

event compo neptune in 7th
natal neptune in 7th

event compo moon in 1st
natal moon in 2nd, close enough

event compo asc in 2 cancer
natal asc 10 gem, again pretty close

But instead, when he actually read it, we' ve got :

event compo sun/merc in 8th
natal sun/merc in 9th

event compo moon in 12th
natal moon in 2nd,
not so close as in the 1st event compo (moment of sending)

event compo jupiter-node in 3rd, instead of 4th
natal jupiter-node in 4th

Buuuut, we now got
event saturn - pluto in 5th
natal saturn - pluto in 5th

posted February 19, 2016 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
This is the multi-composite with the moment, it looks a bit stressful to me, lol!
But there are important connections to both natals, meaning
the multi-compo asc/dsc is on my natal ic/mc axis
and
the multi-compo mc/ic is on his natal mc/ic axis
I don't know if this is supposed to happen or it means anything

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the tri composite shows the mars/venus midpoint conjunct to Uranus and eros with these square to the sun. wow very immediate and intense physical and emotional attraction. Uranus though is associated with comet like affairs. then the eros/psyche midpoint is square to Jupiter, so you need to get a grip because this pattern shows you are already so infatuated that you are thinking of the future with him.
mars is conjunct to juno so he act as if there could be significant relationship in store.
the Venus/mercury conjunction brings a excellent mind and emotional connection and always shows laughter and happiness when together.

pluto square the node with pluto on the descendant can show a past life experience but it can also show there is a strong selfishness here, in spite of the magical emotional connection

hmmm the ac/ic conjunctions are very interesting. that would give the relationship a greater cohesion which may be able to ameliorate some of the selfishness of the pluto aspect.

posted February 19, 2016 06:03 PM            

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His event composite Saturn is 5 58' Scorpio
his natal Vertex is 5 05' Scorpio
opposite our natal composite sun in 4 37'

you are right on the spot again!!

posted February 19, 2016 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
the tri composite shows the mars/venus midpoint conjunct to Uranus and eros with these square to the sun. wow very immediate and intense physical and emotional attraction. Uranus though is associated with comet like affairs. then the eros/psyche midpoint is square to Jupiter, so you need to get a grip because this pattern shows you are already so infatuated that you are thinking of the future with him.
mars is conjunct to juno so he act as if there could be significant relationship in store.
the Venus/mercury conjunction brings a excellent mind and emotional connection and always shows laughter and happiness when together.

pluto square the node with pluto on the descendant can show a past life experience but it can also show there is a strong selfishness here, in spite of the magical emotional connection

hmmm the ac/ic conjunctions are very interesting. that would give the relationship a greater cohesion which may be able to ameliorate some of the selfishness of the pluto aspect.

todd

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Thank you very much Todd, you are so spot on here, but I didn't quite understand what I should keep from all these, sorry :/

posted February 19, 2016 06:21 PM            

Well actually I think you shut him up, and it might feel uncomfortable,confusing to him. Its like you put a strong stimulus out there (the message) but at the same time forbid him to respond. That is so Mercury-Uranus-Saturn. lol

posted February 19, 2016 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Thank you very much Todd, you are so spot on here, but maybe could you tell me what I am supposed to think about the outcome here? This multicomposite is between my natal, his natal and the moment I told him all of my feelings after 1,5 year of us getting involved.
I didn't quite understand what I should keep from all these, sorry :/

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you have to keep in mind that a moment composite adds the varigies of the current astrological moment, so referring to the original composite might give a clear longterm view

posted February 19, 2016 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think FAith did a fabulous job here, nothing more to add for me really.
I also noticed the Mercury-Uranus-combo squared by Saturn. A real stop-and-go energy on communication. A total surprisging sudden shocking message for him, but while the Uranus usually would push for action, Saturn keeps him in check (though I actually have also seen Saturn bringing manifestation of something, yet I always tend to see him more like a shutting-up-energy usually, even though not always. lol)

Well actually I think you shut him up, and it might feel uncomfortable,confusing to him. Its like you put a strong stimulus out there (the message) but at the same time forbid him to respond. That is so Mercury-Uranus-Saturn. lol

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Thank you for taking a look into it Ceri!!! Really appreciate it!
This merc-uranus-saturn as you describe it is so fitting lol
Just because I find a little difference between the moment I sent the message and the moment he read it, do you think the change of houses for some planets that I mentioned above change a lot in the interpretation?
thanks very much!!

posted February 19, 2016 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
you have to keep in mind that a moment composite adds the varigies of the current astrological moment, so referring to the original composite might give a clear longterm view

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:tumbsup:

I very much agree with that. Well you know I think event-composites can be very telling, but that`S just that, they are about events, which are in nature fleeting (though some may have an impact that will have longer lasting consequences of course).

posted February 19, 2016 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
you have to keep in mind that a moment composite adds the varigies of the current astrological moment, so referring to the original composite might give a clear longterm view

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Yes, if I provide you with the connections to the natal composite would you mind taking a look? Thanks!

posted February 19, 2016 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
you have to keep in mind that a moment composite adds the various energies of the current astrological moment, so referring to the original composite might give a clear longterm view

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posted February 19, 2016 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:

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Maybe you told me again because that's what I should keep in mind, lol, but in case you are interested

The major link between multi-compo and natal compo is

multi compo lilith 5 18- vertex 5 02' scorpio conjunction
ON his natal vertex 5 05 scorpio
and opposite our natal compo sun 4 37 taurus